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Yea, crazy finish. They reversed a 2 point near fall call.
 
Chad Red gifted a Match by the official

Duncan went from being up 4-0 with 22 seconds left to being up 1-0 with 44 seconds left. I was very surprised the officials overturned the near fall for Duncan. There wasn’t anything to my eye to justify it. Looked like a 2 and a half count.

I also don’t like returning to the point in the match where the brick was thrown, but I’m not sure what the alternative is there.
 
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Tim Johnson just said that the outstanding performance of the first half of wrestling was .... drum roll ... the challenge brick (that Manning threw)
 
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Fix looks really good at 133. Pinned Madigral. It might be his weight to lose. He's got a great top game with turns—probably much better than DeSanto, RBY and Micic.
 
I agree about being spoiled at PSU but the one that got away that hurts the most is Spencer. Nice to start every match 6-0. When you watched him in the PIAA tournament you knew he was a generational talent.
Not yet. While it might happen this year, Lee has not yet cost us a team title.

Therefore, the one that hurts the most is Snyder.
 
Not yet. While it might happen this year, Lee has not yet cost us a team title.

Therefore, the one that hurts the most is Snyder.
When Snyder was recruited, did anyone really expect him to become a heavyweight? He wrestled at 197 his first college season, and IIRC that was his projected weight class throughout college. And at the time PSU had McIntosh at 197. In fact McIntosh beat Snyder at the 2015 B1G tournament.

Edit - The only year PSU did not win a team title in Snyder's tenure at tOSU was 2015. In that tournament PSU finished 6th, 34.5 points behind winner tOSU. At 197, McIntosh finished in 3rd place, while Snyder took 2nd. If Snyder wrestled for PSU in 2014/15, he wasn't going to push PSU into position for a team title. So not sure I buy that losing out on Snyder cost PSU a team title, though he would have looked great in the blue & white.
 
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When Snyder was recruited, did anyone really expect him to become a heavyweight? He wrestled at 197 his first college season, and IIRC that was his projected weight class throughout college. And at the time PSU had McIntosh at 197.
Cael did. One of the reasons Snyder chose Ohio State was because he was dead set on being a 197, and Cael told him he'd be a HWT. Turns out Cael was right.

Snyder's projected college weight was a subject of much debate at the time. He was a HS 220 for all 4 years. Basically, it boiled down to Snyder saying publicly (while in HS) that he would be a 197, some people believed him, others didn't.
 
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When Snyder was recruited, did anyone really expect him to become a heavyweight? He wrestled at 197 his first college season, and IIRC that was his projected weight class throughout college. And at the time PSU had McIntosh at 197. In fact McIntosh beat Snyder at the 2015 B1G tournament.

Edit - The only year PSU did not win a team title in Snyder's tenure at tOSU was 2015. In that tournament PSU finished 6th, 34.5 points behind winner tOSU. At 197, McIntosh finished in 3rd place, while Snyder took 2nd. If Snyder wrestled for PSU in 2014/15, he wasn't going to push PSU into position for a team title. So not sure I buy that losing out on Snyder cost PSU a team title, though he would have looked great in the blue & white.
If PSU had landed Snyder, it's entirely possible that Snyder starts at HWT over Lawson, and Zain, Nico, and Jason all don't shirt. PSU finished 34.5 pts behind Ohio State, and 18 of those were Snyder.

Regardless, Ohio State almost certainly would not have won the team title -- Snyder's points were the exact margin of victory over Iowa.
 
If PSU had landed Snyder, it's entirely possible that Snyder starts at HWT over Lawson, and Zain, Nico, and Jason all don't shirt. PSU finished 34.5 pts behind Ohio State, and 18 of those were Snyder.

Regardless, Ohio State almost certainly would not have won the team title -- Snyder's points were the exact margin of victory over Iowa.

Everything happens for a reason. Zain/Nolf's career go differently without a redshirt. Nico might never get his title.
 
If PSU had landed Snyder, it's entirely possible that Snyder starts at HWT over Lawson, and Zain, Nico, and Jason all don't shirt. PSU finished 34.5 pts behind Ohio State, and 18 of those were Snyder.

Regardless, Ohio State almost certainly would not have won the team title -- Snyder's points were the exact margin of victory over Iowa.
So what you're saying is maybe The OSU never wears robes without Snyder?:cool:
 
Another random though about Snyder since we're playing the what if game ... we likely could have gotten Joey McKenna as a result (heard his relationship with Snyder was why he transferred) and Kerkvliet likely comes here out of high school instead of a mid year transfer (since training with Kyle is one of Greg's priorities and who can blame him?)

If Cael got fancy with redshirting (you know he's good at that), we could in theory have had McKenna as our 149 last year and Kerkvliet as our heavy (since he'd be eligible).
 
Gavin still could have come to PSU. He just had to walk on and beat out Beard for the starting spot. He chose tOSU and the rest is history .....still in the making.
Ate you so sure about that?

I've heard of at least one other wrestler in a similar situation -- multiple state champ, top 2 nationally at his weight, trained at NLWC -- and was told no room at the inn. (And I'm not talking about Haines.)

Regardless, it's extremely easy for fans to say "he could've walked on and earned his spot." In reality when did that last happen -- Aaron Anspach?

When the coach lands another top guy at your weight in your year, that ship has sailed.
 
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