OSU QB Baldwin declares for transfer portal as well as USC QB

[Obliviax]

Washington State is the only one I could think off the top of my head that doesn't have a clear starter that has a system that could take advantage of his skill set, not to mention whatever interest there may or may not have been from last years transfer talk.

That would be a good fit for him. But it is a LONG way to WSU from Indiana. But you are right, he wouldn't have that big of a learning curve.

 

[dailybuck777]

One downside to the easy transfer rules for qbs is that there is a potential for team division and conflict. If I am a really good player on a legitimate contender for a national championship, I have to wonder if the apparent no. 2 qb will bail and negate all of my work towards a national championship by exposing the team to the risk of totally incompetent qb play. Lots of potential for division and conflict.

Also, Tate Martell saga is interesting. He was 23 of 28 as backup qb last year. Urban was always looking for ways to get him in games, and he was obviously valued by Urban. So far, he is off to a bad start at Miami and appears to be 3rd string. I understand that he was legitimately ticked by Fields coming, but OSU's system might have been better for him.

 

[Obliviax]

Some places where his chances would likely range from "Better than they would be at PSU", to "All but a Lock to Start - assuming he is healthy"

Possible P5 Programs *:

Georgia Tech
NC State
Vanderbilt
Kansas
Syracuse
Arkansas
Oklahoma State
Mississippi
Mississippi St
TCU
Tennessee

* Some of these programs may have already brought in Transfer QBs, which could change the dynamic

Mid-Majors:

Buffalo
Central Michigan
Ball State
Rice
Northern Illinois
Middle Tennessee
Miami (Ohio)


And probably a dozen or so more - maybe two dozen - if one really wanted to take a close and thorough look.

Thanks, great list. I didn't want to do the research so posted my post in the hopes that someone would do it for me!

IMHO, None of the top programs will guarantee Tommy a starting position with any certainty beyond what PSU would. The rest, GaTech/Vandy and the mid-majors, are not going to give him the exposure or experience he would want; but he may get a guarantee.

its a risky move on Tommy's part, and won that would appear to have been taken because he has bad news we are not aware of. Perhaps he sense preferential treatment by CJF, perhaps he was upset at PSU's healthcare regarding the ankle, perhaps he just saw another QB play better than he does, or something else.

 

[AWS1022]

One downside to the easy transfer rules for qbs is that there is a potential for team division and conflict. If I am a really good player on a legitimate contender for a national championship, I have to wonder if the apparent no. 2 qb will bail and negate all of my work towards a national championship by exposing the team to the risk of totally incompetent qb play. Lots of potential for division and conflict.

Also, Tate Martell saga is interesting. He was 23 of 28 as backup qb last year. Urban was always looking for ways to get him in games, and he was obviously valued by Urban. So far, he is off to a bad start at Miami and appears to be 3rd string. I understand that he was legitimately ticked by Fields coming, but OSU's system might have been better for him.

And being surrounded by mega talent helps make a QB look better as well.

 

[poker1]

One downside to the easy transfer rules for qbs is that there is a potential for team division and conflict. If I am a really good player on a legitimate contender for a national championship, I have to wonder if the apparent no. 2 qb will bail and negate all of my work towards a national championship by exposing the team to the risk of totally incompetent qb play. Lots of potential for division and conflict.

Also, Tate Martell saga is interesting. He was 23 of 28 as backup qb last year. Urban was always looking for ways to get him in games, and he was obviously valued by Urban. So far, he is off to a bad start at Miami and appears to be 3rd string. I understand that he was legitimately ticked by Fields coming, but OSU's system might have been better for him.

OTH, that gives disgruntled players unhappy in their roles an out, which tends to lessen team division and conflict.
It also tends to level the playing field, especially when a recruit has been overpromised - something OSU coaches may not like.

