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There was no excuse for him yelling at an alum that she is "ruining the university" because she objects to what the BOT has been doing.
Hell, the one guy he yelled at is actually a guy who has been - relatively - very moderate and even somewhat supportive of the Board.

Of course, its not beyond the realm of reasonable possibility (if you were there, and aware of Barron's history) that he confused that guy with me. Suffice to say, Kim Jong ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
I don't know what you do, but President of a top research university jobs don't come open every day. And maybe he knows the handwriting is on the wall (let's hope so) and that he won't have to deal with those in charge of the BOT much longer.
He already had a University President position.....right??

Of all the people who WOULD NOT have had an "excuse" to take the Scoundrels money.....it would be him.

He wasn't freaking destitute (which wouldn't have been a good excuse anyway).

So........F&CK HIM!
 
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It is my opinion that, after the BOT's failed attempt at hiring a corrupt, compromised criminal from SUNY, they went after Barron because he is not the sharpest tool in the shed. The SUNY guy was perfect, they could hold his illegal dealings over his head and he would "play ball" as told. Barron may be compromised as well (he worked in a capacity similar to Rodney previously) but, if not compromised, look at his body of work and tell me he is bright.
 
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It is my opinion that, after the BOT's failed attempt at hiring a corrupt, compromised criminal from SUNY, they went after Barron because he is not the sharpest tool in the shed. The SUNY guy was perfect, they could hold his illegal dealings over his head and he would "play ball" as told. Barron may be compromised as well (he worked in a capacity similar to Rodney previously) but, if not compromised, look at his body of work and tell me he is bright.
Two things the Scoundrels needed to know/find out:

Is Barron a whore?.....

if "yes".....

What is his price?


They got their answers.
 
I don't believe the OG gave Barron access to the Freeh materials and therefore he couldn't do a review of the report.
 
I don't believe the OG gave Barron access to the Freeh materials and therefore he couldn't do a review of the report.
Well.....it is certainly true that he never had access......or asked for access......or wanted access

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I don't believe the OG gave Barron access to the Freeh materials and therefore he couldn't do a review of the report.
He had no intention of doing any thorough review. That's why I have no clue why he said he would do one.
 
Great question. I too have wondered the very same thing. It became 100% clear that Barron is aligned with the OG Bot when he chastised the alum reps for suing PSU to get accesss to the full freeh base files. Once he did that I thought that once the alum reps get rid of the OG BOT and regain control of the BOT, Barron will be gone.

Barron has shown his true colors and isn't looking out for the best interests of PSU, only the interests of his masters on the OG BOT.
No evidence of this.
 
He had no intention of doing any thorough review. That's why I have no clue why he said he would do one.
I don't think so. I believe at that time he had no idea how deep this thing really was and that he intended to do a review. After stating such he began to realize a review would be impossible without the supporting documents and the OG had no intention of showing those to anyone who hadn't already seen them prior. Barron then made a very bad choice by backing these criminals.
 
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No evidence of this.

Uhh..yes there is....the evidence is Barron's stupid statement, put out via formal PSU channels, chastising the alumni elected BOT for doing their damned jobs by asking for full unredacted access to freeh's bull shit report.

Are you seriously trying to claim Barron is NOT aligned with the OG BOT???

It's become painfully clear by now that Barron is simply a tool used by the OG BOT to placate/manipulate the alumni who haven't been paying very close attention...which unfortunately is the majority of our alumni it seems.
 
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No evidence of this.

Not if this is your world view:

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Otherwise......not so much :)
 
I don't think so. I believe at that time he had no idea how deep this thing really was and that he intended to do a review. After stating such he began to realize a review would be impossible without the supporting documents and the OG had no intention of showing those to anyone who hadn't already seen them prior. Barron then made a very bad choice by backing these criminals.
Trust me....he knew what he was saying and why.

HE. NEVER. INTENDED. TO. DO. A. REVIEW.

It was clear even before the little "word bubble" dissipated over his head.
 
He had no intention of doing any thorough review. That's why I have no clue why he said he would do one.
He "did it" to take the heat off of the Scoundrels for stonewalling access to the Elected Trustees.
 
Great question. I too have wondered the very same thing. It became 100% clear that Barron is aligned with the OG Bot when he chastised the alum reps for suing PSU to get accesss to the full freeh base files. Once he did that I thought that once the alum reps get rid of the OG BOT and regain control of the BOT, Barron will be gone.

