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is as impressive as I’ve seen in my 48 years of watching college football. To do what he did with our WR corps as pedestrian as it was is amazing. I understand we have excellent backs and a phenomenal TE but the creativity and the usage of multiple personnel was beyond impressive. I’m sure he will make a great head coach somewhere. If we had an All American (Bobby Engram) type receiver on this team the offense would have been just as good as ‘94 and we would be in the championship game with a legit chance to win.
 
I feel the opposite. I’m sort of underwhelmed with Andy. I think he forced a lot of what he wanted to do despite not having the personnel to pull it off and didn’t adapt to what our personnel (or lack their of in certain spots) and game flows dictated.

The sizzle was nice sometimes, a bit more steak was called for and not delivered others.

These last two games needed more power running in the second half and we just kept trying to square peg round hole the passing game that was ineffective. Boise is a blowout and yesterday is a win if we do that.
 
I would love to see someone breakdown our hurry-up play calling. It felt like we ran about 5-8 plays against ND where we tried to keep the same personnel and catch ND off guard. I have to imagine that we failed miserably on all of those plays. Complete momentum killers.
 
AK definitely had the Oline and the run game going strong.

He found some creative ways to get Warren the ball.

But he couldn't come up with anything to help the WRs get open? But in his defense, the WRs are low end MAC level at best.

A lack of helping Drew on downs when you know pressure is coming is mind numbing. That screen pass to Singleton early in the game was beautiful. And then he shelved that play. Why?

The stupid trick plays that are momentum killers have to go.

Overall, he is a good OC. Hopefully he will have at least a serviceable WR room next year.
 
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I feel the opposite. I’m sort of underwhelmed with Andy. I think he forced a lot of what he wanted to do despite not having the personnel to pull it off and didn’t adapt to what our personnel (or lack their of in certain spots) and game flows dictated.

The sizzle was nice sometimes, a bit more steak was called for and not delivered others.

These last two games needed more power running in the second half and we just kept trying to square peg round hole the passing game that was ineffective. Boise is a blowout and yesterday is a win if we do that.
I suspect there's some pressure to use Allar's arm when a running play would do. We fired the last OC for not doing things to try to get the QB in a rhythm in a big game, remember?
 
I am surprised that our WR coach has not been fired yet today. he is in year two of his assignment. I am not sure why he's still on staff.
 
I suspect there's some pressure to use Allar's arm when a running play would do. We fired the last OC for not doing things to try to get the QB in a rhythm in a big game, remember?

We also couldn’t get the running game going under the last oc. Nothing worked.
 
We had their D line totally worn out in the first half and then stopped the power game in the second half and allowed them to feel as though they could play with us. Our screen and short pass game was there to the backs and TE's on play action as well, but we really stopped doing so. I like AK's play calling and scheme for the most part, but he has to stick with what's working when it's working and keep the other stuff in his bag of tricks for when it is needed.

Not to harp on Joe v Franklin comparison, but i remember a game back in late 70's or early 80's where we ran the same running play, a counter-trap play, for pretty much the entire game because the other team could not stop it. I know that times have changed, but if you are better at something, why not stick with it. If we had to pass, then the little flat pass or dump off to Singleton left him 1 on 1 with #24 all night. It was decent yardage on every play and left the opportunity for him to break one with one missed tackle or slip by the linebacker. On the pick on our last possession, he should have just dumped it down to Singleton and let him run.
 
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We had their D line totally worn out in the first half and then stopped the power game in the second half and allowed them to feel as though they could play with us. Our screen and short pass game was there to the backs and TE's on play action as well, but we really stopped doing so. I like AK's play calling and scheme for the most part, but he has to stick with what's working when it's working and keep the other stuff in his bag of tricks for when it is needed.

Not to harp on Joe v Franklin comparison, but i remember a game back in late 70's or early 80's where we ran the same running play, a counter-trap play, for pretty much the entire game because the other team could not stop it. I know that times have changed, but if you are better at something, why not stick with it. If we had to pass, then the little flat pass or dump off to Singleton left him 1 on 1 with #24 all night. It was decent yardage on every play and left the opportunity for him to break one with one missed tackle or slip by the linebacker. On the pick on our last possession, he should have just dumped it down to Singleton and let him run.
Are you old enough to remember Joe’s play calling on first and goal from the one against Alabama in 1978?
 
Play Caller really struggled last night:

Gashing them with the run, so force your struggling QB to try to sling it.
Big play, then run hurry-up and stall drive. Allar needs sideline assistance and formation shifts to be successful.
Putting your TE at QB while leaving your statue QB on field to play 10 on 11 is brutal.
Inside redzone, just continually forget about 44 all together.
 
is as impressive as I’ve seen in my 48 years of watching college football. To do what he did with our WR corps as pedestrian as it was is amazing. I understand we have excellent backs and a phenomenal TE but the creativity and the usage of multiple personnel was beyond impressive. I’m sure he will make a great head coach somewhere. If we had an All American (Bobby Engram) type receiver on this team the offense would have been just as good as ‘94 and we would be in the championship game with a legit chance to win.
As good as ‘94? Not even close.

