OK Lefties Here, you always state that if someone is innocent, he should agree to testify. Oath Keeper has agreed to testify if his testimony is live

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Almost certainly the Dem fraudsters will refuse the offer. Would be great to hear.

This brings us back to the offer of Stewart Rhodes (oath keeper) to testify live. That is an extraordinary offer for a criminal defendant. ...If the Committee is truly interested in getting to the truth, why wouldn’t it hold an open hearing? It has suggested that Trump was in collusion or a conspiracy with this group. It also alleged that the Oath Keepers came to Washington to commit an armed insurrection. We could now, for the first time, hear from one of the leaders of the two groups on that very subject. It would ideally allow him to make an opening statement and offer a full account on whether he coordinated with anyone in the White House on January 6th.

If Rhodes is willing to take this risk, the Committee should be willing to give up control over what the public can see and hear in the J6 investigation.
 

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Almost certainly the Dem fraudsters will refuse the offer. Would be great to hear.

This brings us back to the offer of Stewart Rhodes (oath keeper) to testify live. That is an extraordinary offer for a criminal defendant. ...If the Committee is truly interested in getting to the truth, why wouldn’t it hold an open hearing? It has suggested that Trump was in collusion or a conspiracy with this group. It also alleged that the Oath Keepers came to Washington to commit an armed insurrection. We could now, for the first time, hear from one of the leaders of the two groups on that very subject. It would ideally allow him to make an opening statement and offer a full account on whether he coordinated with anyone in the White House on January 6th.

If Rhodes is willing to take this risk, the Committee should be willing to give up control over what the public can see and hear in the J6 investigation.
If Mr. Rhodes were to admit to everything we consider to being unlawful, then what would you ask him?

Was he under the influence of drugs or alcohol after the election?
Is he being unduly influenced by the committee?
Have you received any death threats?

I have one for you.

Have you just agreed to testify under oath?
 
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If Mr. Rhodes were to admit to everything we consider to being unlawful, then what you ask him?

Was he under the influence of drugs or alcohol after the election?
Is he being unduly influenced by the committee?
Have you received any death threats?

I have one for you.

Have you just agreed to testify under oath?
You have zero understanding of Rhodes. He believes that he has given an oath to live by the Constitution and that it is the Dems who are unlawful. He wants to make his case to the country. About a 99% chance that the Dems won't allow it because their modus operandi is to cherry pick testimony and lie. They can't have an important person testify unless they can filter it to dishonestly suit their agenda. Of course, he would be happy to testify under oath.
 
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You have zero understanding of Rhodes. He believes that he has given an oath to live by the Constitution and that it is the Dems who are unlawful. He wants to make his case to the country. About a 99% chance that the Dems won't allow it because their modus operandi is to cherry pick testimony and lie. They can't have an important person testify unless they can filter it to dishonestly suit their agenda. Of course, he would be happy to testify under oath.
Is he possibly going to jail? If so, he may benefit by testifying ... under oath. And I do have confidence this committee will honestly seek corroborating testimony.
 
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Deny, deny for your corrupt and stupid leader.
I don't agree with dems anymore but guys like Bourbon and Bankos are plain idiots and cowards. This board is like 85% conservative/republican. Many times I will see the left offer opinions and guys like Bourbon and Bankos say they put guys on ignore because they offer nothing. You guys offer just as much as they do, you just have an opinion they don't like, you don't back down from their crap, so they put you on ignore. It's a punk move.

The big bad righties Bourbon and Bankos who think they are the model of freedom and free speech, put your speech on ignore when it's not what they want to hear. Isn't that similar to what cry the dem media does?
 
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I'm hysterical? How is that? I'll wait a month for your response.
This isn't a search for the truth. It's a one sided attempt to discredit Trump and the Republican Party ahead of they elections.

Did the select committee corroborate Hutchinson's testimony? Why didn't the subpoena the secret service who were directly involved?

Here's the process Catch. The select committee looks for anybody who can make Trump and other republicans look bad. They dipose them in private. If they say something exculpatory you'll never see them again. If they say something that's incriminating you'll see them on TV. You won't see any cross examination by Trump supporters.
 