Barron has shown his true colors and isn't looking out for the best interests of PSU, only the interests of his masters on the OG BOT.
Barron is paid very well and is near retirement. He is not the dynamic leader PSU needs for the future.I hope he leaves as the alumni take over.
 
Barron is paid very well and is near retirement. He is not the dynamic leader PSU needs for the future.I hope he leaves as the alumni take over.

Yeah, I suspect one of the reasons he took the job was to enhance his state pension. Like Rodney, he'll get 3 to 4 years at a high income level, which will greatly increase his pension (I believe he had 20 or more years of work in PA prior to returning also). Hardly the profile of a guy who is eager to tackle big challenges.
 
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Trust me....he knew what he was saying and why.

HE. NEVER. INTENDED. TO. DO. A. REVIEW.

It was clear even before the little "word bubble" dissipated over his head.
Not to say we told them so, but many of us knew this from the moment he said he was going to do a review of the Freeh Report. He was so easy to see through from day one.
 
I don't believe the OG gave Barron access to the Freeh materials and therefore he couldn't do a review of the report.

I was curious about this as well. I'd imagine he did not have access, otherwise this would have been pointed out by the alumni trustees in court as an example of the BOT sharing what they claim are ACP documents. I read the transcript last night and there was no mention of giving the source materials to Barron. It would have been a great example too, because as they showed in court, Barron reports to the BOT, not the other way around.

As to whether or not Barron even asked for them, I don't know. But it's probably safe to assume he hasn't seen them, either through his own fault of not requesting to access them or by being denied access from the BOT.
 
I was curious about this as well. I'd imagine he did not have access, otherwise this would have been pointed out by the alumni trustees in court as an example of the BOT sharing what they claim are ACP documents. I read the transcript last night and there was no mention of giving the source materials to Barron. It would have been a great example too, because as they showed in court, Barron reports to the BOT, not the other way around.

As to whether or not Barron even asked for them, I don't know. But it's probably safe to assume he hasn't seen them, either through his own fault of not requesting to access them or by being denied access from the BOT.

My suspicion is that he did actually intend to review the materials but made his statement without consulting the people who made this mess, and they shut him down. I'm guessing that he got his knuckles rapped pretty hard.
 
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My suspicion is that he did actually intend to review the materials but made his statement without consulting the people who made this mess, and they shut him down. I'm guessing that he got his knuckles rapped pretty hard.
This is exactly what I believe happened.
 
This is exactly what I believe happened.
Barron press conference: On Friday, I informed the University's Board of Trustees that I will conduct a thorough review of the Freeh Report and supporting materials produced during the course of the investigation. The contents of the report have led to questions by some in the Penn State community. I do not want people to believe that Penn State is hiding something. I feel strongly about this. For this important reason, and since I was not here during its completion, I will conduct my own review. There is considerable documentation to analyze, but I assured the Board I would move with all deliberate speed.

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You may recall that Dr. Barron announcing that he would review the Freeh Report was a bit of a welcomed surprise at the time.

This is speculation: The idea that Barron, a "disinterested party", would review the Freeh Report was likely a measured response to the alumni-elected trustees' relentless pursuit of the Freeh materials (note: efforts for which I am eternally grateful) .What this tactic ultimately failed to do was dissuade them from that effort. I suspect this is chief among the reasons that Barron's review was unceremoniously mothballed.

This is not speculation: The old guard trustees/OG trustee emeriti get red in the face at the very mention of the Freeh Report by any alumni-elected trustee. And they make an awful lot of excuses as to why this upsets them so.
 
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This is speculation: The idea that Barron, a "disinterested party", would review the Freeh Report was likely a measured response to the alumni-elected trustees relentless pursuit of the Freeh materials (note: efforts for which I am eternally grateful) .

DING DING DING!!!!

It bought the Scoundrels some time (and probably "bought" the Bloviator a little bigger bonus)
Time that the Scoundrels used to cram down the "victim payouts".....so that they could then make the ludicrous claim that the FREEH REPORT was no longer of any import to any pending University business.

It ain't so hard if you follow along.
 
"On Friday, I informed the University's Board of Trustees that I will conduct a thorough review of the Freeh Report and supporting materials produced during the course of the investigation. The contents of the report have led to questions by some in the Penn State community. I do not want people to believe that Penn State is hiding something. I feel strongly about this. For this important reason, and since I was not here during its completion, I will conduct my own review. There is considerable documentation to analyze, but I assured the Board I would move with all deliberate speed.

