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..and this has to be one of the funniest videos I've ever seen. To the officer asks Scheffler if he's been drinking. Scheff responds by saying he doesn't typically drink when he has an 8 am tee time. The officer then says "I assume you are pretty good if you are on the PGA tour." It is Scottie Feaken Scheffler!!! At that point, he had already won the Arnold Palmer, The Players Championship, The Masters, and the week before, the RBC Heritage.


 
To be honest, outside of golf fanatics, I don’t think many people would recognize a golfer if they ran into them on the street.
probably true. On the other hand, you small community is hosting the PGA Championship (one of four annual majors), you've volunteered/paid to direct traffic to that event and hours after arresting the number one player in the world you don't know who he is?

Sorry, I can't wrap my head around that.
 
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probably true. On the other hand, you small community is hosting the PGA Championship (one of four annual majors), you've volunteered/paid to direct traffic to that event and hours after arresting the number one player in the world you don't know who he is?

Sorry, I can't wrap my head around that.
Fair point, but there was a little more to the story, the cops weren't working the event per se, they were there because tragically a bus had killed a citizen. So scheffler sees the cops and assumes they are working the event, so he flashes his badge, but these cops weren't there to check pga credentials but rather to cordon off the crime scene.
 
Fair point, but there was a little more to the story, the cops weren't working the event per se, they were there because tragically a bus had killed a citizen. So scheffler sees the cops and assumes they are working the event, so he flashes his badge, but these cops weren't there to check pga credentials but rather to cordon off the crime scene.
the golf course is about 25 minutes east of Louisville KY. This was the PGA Championship, a major. Years of planning and training went into this event. I get that there was an accident but this was a trained police officer, in general. He was also trained and educated on the event. How do I know this? The event dominated that city for a month.

the fact that he, in fact "they", didn't know who Scottie S was is incredibly stupid. Second, if you followed the event, you know that the officer totally overreacted. Scheffler was following other players going onto the berm and getting around the accident to make an 8 am tee time for a nationally televised event. Lights are flashing, it is rainy, and it is hard to see and hear. I get that. At the end of the day, some discretion needs to be used in this kind of situation by the officer. You don't arrest and frog march, book, and detain in jail the top player in the world because he couldn't hear the officer yelling at him to stop. Once the officer realized he was dealing with a professional golfer who was totally apologetic and confused, he should have let him go. This is why people hate police officers. Use your freaking brain.
 
the golf course is about 25 minutes east of Louisville KY. This was the PGA Championship, a major. Years of planning and training went into this event. I get that there was an accident but this was a trained police officer, in general. He was also trained and educated on the event. How do I know this? The event dominated that city for a month.

the fact that he, in fact "they", didn't know who Scottie S was is incredibly stupid. Second, if you followed the event, you know that the officer totally overreacted. Scheffler was following other players going onto the berm and getting around the accident to make an 8 am tee time for a nationally televised event. Lights are flashing, it is rainy, and it is hard to see and hear. I get that. At the end of the day, some discretion needs to be used in this kind of situation by the officer. You don't arrest and frog march, book, and detain in jail the top player in the world because he couldn't hear the officer yelling at him to stop. Once the officer realized he was dealing with a professional golfer who was totally apologetic and confused, he should have let him go. This is why people hate police officers. Use your freaking brain.
I agree he should have known, was just adding some context to help explain the unexplainable. In no way am I condoning the officers reaction and ignorance.
 
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I agree he should have known, was just adding some context to help explain the unexplainable. In no way am I condoning the officers reaction and ignorance.
I am willing to bet that there were some "interesting" conversations between the police, city and PGA officials. This course is on a rotation for PGA events like the PGA and US Open. I am willing to bet that the city officials were clearly told that they would never host another tour event if Scottie wasn't released and charges dropped ASAP. Knowing some judges, I'll bet they pushed back as they don't like having their authority usurped. For Scheffler, he shot a 71 after getting out of jail, hastily warming up and playing 18 holes.

he ended the tournament with these rounds: 66, 71, 65, 68. This was -13. Xander won with -21. Had Scottie played the second round at 66, he'd have ended up 18 under par. And who knows what would have happened if he was in contention for the final round?
 
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Not everyone is a golf fan that knows the players. Maybe they find it a boring sport. I know I do.
Well maybe. But this guy and police force weren't just "fans". They were there to police one of the biggest sporting events in the nation as a community that is golf-centered. Millions of dollars were pouring into the community as a result of that event. This was the club's fourth major along with hosting the 2008 Ryder Cup.

My point is, if they didn't know, they should have known. It's like going to Nashville and not knowing who Dolly Parton is.
 