 

[IANit]

Very bad news for OSU -- Great News for PSU

Ohio State's second string qb, Mathew Baldwin, just went to the transfer portal. The only typically recruited qb that OSU has remaining is Justin Fields who didn't look great in the spring game. College football is going to be a very different game, if it is difficult to hang on to reasonably talented second string qbs. https://theozone.net/2019/04/ohio-state-qb-matthew-baldwin-placed-name-transfer-portal/

In one year OSU has gone from having a huge amount of depth (Haskins, Burrow, Martell & Baldwin) to none.

Thanks for cheering me up!

 

[canuckhal]

Some places where his chances would likely range from "Better than they would be at PSU", to "All but a Lock to Start - assuming he is healthy"

Possible P5 Programs *:

Georgia Tech
NC State
Vanderbilt
Kansas
Syracuse
Arkansas
Oklahoma State
Mississippi
Mississippi St
TCU
Tennessee

* Some of these programs may have already brought in Transfer QBs, which could change the dynamic

Mid-Majors:

Buffalo
Central Michigan
Ball State
Rice
Northern Illinois
Middle Tennessee
Miami (Ohio)


And probably a dozen or so more - maybe two dozen - if one really wanted to take a close and thorough look.

As of now, he would have a better chance of starting at any other program than Penn State.

 

[brupsu]

That would be a good fit for him. But it is a LONG way to WSU from Indiana. But you are right, he wouldn't have that big of a learning curve.

He thought they were bee-trothed

 

[screw44]

Yeah, sure, Stevens wants to go from possibly being a backup to Cliff to being a certain backup to Fields. That would be smart.

Not much competition. One snap away from starting. Fields did not look that good either.

 

[Thomas1945]

Not much competition. One snap away from starting. Fields did not look that good either.

The problem with that thinking is that the only people that don’t buy into the one snap away from starting theory are the back up quarterbacks.

 

[Obliviax]

Not much competition. One snap away from starting. Fields did not look that good either.

I predict, if they have a decent backup, Fields is not starting by mid-year. My tOSU friends are scared to death. He had an awful spring practice and poor spring game. On top of that, the circumstances on his transfer have them fearing he is fragile, mentally. A couple of bad games and he may crumble. I am told tOSU is saying one thing publicly, and another internally. The backup that is leaving via the portal wasn't a big time recruit. He as an add on after the QB they wanted flipped to FL.

1. The Buckeyes are shocked by Baldwin’s decision. A one-time Colorado State commit, the Buckeyes pulled Baldwin out of Texas late in the 2018 recruiting cycle. He committed on Dec. 7, 2017, as Emory Jones was wavering on his OSU pledge. Jones flipped to Florida two weeks later.

2. I’m always interested in recruiting backup quarterbacks, guys who can play if needed, but probably will never win a starting job and also won’t transfer if they don’t. That’s getting harder to do, and coaches never want to admit to it. But honestly, that’s what the Buckeyes thought they had in Baldwin. They’d call him a developmental QB, not a backup, but that was the idea.

3. Justin Fields was going to win this job. The Buckeyes talked competition, but Fields was the guy the minute he stepped on campus. If you believed otherwise, you were led astray. There was a belief that Baldwin wasn’t very close to being ready right now anyway, which isn’t a criticism, just a reality about a redshirt freshman who was the No. 331 national recruit in 2018. Fields was No. 2.

4. That’s why this transfer is surprising. Baldwin has no case for playing immediately, so he’ll sit out a year like a regular transfer. But if you can’t keep the No. 331 recruit in the nation happy as a redshirt freshman backup, how can you keep any backup happy? Baldwin wasn’t a demand-to-play guy. This is more about being homesick and the wrong fit, though we heard during recruiting how tight Baldwin and Day were.​

 

[djr4rebs]

Urban is not there. That alone is a cause for concern. You can spout of Day's 3-0 record, the high powered offense, his prowess, et Al, but you are a fool if you don't think those weeks had Urban's hands all over it.

A lot of the WR talent from last year is on course to be drafted. The QB as well. Fields was a better fit for Urban than what they supposedly want to run under Day. I don't think they fall to 7 losses under Fickle territory, but without Meyer I can't envision this being better than a 2 loss season.