This "decision" by Barron came - literally - moments after the contentious BOT meeting of Friday, November 14th.
Immediately after the meeting, Barron caucused with the Scoundrels....and then released his statement
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To put this in context, you need to remember what was going on at the time.....if you do, it don't take no rocket surgeon to figure out what happened and why.

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This November 14 meeting was the meeting were the Elected Trustees really began to push their case for access to the Freeh File.
It was getting ugly.

Prior to the November meeting, a "special meeting" was held in September. This story - from the Collegian - summarizes that meeting:
SEPTEMBER 2014:

"The tension was palpable today for a special Penn State Board of Trustees meeting in which several crowd members, whose comments to security included "Bite me. Woof, Woof" and "I'm proud to be kicked out, you jackass," were escorted from the room after standing to speak.
Their anger was directed at some members of the board, which gathered for the off-cycle meeting primarily to address a proposed resolution that would reopen former FBI director Louis Freeh's report. The report, released more than two years ago, was an investigation of the university's handling of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse case.
The proposal, introduced by board member Al Lord, was rejected after receiving nine votes in favor - all from the nine alumni-elected trustees - and 17 opposed.
After the meeting, even Lord said he was expecting the proposal's rejection.
In the private executive session of the board earlier that morning, Lord said, dissenting trustees indicated they may be in favor of the proposal. But, he said, they wanted to act at a later date.


"I said, 'You'd be willing to do what we're going to do but wait?' " Lord said.
The alumni-elected trustees, he said, will not give up on this issue.
As the trustees in favor of the proposal regroup and perhaps restrategize, Lord said he knows he has a legal right to access documents related to Freeh's report.
"For the board, ultimately, I thought it'd be better if it did it" as a group, he said.
Bob Jubelirer, an alumni-elected trustee, said he also expected the resolution board to reject the proposal. However, he said, that does not mean he was satisfied with them.
"I hate the way it went. It's awful this kind of thing continues to happen," Jubelirer said. "It's frustrating there are some trustees here who just won't yield."

Trustees opposed included Keith Eckel, a trustee elected by delegates from agricultural societies.

During the meeting, which ran a bit longer than the one hour Chairman Keith Masser had planned, Eckel said he urged the board to defeat the resolution because related civil and criminal cases are pending.
Richard Dandrea, a trustee elected by a board representing business and industry, agreed.
"We could not comprehensively evaluate the Freeh Report while these legal proceedings are pending," Dandrea said.

[EDIT...interestingly...Dicky would later contend that the resolution should be defeated because there WERE NOT any pending cases. You couldn't make this shit up if you tried]

Earlier in the meeting, when Lord was called to the front podium to discuss his proposal, he addressed board members who cited legal proceedings as a factor in their opposition.
"If you feel at all compromised by the various things going on in the legal world and you're on this board and concerned that you can't do the right thing," Lord said, "I would suggest to you that you resign."
The remarks drew applause from the crowd. The packed ballroom was not satisfied for long, though. The meeting was interrupted at least twice when those in the room stood up, wagged fingers and raised voices at the board.

Denise McClellan, who told security she would be honored to be kicked out, came back after the meeting and talked with Jubelirer, thanking him for his remarks at the meeting.
McClellan, an alumna, said she was angered by the way the meeting was set up for the crowded attendees.
"I know I was acting crazy and unruly," McClellan said. But "there was a gag order."
Masser had asked those in attendance, who filled nearly all the seats in the ballroom, not to participate in the proceedings.
After the meeting adjourned, Lord stepped outside the ballroom and got a drink water. A pile of folders and papers in hand, Lord said his thoughts regarding Freeh's report could be incorrect.
But, he said, their accuracy is impossible to ascertain without a reexamination.
"If you just continue," Lord said, "you'll never know."