Forgive my silly rant, which is not directed at the OP, but I hate the recent change in how the word "drop" is used in our language. In my view, if Netflix is "dropping" a show, that should mean they are no longer offering it. But now, "dropping" means they are going to start offering it. As if they will drop it into our living rooms from above. Does anyone else find this confusing? And yes, I know this is a "first world problem." 😆
 
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Forgive my silly rant, which is not directed at the OP, but I hate the recent change in how the word "drop" is used in our language. In my view, if Netflix is "dropping" a show, that should mean they are no longer offering it. But now, "dropping" means they are going to start offering it. As if they will drop it into our living rooms from above. Does anyone else find this confusing? And yes, I know this is a "first world problem." 😆
great point. LIke using the words bad (good) or dope (good).

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Well maybe. But this guy and police force weren't just "fans". They were there to police one of the biggest sporting events in the nation as a community that is golf-centered. Millions of dollars were pouring into the community as a result of that event. This was the club's fourth major along with hosting the 2008 Ryder Cup.

My point is, if they didn't know, they should have known. It's like going to Nashville and not knowing who Dolly Parton is.
Who could have guessed that pro golfers and their fans would be so entitled that rhey would think every small town cop ought to know this nimrod when he drives around a blockade put in place to protect the public and emergency responders after a FATAL ACCIDENT.

Suppose that rather than a traffic fatality, there was an active shooter. Should he still get a pass for blowing off a blockade?

The cop was no doubt ORDERED to keep people out. Not, "...except Scottie." EVERYBODY.

Did he stop and ask somebody? Plus, I want to see the bodycam video. I am sure, if he spoke to the cops, he was angry. There will never be a day when the death of one person at the golf course is less important than your f*cking tee time.
 
Who could have guessed that pro golfers and their fans would be so entitled that rhey would think every small town cop ought to know this nimrod when he drives around a blockade put in place to protect the public and emergency responders after a FATAL ACCIDENT.

Suppose that rather than a traffic fatality, there was an active shooter. Should he still get a pass for blowing off a blockade?

The cop was no doubt ORDERED to keep people out. Not, "...except Scottie." EVERYBODY.

Did he stop and ask somebody? Plus, I want to see the bodycam video. I am sure, if he spoke to the cops, he was angry. There will never be a day when the death of one person at the golf course is less important than your f*cking tee time.
He was following the golfer in front of him who had not been stopped
 
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Forgive my silly rant, which is not directed at the OP, but I hate the recent change in how the word "drop" is used in our language. In my view, if Netflix is "dropping" a show, that should mean they are no longer offering it. But now, "dropping" means they are going to start offering it. As if they will drop it into our living rooms from above. Does anyone else find this confusing? And yes, I know this is a "first world problem." 😆
Not to derail the OP's thread topic but I remember when if you misplayed a routine ground ball that led to your team losing the WS (Bill Buckner) or calling a TO in the NCAA Final Four when your team did not have one (Chris Weber) that you were considered the 'goat'.

Slightly different meaning than the greatest of all time......
 
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Who could have guessed that pro golfers and their fans would be so entitled that rhey would think every small town cop ought to know this nimrod when he drives around a blockade put in place to protect the public and emergency responders after a FATAL ACCIDENT.

Suppose that rather than a traffic fatality, there was an active shooter. Should he still get a pass for blowing off a blockade?

The cop was no doubt ORDERED to keep people out. Not, "...except Scottie." EVERYBODY.

Did he stop and ask somebody? Plus, I want to see the bodycam video. I am sure, if he spoke to the cops, he was angry. There will never be a day when the death of one person at the golf course is less important than your f*cking tee time.
Back the Blue - except when we want to not Back the Blue
 
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My wife is a defense attorney. I love the police, but they are not infallible. That is why we have a justice system. I am not prejudice for or against. I look at the facts of the case and call it as I see it. In this case, the charges were dropped with prejudice. In other words, they can’t be reinstated. That tells you all you need to know. I’d suggest you watch the episode. Scottie is considered one of the nicest guys on the tour.
 
I read it. Did not see the part where witnesses confirmed tha he was following another car. I did not say the police are infallible or perfect. I am a plaintiff's lawyer. I have SUED the police. Find me the evidence for your claim. I am not speaking to the merits of the criminal case, I am asking for evidence that there was a guy in front of him who did the same thing, even though, of course, someone else doing the wrong thing, and endangering others, gives you no right to do it.

Where does your citation say he was following another golfer?
 
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I read it. Did not see the part where witnesses confirmed tha he was following another car. I did not say the police are infallible or perfect. I am a plaintiff's lawyer. I have SUED the police. Find me the evidence for your claim. I am not speaking to the merits of the criminal case, I am asking for evidence that there was a guy in front of him who did the same thing, even though, of course, someone else doing the wrong thing, and endangering others, gives you no right to do it.

Wher does your citation say he was following another golfer?
Do your own research. There are millions of articles written and I am not going to spend my Saturday morning doing your research. At the time, players said they had gone around the accident and Scottie said that too. That he was simply following those in front of him.

You can choose to believe me or not. I don’t care.

That fact, or not, is immaterial. The prosecutor divided to drop charges based on the totality of the situation. Full stop.
 
Do your own research. There are millions of articles written and I am not going to spend my Saturday morning doing your research. At the time, players said they had gone around the accident and Scottie said that too. That he was simply following those in front of him.

