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NCAA Tournaments - A look back

Cali_Nittany

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So while we wait for another Penn State team title, I thought this would be a good opportunity to take a look back before the Cael Era of wrestling. For this post, I'm reviewing the 1988 tournament.

1988 was the 2nd year after Iowa and Dan Gable's incredible run of nine straight championships from 1978 to 1986. (Iowa State put an end to the streak in 1987.) The tournament was held at Iowa State with the Outstanding Wrestler award going to Scott Turner of North Carolina after his upset of Iowa State's returning national champion at 150, Tim Krieger.

In the charts below, you'll see:
>the top 5 teams in 1988 with their scores
>the top 5 teams if the tournament was scored using today's point system
>the expected advancement and placement points for each team in 1988

The major differences in scoring between now and then is that bonus points are doubled, 3rd through 8th placements are higher and advancing wrestlers in brackets with pigtails (who aren't in the pigtail) no longer receive the extra 1 or .5 advancement points.

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Oklahoma State was the favorite going into the tournament with 9 qualifying wrestlers and 8 that were seeded in the top 8. Arizona State outperformed their seeding overall, especially with #8 Gressley finishing 3rd. Iowa only qualified 6 wrestlers but also outperformed overall on the strength of #7 Melchiore placing 2nd. What really hurt Oklahoma State's title aspirations was #2 Vince Silva getting upset in the first round 8-6 by Navy's Scott Schliecher. Unfortunately for Silva, Schliecher lost the next round and was not pulled back into consolations. The NCAAs at that time had a different consolation structure where losers in the first round would only be able to wrestle again if the winner of the first round match advanced to the quarterfinals.

For Penn State, the highlight was Jim Martin's upset of Iowa's Brad Penrith in the 126 final. As a team, Penn State did outperform expectations. Notably, 10th seed Andy Voit placed 5th at 190. His path to AA worked in his favor as the 2 and 7 seeds were upset on his side of the bracket.

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So while we wait for another Penn State team title, I thought this would be a good opportunity to take a look back before the Cael Era of wrestling. For this post, I'm reviewing the 1988 tournament.

1988 was the 2nd year after Iowa and Dan Gable's incredible run of nine straight championships from 1978 to 1986. (Iowa State put an end to the streak in 1987.) The tournament was held in Iowa with the Outstanding Wrestler award going to Scott Turner of North Carolina after his upset of Iowa State's returning national champion at 150, Tim Krieger.

In the charts below, you'll see:
>the top 5 teams in 1988 with their scores
>the top 5 teams if the tournament was scored using today's point system
>the expected advancement and placement points for each team in 1988

The major differences in scoring between now and then is that bonus points are doubled, 3rd through 8th placements are higher and advancing wrestlers in brackets with pigtails (who aren't in the pigtail) no longer receive the extra 1 or .5 advancement points.

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Oklahoma State was the clear favorite going into the tournament with 9 qualifying wrestlers and 8 that were seeded in the top 8. Arizona State outperformed their seeding overall, especially with #8 Gressley finishing 3rd. Iowa only qualified 6 wrestlers but also outperformed overall on the strength of #7 Melchiore placing 2nd. What really hurt Oklahoma State's title aspirations was #2 Vince Silva getting upset in the first round 8-6 by Navy's Scott Schliecher. Unfortunately for Silva, Schliecher lost the next round and was not pulled back into consolations. The NCAAs at that time had a different consolation structure where losers in the first round would only be able to wrestle again if the winner of the first round match advanced to the quarterfinals.

For Penn State, the highlight was Jim Martin's upset of Iowa's Brad Penrith in the 126 final. As a team, Penn State did outperform expectations. Notably, 10th seed Andy Voit placed 5th at 190. His path to AA worked in his favor as the 2 and 7 seeds were upset on his side of the bracket.

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Looks like Iowa had a wild and crazy 118 lber
 
Here is the Martin v. Penrith final. The first video is periods one and two and the second video is the third period:

Penrith quit at the end. More than enough time after the tilt to escape but not even trying. Jim broke him.

Including the Rec Hall dual, Jim made 2 different Gable wrestlers quit, one in the national finals.
 
For this post, I'm reviewing the 1987 tournament. Iowa State ended the Hawkeyes 9 year run of dominance from 1978 to 1986. The tournament was held in Maryland with the Outstanding Wrester award going to John Smith of Oklahoma. Smith had an impressive run with a Fall, 2 Tech Falls, a Major Decision and a Superior Decision in the final. (This was the last season of Superior Decisions - a win by 12 to 14 points.)

In the chart below, you'll see:
>the top 4 teams in 1987 with their scores
>the top 4 teams if the tournament was scored using today's point system
>the expected advancement and placement points for each team in 1987
(Bloomsburg finished a distant 5th with 47.25 points.)

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Based off of seeding, Iowa was the frontrunner again going into the tournament. The Hawkeyes had mixed results with a couple of seeded wrestlers not placing and a couple of wrestlers outperforming their seeds. Overall, finishing a little below expected when considering bonus points.

What made the difference with Iowa State winning is that they wrestled far above expectations. They had 4 champions with only one being the top seed. In addition, Jeff Gibbons placed 3rd from the 10 seed. In total, they had 6 wrestlers placing in the top 3 with every seeded wrestler meeting or beating their seed.

Penn State had their best pre-Cael tournament ever in terms of scoring. Penn State went into the tournament with 7 wrestlers seeded in the top 7 and mostly met or exceeded expectations with 8 wrestlers achieving All-American status including unseeded Joe Hadge finishing 6th. Using today's scoring, they would've had 110.5 points without even having a champion.


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