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This isn't a search for the truth. It's a one sided attempt to discredit Trump and the Republican Party ahead of they elections.

Did the select committee corroborate Hutchinson's testimony? Why didn't the subpoena the secret service who were directly involved?

Here's the process Catch. The select committee looks for anybody who can make Trump and other republicans look bad. They dipose them in private. If they say something exculpatory you'll never see them again. If they say something that's incriminating you'll see them on TV. You won't see any cross examination by Trump supporters.
Here's the process. Almost all the witnesses are Republicans. If what you're saying is true, then why don't they go public and say their testimony has been suppressed?
 
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I don't agree with dems on anymore but guys like Bourbon and Bankos are plain idiots and cowards. This board is like 85% conservative/republican. Many times I will see the left offer opinions and guys like Bourbon and Bankos say they put guys on ignore because they offer nothing. You guys offer just as much as they do, you just have an opinion they don't like, you don't back down from their crap, so they put you on ignore. It's a punk move.

The big bad righties Bourbon and Bankos who think they are the model of freedom and free speech, put you speech on ignore when it's not what they want to hear. Isn't that similar to what cry the dem media does?
I basically disagree. What the Dems have to often say is direct and to the point. There is not much there to argue about. Dems keep it short and sweet much more often than Republicans. The Republicans on this board act as if they are the ones on trial.
 
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I don't agree with dems on anymore but guys like Bourbon and Bankos are plain idiots and cowards. This board is like 85% conservative/republican. Many times I will see the left offer opinions and guys like Bourbon and Bankos say they put guys on ignore because they offer nothing. You guys offer just as much as they do, you just have an opinion they don't like, you don't back down from their crap, so they put you on ignore. It's a punk move.

The big bad righties Bourbon and Bankos who think they are the model of freedom and free speech, put you speech on ignore when it's not what they want to hear. Isn't that similar to what cry the dem media does?
You’re another idiot .
 
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This isn't a search for the truth. It's a one sided attempt to discredit Trump and the Republican Party ahead of they elections.

Did the select committee corroborate Hutchinson's testimony? Why didn't the subpoena the secret service who were directly involved?

Here's the process Catch. The select committee looks for anybody who can make Trump and other republicans look bad. They dipose them in private. If they say something exculpatory you'll never see them again. If they say something that's incriminating you'll see them on TV. You won't see any cross examination by Trump supporters.
Exactly, but you could explain that to my dog and he’d understand you better.
 

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I don't agree with dems on anymore but guys like Bourbon and Bankos are plain idiots and cowards. This board is like 85% conservative/republican. Many times I will see the left offer opinions and guys like Bourbon and Bankos say they put guys on ignore because they offer nothing. You guys offer just as much as they do, you just have an opinion they don't like, you don't back down from their crap, so they put you on ignore. It's a punk move.

The big bad righties Bourbon and Bankos who think they are the model of freedom and free speech, put you speech on ignore when it's not what they want to hear. Isn't that similar to what cry the dem media does?
No one is owed interaction. Try being smarter and I’ll be nicer .
 
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No one is owed interaction. Try being smarter and I’ll be nicer .
Read carefully as I just replied to him.

"If they say something exculpatory you'll never see them again. If they say something that's incriminating you'll see them on TV. You won't see any cross examination by Trump supporters."

If what bdgan saying is true, then why don't they go public and say their testimony has been suppressed?
And the right wing media has plenty of opportunity to cross examine. The FACT IS that Republicans like Jim Jordan just waste everybody's time.
 

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Here's the process. Almost all the witnesses are Republicans. If what you're saying is true, then why don't they go public and say their testimony has been suppressed?
You can't be that naive. First of all, you have no idea that people like police or security guards are republican much less Trump supporters. Second, it's hardly a surprise that democrats would seek out disgruntled Trump supporters.

I think Trump took things too far. I think he played a role in 1/6 by getting people riled up. I hope he doesn't run in 2024 but I don't believe he "summoned" his followers to violently overthrow the government. If you think the select committee is bipartisan and seeking nothing but the truth you have serious issues.
 

