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Oil is trading close to $1.00 per barrel

bobroars

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The May contract that expires tomorrow. No place to store it, the price could go negative. Who could have imagined this?
 
Lowest price per barrel in almost 28 years. The problem is that there is little demand due to the pandemic with auto use way down etc. Being that many thousands of U.S. workers depend on the relatively high paying jobs supporting the energy sector....look for increased financial support from the government. Several large oil/gas providers stand very close to financial disaster if this continues. Not saying that the govt is always the answer....but....way too much is on the line to not assist these businesses IMO.
 
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Lowest price per barrel in almost 28 years. The problem is that there is little demand due to the pandemic with auto use way down etc. Being that many thousands of U.S. workers depend on the relatively high paying jobs supporting the energy sector....look for increased financial support from the government. Several large oil/gas providers stand very close to financial disaster if this continues. Not saying that the govt is always the answer....but....way too much is on the line to not assist these businesses IMO.

Socializing losses and privatizing profits - ain't capitalism grand what with its free markets and such?
 
Shut down the biggest consumer of oil, the airlines, throw in countries not allowed to drive anywhere, and this happens.
 
The pressure must be tremendous in Washington to get the economy going again. I think we'll open up in May and live with the consequences. Might not be popular but damn a penny a barrel:eek:
 
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Okay, please explain to us less enlightened in this area -- what does it mean when oil is trading at a negative? What exactly are we buying and selling? Is this a case where someone has more oil than they can store, so they are paying someone to take it off their hands? Or what is going on here? Thanks in advance for the explanation.
 
Okay, please explain to us less enlightened in this area -- what does it mean when oil is trading at a negative? What exactly are we buying and selling? Is this a case where someone has more oil than they can store, so they are paying someone to take it off their hands? Or what is going on here? Thanks in advance for the explanation.

Now the oil producers have to pay someone to store it. They can shut down wells, but they still have costs to pay, and that may be less than shutting down and having to restart later.
 
Socializing losses and privatizing profits - ain't capitalism grand what with its free markets and such?
As I said....govt is not always the answer. But.....I actually see a very nice profit for the treasury whereby the govt potentially bails out the oil group with heavy strings attached . With the govt borrowing at essentially zero interest ...simply name your % Interest you expect back from the oil folks debt and there should be a nice upside for the people's treasury. etc. IMO.
 
Now the oil producers have to pay someone to store it. They can shut down wells, but they still have costs to pay, and that may be less than shutting down and having to restart later.

So as the price continues to go further negative (-14.00), does that mean that there no actual transactions happening..... looking for a bottom?
 
So as the price continues to go further negative (-14.00), does that mean that there no actual transactions happening..... looking for a bottom?
Presumably the transactions are happening at the reported price but as storage fills it could go to crazy negative numbers.
 
Okay, please explain to us less enlightened in this area -- what does it mean when oil is trading at a negative? What exactly are we buying and selling? Is this a case where someone has more oil than they can store, so they are paying someone to take it off their hands? Or what is going on here? Thanks in advance for the explanation.
Yes they are paying to get rid of it because they have no room to store it. All ships , pipelines, and tank farms are full. And if you suddenly shut down a well, it could 'lock up' and fail to produce in the future so they hate to do so.
So as the price continues to go further negative (-14.00), does that mean that there no actual transactions happening..... looking for a bottom?
Yes again. These prices are for May delivery contracts and no one wants any because there is no where to store it so no one is buying. The May contract periods expires tomorrow so you will see prices for June delivery listed on Wed. that will be in the mid 20s as they anticipate storage will open up as supplies get used. I am guessing they are also betting on the government easing restrictions and economic activity picks up. If the virus has a second wave, oil prices for June will drop below 20.
 
Not the May contract. Now is crunch time with the May contract closing tomorrow - time to put up or shut up and many people have no place to put it anymore so they're selling.
There will be no May contracts transacting on Wed. The posted price on news shows will be for June contracts.
 
Presumably the transactions are happening at the reported price but as storage fills it could go to crazy negative numbers.
We talked about how the industry was running out of storage capacity a couple of weeks ago here on BWI and I swear I was told it could never happened. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
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So will they pay me to fill my tank?:confused:
Keep dreamin' Sadly, the government is making more money on gasoline than the oil companies. Fed tax is what, 24 cents/gal? Pa tax is around 60 cents. So about half the price is just for state and federal taxes. Add in the local taxes like real estate, school, employee taxes, and more.
 
What is the investment opportunity here if someone had cash sitting on the sidelines?
 
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