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This was published in the Collegian before the November 14th meeting.....to give you a reminder of what the tenor was like at the time:

After receiving several threats, Penn State Police will have an added security presence at today's board of trustees meeting, according to a Penn State News release.
The meeting is scheduled for 1:30 p.m. at the Penn Stater Conference Center Hotel.
The board is set to discuss recently released emails regarding investigations into the university's handling of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse case and the NCAA's subsequent imposition of sanctions.
Meeting attendees are asked not to bring "large bags, backpacks, or oversized handbags " into the meeting, according to the release. If they do, they will have the bag searched or be asked to leave.
The security measures are not only a result of threats. They also stem from some board members' desire to "maintain appropriate decorum" at the meeting, according to release.
At a special board meeting last month to discuss reexamining the Freeh Report, several in attendance were escorted out after interrupting proceedings, standing and yelling to board members and security.
 
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That's a fair point, Barry, that Barron's "promise" may have been a ploy to buy some time until the expiration of all legal matters related to the Freeh Report. Especially when you add Dick Dandrea's words for context.

I'm open to that possibility, but Barron's promise was worded in a way that self-imposed a sense of public accountability. His silence since then betrays the commitment he made, seemingly resulting from a BOT-issued gag order.

Either way, the President is a puppet by design. The BOT hired him and they will fire him if he resists the great many evils that pervade the Board of Trustees, so I'm not sure what we should expect out of his position.

Ultimately, Barron's allegiance lies with the bad guys, so -- yeah -- he's probably gotta go when the good guys take control.
 
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That's a fair point, Barry, that Barron's "promise" may have been a ploy to buy some time until the expiration of all legal matters related to the Freeh Report.

I'm open to that possibility, but Barron's promise was worded in a way that self-imposed a sense of accountability to the public. His silence since then betrays the commitment he made, seemingly resulting from a BOT-issued gag order.

Either way, the President is a puppet by design. The BOT hired him and they will fire him if he resists the great many evils that pervade the Board of Trustees, so I'm not sure what we should expect out of his position. That being said, yeah, he's probably gotta go when the good guys take control.

I'm not convinced that he's got to go. I get the impression that, left to his own devices, he is & would be very genuinely interested in furthering the mission of the University (especially as it relates to expanding the role of entrepreneurship).

But, very much like you, I'm open to considering other ideas.
 
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That's a fair point, Barry, that Barron's "promise" may have been a ploy to buy some time until the expiration of all legal matters related to the Freeh Report. Especially when you add Dick Dandrea's words for context.

I'm open to that possibility, but Barron's promise was worded in a way that self-imposed a sense of public accountability. His silence since then betrays the commitment he made, seemingly resulting from a BOT-issued gag order.

Either way, the President is a puppet by design. The BOT hired him and they will fire him if he resists the great many evils that pervade the Board of Trustees, so I'm not sure what we should expect out of his position.

Ultimately, Barron's allegiance lies with the bad guys, so -- yeah -- he's probably gotta go when the good guys take control.
I view him more "evilly" than you do.....but, certainly, we agree that he is "no good"....and we would all be better off without him.
 
That's a fair point, Barry, that Barron's "promise" may have been a ploy to buy some time until the expiration of all legal matters related to the Freeh Report. Especially when you add Dick Dandrea's words for context.

I'm open to that possibility, but Barron's promise was worded in a way that self-imposed a sense of public accountability. His silence since then betrays the commitment he made, seemingly resulting from a BOT-issued gag order.

Either way, the President is a puppet by design. The BOT hired him and they will fire him if he resists the great many evils that pervade the Board of Trustees, so I'm not sure what we should expect out of his position.

Ultimately, Barron's allegiance lies with the bad guys, so -- yeah -- he's probably gotta go when the good guys take control.
Yep, he's gotta go, which begs a question....if he goes, does the Cal AD go with him?? (Oh please, oh please!!)
 
I'm not convinced that he's got to go. I get the impression that, left to his own devices, he is & would be very genuinely interested in furthering the mission of the University (especially as it relates to expanding the role of entrepreneurship).

But, very much like you, I'm open to considering other ideas.
Like most "University President" types (Bloviators)....Barron is proficient at making statements akin to "Clean Air is Good", and making it sound like he just miraculously discovered this and is sharing his brilliance with all of us.
He can sit there and repeat 1,000 times that he wants PSU to be affordable.....but if he doesn't have a good, workable plan who cares?
Kinda' like a beauty pageant contestant saying she is "for" World Peace. :)

We could discuss the "capabilities" of Barron as a University President at length.

But - without doing that at length - I could say that my viewpoint would be that he probably has the technical capabilities to adequately carry on in a role as an "Ok"/"meh" University President.....but no more.

