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On Defense, Shareef Miller, love that kid, he is putting together a nice resume + went to my HS....

He will. He is a redshirt junior.

I’ve seen a lot of talk that he is going pro, sounds like one of those situations, that it doesn’t matter where he is drafted, he’s going.

It’s a bummer, because our defense could be very good next year. Could return every single player that played a snap on the DL this year.

I don’t think you’d find anyone on this message board that would argue that Farmer at LB is addition by subtraction.

The secondary has some losses with AO, he’s played 84% of the total snaps this year, but John Reid and TCF have played a lot of football. Depth with Donovan Johnson and Zech is very good.

The loss of Scott hurts, but Sutherland could step in. He’s actually played 25% of all snaps this year.
 
He's gone no matter what. Reload mode. No reason Simmons or Toney cant take the next step (which they will baring injuries). Joseph has been very serviceable as well. I am not forgetting about Oweh either, he will be a force to be reckoned with after his first offseason.
 
based on his play this year, he is a late round draft pick at best. And no shot to get a combine invite or make a roster. So not so sure why everybody says he will be leaving based on the current year play. if he was lighting it up and playing at a all Big Ten type level and playing his way into a 2nd/3rd round pick, then makes sense. But just look back at Sickels and Evans of guys who left early and never made it. With the stipend guys get in college now-a-days,not sure why they would leave early.
 
based on his play this year, he is a late round draft pick at best. And no shot to get a combine invite or make a roster. So not so sure why everybody says he will be leaving based on the current year play. if he was lighting it up and playing at a all Big Ten type level and playing his way into a 2nd/3rd round pick, then makes sense. But just look back at Sickels and Evans of guys who left early and never made it. With the stipend guys get in college now-a-days,not sure why they would leave early.
I think Miller is absolutely playing at an all-conference level right now. He was an all-conference player last year, too.

High draft picks for edge rushers in today’s NFL are based so much more on your measurables and athleticism than your college stat sheet, whether you exhaust your eligibility or not. And college cost of living stipends don’t feed your family at home.
 
I think Miller is absolutely playing at an all-conference level right now. He was an all-conference player last year, too.

High draft picks for edge rushers in today’s NFL are based so much more on your measurables and athleticism than your college stat sheet, whether you exhaust your eligibility or not. And college cost of living stipends don’t feed your family at home.

Also makes sense for someone to get on with his life when ready. So if Miller thinks he's ready and/or he has his degree, godspeed if he decides to leave.
 
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I think Miller is absolutely playing at an all-conference level right now. He was an all-conference player last year, too.

High draft picks for edge rushers in today’s NFL are based so much more on your measurables and athleticism than your college stat sheet, whether you exhaust your eligibility or not. And college cost of living stipends don’t feed your family at home.

so i guess we can agree to disagree. He has one sack in conference play, not sure that is all big ten level. and with respect to feeding your family, if you don't make an NFL roster, that doesn't feed the family either.
 
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If his performance this year is similar to last year, why would he stay another year? Probably sees himself as plateaued in college play. Maybe he gets better as a pro, and gets paid too.

As for for some of the other losses on defense, they've made some plays, but missed far too many relative to their class standing and experience.

Bottom line, I think the defense gets much better next year. Call it addition by subtraction, or just more experience for others. I especially look forward to a linebacking core of Parsons, Luketa, and Brooks. They will be remembered along side many of our great LB teams.
 
If his performance this year is similar to last year, why would he stay another year? Probably sees himself as plateaued in college play. Maybe he gets better as a pro, and gets paid too.

As for for some of the other losses on defense, they've made some plays, but missed far too many relative to their class standing and experience.

Bottom line, I think the defense gets much better next year. Call it addition by subtraction, or just more experience for others. I especially look forward to a linebacking core of Parsons, Luketa, and Brooks. They will be remembered along side many of our great LB teams.

I too look forward to that line backing core (plus Brandon smith and Dixon), but cam brown is going to be starting next year.. he’s become our best LB this year. I’m just hoping Luketa/brooks can wrestle more time away from Jan Johnson next year
 
Shareef has had a good season, no doubt. Hope he returns, but we have guys redshirting who can step in. I especially think Tarburton is going to be a really solid addition with his old school mentality and LB background.
I also think at some point Simmons is going to take a big step up. He was close to this last season, but this season is still getting over the foot injury.
 
If he leaves, I just hope he has his degree.

I see him as a UDFA right now
 
Some of the press on Shareef indicates he’s had a pretty tough life, much tougher than mine. He should be proud of where’s he’s gotten himself. I hope he does well after Penn State, regardless of the endeavor.
 
You really can’t criticize a kid who earns his degree for moving on.
 
I think miller and miles sanders will declare for the draft..Amani O is the highest rated PSU player.
 
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