Not looking good for Deon Barnes to get drafted
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These comments may seem surprising, coming from me, but I'm not sure why anybody is denouncing LJ sr in general, despite his encouragement of Deion Barnes to declare for the draft. He was a very successful assistant coach and recruiter at Penn State for a long time. I simply contend that his involvement with Barnes and his draft status was patently inappropriate and unethical, and he gave the kid some bad advice. No hate here, no calling him a traitor, no generalizing about his family. He simply should have known better, as a current Ohio State coach, than to get involved with his former team's player.
After four years in the program, he wasn't drafted. Regardless of what LJ did or didn't do, a fifth year likely wasn't going to make a big difference. Maybe he just wanted to get on with the next stage of his life.
Maybe, and maybe not. We'll never know. What we DO know is that Johnson advised him to leave, while coaching a rival team.
Oh by the way, in the first mock drafts of next years NFL draft, Adolphus Washington is projected as a first round pick.
As this has gotten around so far, this has to impact what people and new recruits think of LJ. If JF and the staff advised Barnes to give it another year, it seems really strange he would go off to a guy who has not really seen him in over a year. hope the PSU staff use that in recruiting.
as a practical matter, Barnes must have thought he would be a late round pick, or he would have stayed - get part or all the way done with Masters degree. Minus football that extra degree (at no cost) is worth more than a few weeks as an UFA.
anyone know Barnes major? curious how it might stack up when he looks for a real job next fall.
as a practical matter, Barnes must have thought he would be a late round pick, or he would have stayed - get part or all the way done with Masters degree. Minus football that extra degree (at no cost) is worth more than a few weeks as an UFA.
anyone know Barnes major? curious how it might stack up when he looks for a real job next fall.
You have no idea what advice he gave him! It was smart for Deion for seek all advice he could get, even former coaches. You have no clue what Larry told him. And EVEN IF larry said he should go, Deion is making te decision. Whatever larry said to him was one of MANY pieces to the puzzle. Guys, he coaches at Ohio state. Get over it. He's not the devil.
Do you actually think when Larry picked up the phone his intentions were "how can I screw over one of my old players who I view as one of my own, to make a terrible decision for himself career wise so that my loaded National Championship OSU team doesn't have to face a mediocre (at best) defensive end on a Penn State team that is coming off a dismal 6-6 season"? Do you really think that's what went through his mind? I'm sorry but anyone who believes that is an idiot / is a JZ conspiracy theorist.
While nobody can be certain that all of what you say is true(about Barnes being "mediocre", after all he WAS selected as a free agent), what we DO know, is that Barnes would have been a starter, on what might one of the ten best defenses in 2016. More interesting, even, to me, is that Johnson convinced Adolphus Washington to stay, while advising Deion Barnes to leave. Washington, unlike Barnes, WAS projected as a top 100 draft pick, and is now listed in most mock drafts, as a first round pick for next year. It's not that difficult to project that a two round move, might have been possible for Barnes also, had he returned, he may have been as high as a fourth round pick.
You know, I was thinking that my last post, in which I tried to provide some healthy perspective on the whole Barnes/LJ situation would be--my last post on the subject.Nahhhhh--too simple.
Look, latty, I don't know you. I don't know who you are, what you're good at, whether you're really knowledgeable about certain subjects or issues. And you don't know me. Did you know that I'm somewhat of an expert on Viking artifacts, and bought and sold them for over a dozen years? Of course you didn't--why would you? And you don't know who I might know--who my contacts are in the Penn State community. You don't know what I might know. So don't assume that because you don't know something that somebody else doesn't either.
I don't know why LJ did what he did. I just know that he had no business getting involved in Deion's decision.
Look, latty, I don't know you. I don't know who you are, what you're good at, whether you're really knowledgeable about certain subjects or issues. And you don't know me. Did you know that I'm somewhat of an expert on Viking artifacts, and bought and sold them for over a dozen years? Of course you didn't--why would you? And you don't know who I might know--who my contacts are in the Penn State community. You don't know what I might know. So don't assume that because you don't know something that somebody else doesn't either.
I don't know why LJ did what he did. I just know that he had no business getting involved in Deion's decision.
More than 1-2 people stated this David. On the BWI free board, it's not true unless you can hand over other sites paid info or you have the tape. You didn't hate on LJ, but repeated what others said. I get why Barnes reached out to him, but he blew it with his advice. Latty is right as that is on Barnes, but that was some poor advice. It's odd that some want to put their finger in their ears. If they didn't hear it, it's a lie.
This is a great example why it is best to t to let everyone's story play out. Barnes left too early, but look at the great talent ready to step in and take his role. This is how you build a championship team.
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