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EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: Ohio State is screwed.
pretty sure we scored a TD in OT with that play (from a little bit different set, I don't think SB shifted as he did here) we got the give read there, and as they say the rest is history!!
what changes do I expect for next year. Well instead of stalking the C with the WR or TE, need to change that to the force defender. VS the Red team (I cant remember if the was Rutgers or IU) they supported the run via the S. If the TE had blocked the S on the first clip, we would have had an even better play.
It's a good analysis - IMO - and shows just how critical the play side G-C combo block is....... for 90% of the PSU run game
PSU's OL couldn't have executed that block one time out of ten over the last couple years (2014 and 2015)
In 2016, they were "OK".....but not at all great
This year - there's a pretty good chance, IMO, that they could be consistently good at executing that block (especially if Bates is back at LG......with Menet, McGovern, Gonzo on the mix at C and RG)
With Barkley in the backfield, this offense will score a lot of points..period. We've got a lot of good players but Barkley is the guy that turns them loose. With a better o-line, a couple of all-B1G WR's and an all B1G TE I don't know what you can do to stop it. People are just going to have to play a strait up Tampa 2, or whatever level balanced offense, and hope for the best.
Not only that, we are two deep. I've noticed Sanders is looking really, really strong. I think RB is our least depth position on offense, which is quite a statement to make.
Not only that, we are two deep. I've noticed Sanders is looking really, really strong. I think RB is our least depth position on offense, which is quite a statement to make.
Penned by a Class of 2020 Buckeye.
51 Things Ohio Staters Would Rather Do Than Attend Penn State
Mar 6, 2017
We're putting Happy Valley on notice.
Okay, Penn Staters. Slow your roll.
Yeah, you guys beat us this year. How cute. It took a comeback from 14 points down AND a fluke blocked field goal return to beat us. You guys won the B1G title and STILL couldn't take our spot in the playoffs. Who's your head coach again? Oh, and by the way, nobody really cared about that game. Y'all aren't Michigan. "Puck Menn State" doesn't sound right. We don't spend rivalry week blocking out every single "P" on campus. We don't call you "That Team Out East". You'll never be our rival. Oh, and we still lead the all-time series, 17-14. We're better than you.
Anyway, you all saw that "50 Things Penn Staters Would Rather Do Than Attend Ohio State" article, right? If not, give it a read. I got a good couple of laughs over it myself. We're not so different, you and I. Still, it's ludicrous to even think that Penn State might be on the same level as Ohio State. There's a reason why Penn State is just Penn State, but we are THE Ohio State University. Here's a better, longer list of what we Buckeyes would rather do than become Nittany Lions.
Full list here: https://www.theodysseyonline.com/51-things-ohio-staters-would-rather-do-than-attend-penn-state
51 Things Ohio Staters Would Rather Do Than Attend Penn State
Mar 6, 2017
We're putting Happy Valley on notice.
Okay, Penn Staters. Slow your roll.
Yeah, you guys beat us this year. How cute. It took a comeback from 14 points down AND a fluke blocked field goal return to beat us. You guys won the B1G title and STILL couldn't take our spot in the playoffs. Who's your head coach again? Oh, and by the way, nobody really cared about that game. Y'all aren't Michigan. "Puck Menn State" doesn't sound right. We don't spend rivalry week blocking out every single "P" on campus. We don't call you "That Team Out East". You'll never be our rival. Oh, and we still lead the all-time series, 17-14. We're better than you.
Anyway, you all saw that "50 Things Penn Staters Would Rather Do Than Attend Ohio State" article, right? If not, give it a read. I got a good couple of laughs over it myself. We're not so different, you and I. Still, it's ludicrous to even think that Penn State might be on the same level as Ohio State. There's a reason why Penn State is just Penn State, but we are THE Ohio State University. Here's a better, longer list of what we Buckeyes would rather do than become Nittany Lions.
Full list here: https://www.theodysseyonline.com/51-things-ohio-staters-would-rather-do-than-attend-penn-state
12. Spend a night in Jeffrey Dahmer's old room.
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Yep. And how did stealing that playoff spot turn out for Ohio St? They really showed the country they deserved it.
Its kinda sad what they hang their hats on, considering they only have that record due to some of the most blatantly bad calls of all time. Ohio State "leads" the series 17-14, but two of those wins (2003, 2014) were clearly gifted to OSU by the refs. So the true record should be 16-15 in favor of PSU.
Who wants to take bets for how long it takes the black helicopter, tinfoil hat OSU crowd that constantly monitor message boards for posts pointing out blatantly bad officiating that benefits OSU, to show up?
Who wants to take bets for how long it takes the black helicopter, tinfoil hat OSU crowd that constantly monitor message boards for posts pointing out blatantly bad officiating that benefits OSU, to show up?
Agreed, especially about the improved OL if they come back healthy. I expect Blacknall to have a breakout year replacing Godwin.
Good thing too. PSU's win over OSU was not a fluke because you have to consider special teams. But they gained more yards (413-276), got more first downs (19-13), and dominated time of possession (37:19-22:41). That's not normally a recipe for victory. Barkely had a lot of plays for zero or negative yards last year. An improved OL should turn those into 2-3 yard gains, more manageable 3rd down situations, and better time of possession.