You can choose to believe me or not. I don’t care.

That fact, or not, is immaterial. The prosecutor divided to drop charges based on the totality of the situation. Full stop.
So, when I asked for a cite, you gave me a non-cite. Got it. You could have just said you did not have a cite. Lol
 
You "don't care" so much you lied about having a cite when you did not have a cite. Got it.
I cited an overview of the situation. If you want to see if the officers finger nails were manicured, have at it. At the time, players said they were on the berm going around the accident and Scottie followed them. The officer was reprimanded for not having his body cam on. If your aren’t lying about your legal experience, you’d know this is what officers claim when the video didn’t match their verbal claims.
 
I cited an overview of the situation. If you want to see if the officers finger nails were manicured, have at it. At the time, players said they were on the berm going around the accident and Scottie followed them. The officer was reprimanded for not having his body cam on. If your aren’t lying about your legal experience, you’d know this is what officers claim when the video didn’t match their verbal claims.
So you have a recollection of a verbal claim you read. That is the answer you could've given to "you got a cite for that?" It is not the answer you gave, though. Lol
 
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I'm not interested enough to research what actually happened, but if I was I wouldn't take Netflix's word for it. Netflix has exactly one goal and that is to get as many people to view the possible, regardless of the truth. They want to make sure they don't get sued, but beyond that, anything goes.

I think that to see the truth we should as often as possible go to the source material. I remember a year or so ago Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill had an incident with the police and various media were trying to give this and that take on it. Meanwhile, all the raw body cam video was out there. Judge for yourself. Don't trust a mediator, especially when it's a giant corporation.

And I don't think a cop should be expected to recognize Scottie Scheffler. Most people don't even watch the Super Bowl, much less golf. Take a screen shot of Scheffler and go out on the street and ask passersby by who it is. I bet 90% won't know.

And I don't care if it's Tom Brady or Lebron James or Donald Trump. The police should treat everyone the same. They shouldn't give them grief because they're a big celebrity, but they also shouldn't kiss their rear end.
 
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I'm not interested enough to research what actually happened, but if I was I wouldn't take Netflix's word for it. Netflix has exactly one goal and that is to get as many people to view the possible, regardless of the truth. They want to make sure they don't get sued, but beyond that, anything goes.

I think that to see the truth we should as often as possible go to the source material. I remember a year or so ago Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill had an incident with the police and various media were trying to give this and that take on it. Meanwhile, all the raw body cam video was out there. Judge for yourself. Don't trust a mediator, especially when it's a giant corporation.

And I don't think a cop should be expected to recognize Scottie Scheffler. Most people don't even watch the Super Bowl, much less golf. Take a screen shot of Scheffler and go out on the street and ask passersby by who it is. I bet 90% won't know.

And I don't care if it's Tom Brady or Lebron James or Donald Trump. The police should treat everyone the same. They shouldn't give them grief because they're a big celebrity, but they also shouldn't kiss their rear end.
Arguably they did both in this case, in the order you listed it.😎
 
So you have a recollection of a verbal claim you read. That is the answer you could've given to "you got a cite for that?" It is not the answer you gave, though. Lol
The case was dropped with prejudice. I posted an article to show that. It also showed the preponderance of evidence that the officer a) didn’t know what was going on and b) that Scottie wasn’t guilty. Bring that I don’t ask you to do my work. Do your own

lol
 
The case was dropped with prejudice. I posted an article to show that. It also showed the preponderance of evidence that the officer a) didn’t know what was going on and b) that Scottie wasn’t guilty. Bring that I don’t ask you to do my work. Do your own

lol
So if you ask me a question, it is okay to pretend I answered it when I did not. Ok. Just need a record of the posting rules you employ.
 
Why are you asking me to do your work?
Oh no. I am saying you should stop lying. You put up a cite tha t was not a cite. Misleading at best. I will treat what you said about follwing another golfer as a lie. The truthful answer to my question was " no."
 
Oh no. I am saying you should stop lying. You put up a cite tha t was not a cite. Misleading at best. I will treat what you said about follwing another golfer as a lie. The truthful answer to my question was " no."
You know what, I apologize. I had a moment to reread the thread and you made no accusations just asking. Scottie said he was following a truck, probably a golfer, in front of him. Other golfers said that they go around, as they often do in any traffic jam.

I am not going to look for it. I did two google searches and came up with thousands of articles and am not going to take the time to find it. But I recall it, not that this means anything. As I noted, the charges were dropped with prejudice and the officer was reprimanded.
 
You know what, I apologize. I had a moment to reread the thread and you made no accusations just asking. Scottie said he was following a truck, probably a golfer, in front of him. Other golfers said that they go around, as they often do in any traffic jam.

I am not going to look for it. I did two google searches and came up with thousands of articles and am not going to take the time to find it. But I recall it, not that this means anything. As I noted, the charges were dropped with prejudice and the officer was reprimanded.
Fair.
 
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