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New assistan athletics director added today

all those AD's and we continue to be dreadful in baseball...mens basketball has no resources behind it...sucks
 
If someone told you that they ALREADY had an AAD in charge of Development (ie, Soliciting Funds from donors) and that this new position was in ADDITION to that guy.......

Would anyone believe it?


Although I am sure that creating this new position is a mandate being forced upon Sandy Baby from the "higher ups".
She would never be so imprudent with the finances. :)

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Current AD/AAD head count? 31 (as of 3pm...so that may be out of date)
 
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Since much of the annual giving is done by donors who routinely contribute every year, it's hard to figure out what someone in this new position would actually do. Open envelopes and deposit checks? Tough job when you consider most donations are completed online. Assistant AD in charge of watching grass grow makes only slightly less sense. I'm sure there's already an Assistant AD in charge of schmoozing and soliciting large donations but the NLC takes care of most annual donations.
 
If Penn State fully funds (to the NCAA maximum) every sport on campus....I believe the number of ATHLETES maxes out at 364. (thereabouts anyway)

The number of Athletic Department EMPLOYEES is now 409
(I shit you not, how "ironical" is that).


Just about double what it was in JVP's last year.


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If Penn State fully funds (to the NCAA maximum) every sport on campus....I believe the number of ATHLETES maxes out at 364. (thereabouts anyway)

The number of Athletic Department EMPLOYEES is now 409
(I shit you not, how "ironical" is that).


Just about double what it was in JVP's last year.


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Given that there are 31 sports, if each team had only 10 members, that would be 310 right there. We know football alone has 85 just on scholarship. Basketball has what, 14? Wrestling certainly has more than 10. In fact, what teams only have 10 athletes? But don't let the facts get in the way of your outrage. LOL

Now, maybe you meant scholarships, but in many sports, as I'm sure you know, they don't give out full rides. There could be 10 scholarships for 20-25 team members.

For the record, there are about 800 student athletes in varsity sports at Penn State. Backing out football, that's low/mid 20's per team, which sounds about right.

If you count coaches, admins for coaches and the sports medicine/performance enhancement staff, and Morgan Academic Center, that's about 205 right there.
 
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But we have a World Class conference room to accommodate the AD staff meetings.

Seriously.


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Now Barry, there are only 10 seats at the table. That's not enough for all those assistant AD's.
 
Given that there are 31 sports, if each team had only 10 members, that would be 310 right there. We know football alone has 85 just on scholarship. Basketball has what, 14? Wrestling certainly has more than 10. In fact, what teams only have 10 athletes? But don't let the facts get in the way of your outrage. LOL

Now, maybe you meant scholarships, but in many sports, as I'm sure you know, they don't give out full rides. There could be 10 scholarships for 20-25 team members.

For the record, there are about 800 student athletes in varsity sports at Penn State. Backing out football, that's low/mid 20's per team, which sounds about right.

I'd be curious where you got the 409 figure. Did you count all the part time program and popcorn sellers? Where's a list of these positions?


What's the difference? The new AAD will have nothing to do with any of the sports.
 
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Now Barry, there are only 10 seats at the table. That's not enough for all those assistant AD's.

Then Screwface will have to hire at least three new AADs: one in charge of conference room scheduling; one to study the viability of building another conference room or six; and one to supervise the previous two positions. DUMBSHIT.
 
Given that there are 31 sports, if each team had only 10 members, that would be 310 right there. We know football alone has 85 just on scholarship. Basketball has what, 14? Wrestling certainly has more than 10. In fact, what teams only have 10 athletes? But don't let the facts get in the way of your outrage. LOL

Now, maybe you meant scholarships, but in many sports, as I'm sure you know, they don't give out full rides. There could be 10 scholarships for 20-25 team members.

For the record, there are about 800 student athletes in varsity sports at Penn State. Backing out football, that's low/mid 20's per team, which sounds about right.

