I highly doubt many, if any, of those guys are cutting from anywhere near 150. You don't cut 1/6th of your body weight and remain effective
Nico - What does he need to do...?
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the top of 125 is pretty well even to me. I think you favor Nato but I doubt anyone would be surprised at all if Gilman, Nico, or Dance won it.
If it was a do-or-die situation I could agree with you, but it wasn't.
Even if he couldn't finish the shot in 20 seconds he still had OT.
Completely agree. That said, we're trying to figure out what our man, Nico, needs to do to put himself over the top in March.
Gilman has looked very tough this season, although against mediocre competition. Even if the competition he faces is not his fault at all.
Still say that Nico gets the largest advantage from a Tournament setting, because Nico, Dance, NaTo and Gilman are unlikely to face each other until the semi's.... Nico's attacking style and constant pressure is harder to defend against later in a tournament after multiple matches over a two-day period than it is when you are completely fresh in a dual. It is why Nico shines the brightest at Nationals every year - Nico will make it to the championship finals imo.
I actually like Nico's chances of beating Dance in a rematch. Nico was in control of their previous match and should have won. The late reversal he gave up was a big mistake, both technique-wise and tactically, but that is pretty easily correctable. However, Nico was able to get an early TD and get control of the match.
Gilman and NaTo may be more difficult. All these matches will likely come down to a single TD or go to OT. As we just saw, NaTo is tough to score on and I think Gilman is considerably improved from a couple years ago. Just going from memory (not completely reliable), Gilman has been more dominant than Nico this season against common B10 opponents. Nico CAN beat these NaTo and Gilman, but he'll have to wrestle near flawlessly and get a TD at some point.
As far as final NCAA placement, I'd say 3rd place is most likely, followed by 4th, 2nd, and 1st, in that order.
Gilman and NaTo may be more difficult. All these matches will likely come down to a single TD or go to OT. As we just saw, NaTo is tough to score on and I think Gilman is considerably improved from a couple years ago. Just going from memory (not completely reliable), Gilman has been more dominant than Nico this season against common B10 opponents. Nico CAN beat these NaTo and Gilman, but he'll have to wrestle near flawlessly and get a TD at some point.
As far as final NCAA placement, I'd say 3rd place is most likely, followed by 4th, 2nd, and 1st, in that order.
OK, I finally had a chance to review the video of the takedown closely, and here is what I think happened. Nico was in on a pretty decent shot, but Tomasello was blocking him with a whizzer. If you look closely, Nico brings the knee of his inside leg in behind Tomasellos foot to trap it, but he brought his knee just a little too far forward. All it took was a little push backwards with the hip by Tomasello, and Nico went down on the right side of his butt. Then Tomasello turned in and secured the takedown. It was basically a positioning error by Nico, and fortunately something he has time to work on and correct.
If you're in that deep for the first time in the match, I would argue you would feel urgency to finish it right there ...
Agree. Nico had him dead to rights. I think Cael's point was that when NaTo countered, he did not extricate Nico's grip deep on his leg and Nico attempted to move up on NaTo too quickly rather than securing his base and turning into NaTo's wizzer and moving up slowly on the leg and continuing to circle toward the wizzer. Nico tried to change his position so quickly that he knocked himself off balance at the same time he got his foot stuck (this knocked Nico onto his side and he lost his base.....and therefore all of his leverage. The best he could hope for at that point was a stalemate because he tried to take too much to quickly rather than "consolidate his base" and then grind toward the wizzer trying to circle in back and get the other leg.).
Put me in the camp that think Dance is just a little behind the other 3 even though he beat Nico earlier. I do not have a vision of Dance being able to beat any two of these three in consecutive matches. I can envision each of the other three pulling this off. BIG bias?
I see it pretty much the same way, without thinking about conferences. So I don't think the opinion is due to any conference bias.
I know of a 2X AA recently who was 150+ over Christmas break. You're naive if you think these kids don't cut 20-25 lbs from there normal weight
Well then they have serious problems with the NCAA descent plan https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Wrestling Weight Management_web.pdf http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/f...ght_Management_Program_Information_083115.pdf
you can't honestly believe that ncaa 125 lbers weigh 130 in the off season?
No but there's a difference between cutting and slowly tapering your weight loss. And there's also a big difference between 130 and 150. 150 of XMas break seems ridiculous