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You can't be that naive. First of all, you have no idea that people like police or security guards are republican much less Trump supporters. Second, it's hardly a surprise that democrats would seek out disgruntled Trump supporters.

I think Trump took things too far. I think he played a role in 1/6 by getting people riled up. I hope he doesn't run in 2024 but I don't believe he "summoned" his followers to violently overthrow the government. If you think the select committee is bipartisan and seeking nothing but the truth you have serious issues.
You are quite naive. Your so-called disgruntled Trump supporters were the folks right in the middle of it all.
 
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Almost certainly the Dem fraudsters will refuse the offer. Would be great to hear.

This brings us back to the offer of Stewart Rhodes (oath keeper) to testify live. That is an extraordinary offer for a criminal defendant. ...If the Committee is truly interested in getting to the truth, why wouldn’t it hold an open hearing? It has suggested that Trump was in collusion or a conspiracy with this group. It also alleged that the Oath Keepers came to Washington to commit an armed insurrection. We could now, for the first time, hear from one of the leaders of the two groups on that very subject. It would ideally allow him to make an opening statement and offer a full account on whether he coordinated with anyone in the White House on January 6th.

If Rhodes is willing to take this risk, the Committee should be willing to give up control over what the public can see and hear in the J6 investigation.
All the witnesses have been treated the same. This guy is currently in jail and wamts some free time. He can do his testimony like all the others, same for Steve Bannon.
 
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They already have deposed Ornato (sp) who was in the car. No surprise that they have elected to keep his testimony secret to this point. Also, because he still works for the government, he can't speak out without fear of retribution.
When? Provide details.
 

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If Mr. Rhodes were to admit to everything we consider to being unlawful, then what would you ask him?

Was he under the influence of drugs or alcohol after the election?
Is he being unduly influenced by the committee?
Have you received any death threats?

I have one for you.

Have you just agreed to testify under oath?
Willing to take this risk? What? The risk of what? That he would admit to criminal activity in furtherance of a scheme to try to rob our nation of our democracy? Open testimony would just sanction another unsolicited Trumpism moronic, hate mongering, stop the steal tirade--only this time on national TV. Democracy has taken a beating (I am an attorney with 40 years experience) and the real shame of it is that many of the beaters ( I assume that you may be one) cannot fathom why our country succeeded for so long and how precious democracy is. Allowance to steal an election by those who simply WISH to stay in power in the antithesis of democracy. If you went to Penn State you should know what that word means. And...I am not a lefty. I have voted in the past for both parties--liberal on social matters and moderate on others. I am against this trash. I am against what has become a politicized, religious based Supreme Court. I am against people who try to take rights from women to protect 1 inch fetuses, knowing that these same people will do nothing to help when/if unwanted pregnancies lead to birth. I am against the proliferation of violence and the anti-social need for so many to have weapons of mass destruction (that's what they are). I am against hatred toward black people and Jews but I think that a lot of people who are pro-life, pro-gun do have those hatreds. I am very much in favor of religious freedom but I do not believe that religious freedom should be construed to mean that you can impose your religion on me or my son in a high school football huddle. It saddens me to see so many right wing undemocratic points of view on this site and saddens me further that a dangerous moron like Mastriano has a chance to be our governor and that Scott Perry represents people in counties where I practice.
 