But it would have helped.
 
We had their D line totally worn out in the first half and then stopped the power game in the second half and allowed them to feel as though they could play with us. Our screen and short pass game was there to the backs and TE's on play action as well, but we really stopped doing so. I like AK's play calling and scheme for the most part, but he has to stick with what's working when it's working and keep the other stuff in his bag of tricks for when it is needed.

Not to harp on Joe v Franklin comparison, but i remember a game back in late 70's or early 80's where we ran the same running play, a counter-trap play, for pretty much the entire game because the other team could not stop it. I know that times have changed, but if you are better at something, why not stick with it. If we had to pass, then the little flat pass or dump off to Singleton left him 1 on 1 with #24 all night. It was decent yardage on every play and left the opportunity for him to break one with one missed tackle or slip by the linebacker. On the pick on our last possession, he should have just dumped it down to Singleton and let him run.
Christ, Joe plucked a kid out of a back-safety position. Put him in the line up THAT WEEK and the kid has like 200 yards.

Frankin would be in the fetal position if that happened to his team. But he would love the excuse.
 
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I feel the opposite. I’m sort of underwhelmed with Andy. I think he forced a lot of what he wanted to do despite not having the personnel to pull it off and didn’t adapt to what our personnel (or lack their of in certain spots) and game flows dictated.

The sizzle was nice sometimes, a bit more steak was called for and not delivered others.

These last two games needed more power running in the second half and we just kept trying to square peg round hole the passing game that was ineffective. Boise is a blowout and yesterday is a win if we do that.
agree, he made T Warren some $ to be sure but overall didn't do much to help our offense.
 
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I suspect there's some pressure to use Allar's arm when a running play would do. We fired the last OC for not doing things to try to get the QB in a rhythm in a big game, remember?
Drew couldn't care less...theres no pressure. Getting them in rhythm isn't forcing throws...its putting them in a spit to succeed. He worked in the pass nicely for most of the second half.
 
I honestly couldn't tell if the OP was sarcasm.

Even if we had a legit WR, the gimmicky plays suck and we don't play to our strengths nearly enough. A 1994-level OC doesn't absolutely shit the bed with way AK did in that Ohio State game.
 
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is as impressive as I’ve seen in my 48 years of watching college football. To do what he did with our WR corps as pedestrian as it was is amazing. I understand we have excellent backs and a phenomenal TE but the creativity and the usage of multiple personnel was beyond impressive. I’m sure he will make a great head coach somewhere. If we had an All American (Bobby Engram) type receiver on this team the offense would have been just as good as ‘94 and we would be in the championship game with a legit chance to win.
Respectfully I think this is a little over the top. I like what he’s done but 1. success as a coordinator does not guarantee success as a head coach and 2. I can’t abide throwing high risk fade passes inside the 10 especially when you’re dominating the opponent on the line of scrimmage. And it’s not like the first time this has happened. All things considered he did a good job and hopefully next year will be bigger and better.
 
Drew couldn't care less...theres no pressure. Getting them in rhythm isn't forcing throws...its putting them in a spit to succeed. He worked in the pass nicely for most of the second half.
Pressure from Franklin, not Allar. I don't think Allar fired Yurcich, though his play got him fired.
 
Pressure from Franklin, not Allar. I don't think Allar fired Yurcich, though his play got him fired.
Allar may have had a say in that firing lol
Yurcich needed to go regardless.
I dont see Franklin doing that but who knows. The goal is simply to win
 
is as impressive as I’ve seen in my 48 years of watching college football. To do what he did with our WR corps as pedestrian as it was is amazing. I understand we have excellent backs and a phenomenal TE but the creativity and the usage of multiple personnel was beyond impressive. I’m sure he will make a great head coach somewhere. If we had an All American (Bobby Engram) type receiver on this team the offense would have been just as good as ‘94 and we would be in the championship game with a legit chance to win.

No doubt Kotelnicki was extremely limited by an horrendous WR core and a QB who has the physical tools but makes way too many mental mistakes. However, pump the brakes on Kotelnicki’s offense being impressive. It was a gimmick based offense that struggled mightily against Ohio State and Notre Dame. To win the big games against top competitors, Penn State can’t rely solely on gimmicks.

Lastly, the 1994 and 2016 teams were a billion times more explosive than Kotelnicki’s pedestrian 2024 offense.
 
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