Unfortunately, when it comes to the personal stuff....the character issues....we have seen, if we've been watching - both here and at FSU - that Barron is dreadfully lacking. Dreadfully

All in all, I would be shocked if Barron wouldn't - if given the opportunity - take the remaining $5 million + left on his contract, and move along. I guess that tells you how "committed" I think Kim Jong really is.
 
I view him more "evilly" than you do.....but, certainly, we agree that he is "no good"....and we would all be better off without him.

Barry, I think you might be genuinely surprised to find that a fair number of the folks who got us into this mess did not necessarily have "evil" intentions. However they definitely made choices that would be best described as being from the "the ends justify the means" school of thought. This is what is so chafing to Penn Staters, as it conflicts directly with our "do the right thing" values.
 
Barry, I think you might be genuinely surprised to find that a fair number of the folks who got us into this mess did not necessarily have "evil" intentions. However they definitely made choices that would be best described as being from the "the ends justify the means" school of thought. This is what is so chafing to Penn Staters, as it conflicts directly with our "do the right thing" values.[/QUOTE

Evil, maybe not. Low character, most definitely.
 
Barry, I think you might be genuinely surprised to find that a fair number of the folks who got us into this mess did not necessarily have "evil" intentions. However they definitely made choices that would be best described as being from the "the ends justify the means" school of thought. This is what is so chafing to Penn Staters, as it conflicts directly with our "do the right thing" values.

Oh....I wouldn't be surprised at all. In fact, I expect that is the case.

Just yesterday - along those lines - I wrote this:

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When it comes to failing to make a righteous stand, I am not that naïve or impractical that I cannot recognize that there are differences between:

Option 1 - "Being an active part of the Scoundrel's malfeasance".....eg. - The Kim Jong Barrons and the Dicky Dandreas

and

Option 2 - "Closing one's eyes to the reality and "going-along to get along""....eg - The bulk of the PSU Administrators and the "back row" BOT Sheep.

and

Option 3 - "Being selective is choosing which battles to fight....strategically opting to not stand up to every malfeasance in order to better position oneself to attack the greater issue"
 
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Oh....I wouldn't be surprised at all. In fact, I expect that is the case.

Just yesterday - along those lines - I wrote this:

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When it comes to failing to make a righteous stand, I am not that naïve or impractical that I cannot recognize that there are differences between:

Option 1 - "Being an active part of the Scoundrel's malfeasance".....eg. - The Kim Jong Barrons and the Dicky Dandreas

and

Option 2 - "Closing one's eyes to the reality and "going-along to get along""....eg - The bulk of the PSU Administrators and the "back row" BOT Sheep.

and

Option 3 - "Being selective is choosing which battles to fight....strategically opting to not stand up to every malfeasance in order to better position oneself to attack the greater issue"

At some point after all the actions they have taken those become distinctions without differences.
 
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This is speculation: The idea that Barron, a "disinterested party", would review the Freeh Report was likely a measured response to the alumni-elected trustees relentless pursuit of the Freeh materials (note: efforts for which I am eternally grateful) .

DING DING DING!!!!

It bought the Scoundrels some time (and probably "bought" the Bloviator a little bigger bonus)
Time that the Scoundrels used to cram down the "victim payouts".....so that they could then make the ludicrous claim that the FREEH REPORT was no longer of any import to any pending University business.

It ain't so hard if you follow along.
Agree Barry, in the context of the adversarial relationship between the elected trustees and the OGB that had reached a crescendo at the time, the move was meant to undercut some of the very vocal support for the elected trustees by offering a tempting alternative to Lubrano & Co's pursuit of the Freeh documentation. It was a MacArthur-esq kind of statement for Barron to make, suggesting he would singularly set aside fears of concealment of PSU misdeeds via his noble review. A lot of otherwise vocal alumni dissenters actually seemed relieved by this at the time, but of course we're still waiting for Barron's review to conclude a lack of guile on behalf of PSU. As to whether he was directed to do this or came up with it himself doesn't really matter, he was bound to fail either way.
 
C'mon fellows, Barron said he'd review the Freeh report on November 14th. This is only September 23rd. We have to make allowances for a slow reader. Give him time.
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They will get access to the raw Freeh files. That is a game-changer. Plus the Paterno suit will get momentum as will the Spanier suit. The writing is on the wall for those paying attention closely.

Is that your gut? or are you pretty confidant...because oh man...would that be incredible!
 
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