If you count coaches, admins for coaches and the sports medicine/performance enhancement staff, and Morgan Academic Center, that's about 205 right there.
Scholarship athletes (ergo "fully funded"), you stupid sycophant asswipe.

As if it matters.....

The head count has doubled - - - which is the relevant point - - - no matter which screw-faced way you want to shuck and jive.

Go lick a bidet....... clown.

You're pathetic


Ciao
 
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Scholarship athletes (ergo "fully funded"), you stupid sycophant asswipe.

As if it matters.....

The head count has doubled no matter which screw-faced way you want to look at it

Go lick a bidet....... clown.

You're pathetic


Ciao
Now now... I know language isn't your strong suit. But please try to choose the correct words to make your point. Words matter!

There may be only 364 full scholarship equivalents offered, but many of those who receive them are not full rides and get partials. So there are about 800 athletes that need attended to, which is the real point, no?

Given that we haven't greatly expanded the coaching staffs, and maybe marginally increased the academic staff and sports medicine/athletic trainers, and that those account for half of the employees, if we've doubled the number of employees, then Curley must have had like 5 people working for him. LOL And here I thought numbers were your strong suit.
 
But we have a World Class conference room to accommodate the AD staff meetings.

Seriously.


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As one who has designed a lot of executive conference spaces, that's a pretty crappy lighting design.
 
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Now now... I know language isn't your strong suit. But please try to choose the correct words to make your point. Words matter!

There may be only 364 full scholarship equivalents offered, but many of those who receive them are not full rides and get partials. So there are about 800 athletes that need attended to, which is the real point, no?

Given that we haven't greatly expanded the coaching staffs, and maybe marginally increased the academic staff and sports medicine/athletic trainers, and that those account for half of the employees, if we've doubled the number of employees, then Curley must have had like 5 people working for him. LOL And here I thought numbers were your strong suit.
Good grief


You are pathetic

Sad
 
Part of this is title creep. Assistant AD were assistant managers at one time.
The other part is the athletic department is a big business. What is the total value of ticket sales these days. Nonrevenu sports need support.
Maybe this new asst can raise money for a new bb facility,
 
You guys get way too caught up in titles.

PSU has always had someone responsible for trying to get money from NLC members. Just they never had a fancy title
 
They used to call it head football coach, and it was somewhat effective.
That's actually a very germane point

What they are paying the HFC (as ridiculous as those salaries are), assuming it results in even slightly better program performance, is a 1,000 X better ROI than all the admin suits put together.

They seem to feel that hiring more folks to beg for money (if they even actually do that much) is more effective than:
Competently providing basic services ....... like, say, manning the entry gates such that the paying customers can get into the venue in a manner that does not elicit flashbacks to the last refugees trying to "mosh pit" into choppers during the fall of Saigon .......

Nah, forget about that stuff, lets build an empire!!
 
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Joe might have been a one-off in that regard. He was a remarkable fundraiser.
Penn Stste was very lucky/spoiled in a few regards, and it seems like we squandered that and didn't adequately prepare for the day he would no longer be there, like he would go on forever.

We took advantage of a staff who didn't require market rate pay, we took advantage of an amazing fundraiser... and instead of taking those savings and investing them in facilities, or banking that money for later, we kept ticket and other prices artificially low compared to peer program. STEP was an attempt to start to correct that, but it was poorly implemented (and that's being kind) and everyone went into sticker shock. Throw that on top of aging facilities, Joe no longer around to fund raise, and Sandusky and we are playing catch up on both revenues and expenses.

A version of STEP should have been implemented years before, some people should have been grandfathered in or with reduced price options, and price should have risen gradually.
 
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Sure loves to add admin. Overhead. Sounds like the typical school district, that us private sector workers have to pay for. Used to be public servants, have not heard that for a while. Now, our public masters. Some progress.
 
Thank God they've now got competent, selfless, fiscally responsible folks running the ship!

With their track record of excellence and vision...... and their glorious efforts on behalf of Penn State..... what could go wrong!!

Thank God for Sandy Barbour, and God bless the United States of America!!!
 
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