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Willing to take this risk? What? The risk of what? That he would admit to criminal activity in furtherance of a scheme to try to rob our nation of our democracy? Open testimony would just sanction another unsolicited Trumpism moronic, hate mongering, stop the steal tirade--only this time on national TV. Democracy has taken a beating (I am an attorney with 40 years experience) and the real shame of it is that many of the beaters ( I assume that you may be one) cannot fathom why our country succeeded for so long and how precious democracy is. Allowance to steal an election by those who simply WISH to stay in power in the antithesis of democracy. If you went to Penn State you should know what that word means. And...I am not a lefty. I have voted in the past for both parties--liberal on social matters and moderate on others. I am against this trash. I am against what has become a politicized, religious based Supreme Court. I am against people who try to take rights from women to protect 1 inch fetuses, knowing that these same people will do nothing to help when/if unwanted pregnancies lead to birth. I am against the proliferation of violence and the anti-social need for so many to have weapons of mass destruction (that's what they are). I am against hatred toward black people and Jews but I think that a lot of people who are pro-life, pro-gun do have those hatreds. I am very much in favor of religious freedom but I do not believe that religious freedom should be construed to mean that you can impose your religion on me or my son in a high school football huddle. It saddens me to see so many right wing undemocratic points of view on this site and saddens me further that a dangerous moron like Mastriano has a chance to be our governor and that Scott Perry represents people in counties where I practice.
For an attorney, you are not very well informed. You are acting as if January 6th was some horrible first of a kind event. However, the Russian gate intelligence agency coup attempt went on for about 20 months with zero factual justification. At this point in time there are still no Democrats admitting responsibility for what they and their associates did. January 6th was a moderate riot that was nothing compared to the 2020 Summer of insurrections. Please get yourself up to date on what the real facts are.
 
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Willing to take this risk? What? The risk of what? That he would admit to criminal activity in furtherance of a scheme to try to rob our nation of our democracy? Open testimony would just sanction another unsolicited Trumpism moronic, hate mongering, stop the steal tirade--only this time on national TV. Democracy has taken a beating (I am an attorney with 40 years experience) and the real shame of it is that many of the beaters ( I assume that you may be one) cannot fathom why our country succeeded for so long and how precious democracy is. Allowance to steal an election by those who simply WISH to stay in power in the antithesis of democracy. If you went to Penn State you should know what that word means. And...I am not a lefty. I have voted in the past for both parties--liberal on social matters and moderate on others. I am against this trash. I am against what has become a politicized, religious based Supreme Court. I am against people who try to take rights from women to protect 1 inch fetuses, knowing that these same people will do nothing to help when/if unwanted pregnancies lead to birth. I am against the proliferation of violence and the anti-social need for so many to have weapons of mass destruction (that's what they are). I am against hatred toward black people and Jews but I think that a lot of people who are pro-life, pro-gun do have those hatreds. I am very much in favor of religious freedom but I do not believe that religious freedom should be construed to mean that you can impose your religion on me or my son in a high school football huddle. It saddens me to see so many right wing undemocratic points of view on this site and saddens me further that a dangerous moron like Mastriano has a chance to be our governor and that Scott Perry represents people in counties where I practice.

Wow, how did you manage to squeeze so much bullshit into such a small package?
 

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Willing to take this risk? What? The risk of what? That he would admit to criminal activity in furtherance of a scheme to try to rob our nation of our democracy? Open testimony would just sanction another unsolicited Trumpism moronic, hate mongering, stop the steal tirade--only this time on national TV. Democracy has taken a beating (I am an attorney with 40 years experience) and the real shame of it is that many of the beaters ( I assume that you may be one) cannot fathom why our country succeeded for so long and how precious democracy is. Allowance to steal an election by those who simply WISH to stay in power in the antithesis of democracy. If you went to Penn State you should know what that word means. And...I am not a lefty. I have voted in the past for both parties--liberal on social matters and moderate on others. I am against this trash. I am against what has become a politicized, religious based Supreme Court. I am against people who try to take rights from women to protect 1 inch fetuses, knowing that these same people will do nothing to help when/if unwanted pregnancies lead to birth. I am against the proliferation of violence and the anti-social need for so many to have weapons of mass destruction (that's what they are). I am against hatred toward black people and Jews but I think that a lot of people who are pro-life, pro-gun do have those hatreds. I am very much in favor of religious freedom but I do not believe that religious freedom should be construed to mean that you can impose your religion on me or my son in a high school football huddle. It saddens me to see so many right wing undemocratic points of view on this site and saddens me further that a dangerous moron like Mastriano has a chance to be our governor and that Scott Perry represents people in counties where I practice.
Try this thing called paragraphs and maybe I'd read this bullshit.
 
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