On Notice for what? Don't newcomers put the big boys "on notice" that they are coming for them? If OSU is putting PSU on notice, that means they think PSU is better, no?
Regardless of his poor writing skills, he is correct. Penn State is no where on the same level as the Ohio State university. (lowercase added for emphasis)
-PSU players attend classes. http://deadspin.com/5949274/ohio-states-third-string-quarterback-aint-come-to-play-school
-PSU players don't sell their FB gear for tattoos http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=6607982
-PSU has never had a HC get ousted for NCAA violations at 2 different schools.
-OSU is located in Ohio...yuck. http://www.cleveland19.com/story/33941081/ohio-ranked-as-one-of-the-worst-states-to-live-in
-Even worse than Ohio...Columbus Ohio...what a sh*t hole that place is http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article29326078.html
Feel free to add on...
OSU's d-line was their strength last year and they kind of handled our O-line. tOSU's d-line will still be good but I expect our o-line to perform better in 2017. I think we will be better on offense in 2017 and better on defense too (as long as we don't suffer injuries at LBer).
No excuse for the offense but I'm not sure about the better on defense part. Cabinda is a good MLB. Bowen should improve but who knows. Cooper, Brown, Farmer, etc. are wildcards. T. Brown will get his chance at DE. Maybe Simmons. That could be a good group but it's unproven.
No, three deep. Don't forget Robinson who is a really, really good back and is really good running inside the tackles (which they'll be doing more this year).
I can't wait to see Sanders this fall. Barkley came into his soph year SO much stronger, just night and day. Sanders will probably have put on another 10 pounds of muscle, he'll be much stronger in the core, in his arms and more explosive.
I think this will be the best depth at running back since 1999 when they had Harris, McCoo, plus young Larry Johnson and Omar Easy.
If the OL gells the way everybody expects they can, it could be a very different PSU offense because they will be able to run at will on some people. They'll have the horses to handle more people with one-on-one blocks. They get in to 3rd and 2s, 3rd and 3s, and defenses will HAVE to pack the box to stop them which will open up all kinds of nice play-action to Gesicki down the middle.
Too lazy to look this up -- has PSU beaten Ohio State at the Shoe in the Big Ten era? All the PSU wins I recall were at the Beav.
Beating them in Columbus looms like Mt. Everest for this team. And Meyer is going to prepare like mad for PSU in the offseason. Every time PSU has beaten or nearly beaten those guys, they come back with a blowout, a statement win. They are going to be out for blood. Fortunately, PSU is going to be closer to athletic parity than has been the case for the last 20 years. PSU will have the horses to play with them -- it'll come down to execution.
Beating them in Columbus looms like Mt. Everest for this team. And Meyer is going to prepare like mad for PSU in the offseason. Every time PSU has beaten or nearly beaten those guys, they come back with a blowout, a statement win. They are going to be out for blood. Fortunately, PSU is going to be closer to athletic parity than has been the case for the last 20 years. PSU will have the horses to play with them -- it'll come down to execution.
Well, that game will probably be for the B1G East championship. I think we beat them in 2008 13-6. I think that was Pryor's freshman season. tOSU got beat up by USC and lost to us. tOSU ended up losing to #3 TX and we lost in the Rose to that very same USC team.
PSU dominated teams at the end of games, and was doing the same to OSU. If PSU didn't return the blocked FG for a TD, I still think PSU cruises to a win. If OSU hits the FG, which is highly unlikely since well... PSU blocked it, OSU only has a 7 point lead. Assuming OSU missed the FG, but PSU doesn't return for a TD, OSU is only up by 4 and PSU has amazing field position. The blocked FG just got it over faster, and is the best thing that ever happened to OSU since they can hide behind it.
PSU won there in 2008 and 2011. So not exactly Mt. Everest.
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It is worth noting that the entire tressel era is tainted because he cheated and lied about it to the media in front of his bosses. Of course, Tosu athletic supporters don't care about that. Not only did Tosu have the fired, cheating, show-cause tressel attend the 10th-anniversary tribute to the controversial 2003 national championship team, Tosu athletic supporters gave tressel a standing ovation.
Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.
Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.
Thanks. Maybe Mt. Rainier then. They can handle it.
It took you longer to type your question than it did for me to search google.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State–Penn_State_football_rivalry
You have to go all the way back to 2011 and 2008 for PSU wins at the shoe.
All-time
PSU is 7-11 at the shoe (2-9 in B1G play)
PSU is 6-7 at home (6-7 in B1G play)
PSU is 1-0 at neutral site
The problem with the full game stats is PSU lost an offensive possession because of the fg returned for a td and had a short field after the blocked punt so they weren't gaining yards or using clock even if they would've scored a td. Now if OSU got the punt off and we wouldn't have returned the fg for a td, we would've most likely had more yards, more time of possession, more first downs, and the stats are a lot closer. Add in the 12 yards lost on the kneel downs and the 30 yards lost on the bad punt snap and the stats line up with a close football game which it was at 21-14 before we blocked any kicks. If we're talking about flukes, we can re-examine the 2014 game with bounce ball interceptions, replay booths losing their video.. etc
are those stats correct? PSU is 6-7 at home (6-7 in B1G play) that means PSU has never played OSU at home outside of B1G play, correct? Yet I remember being at a game in 1976 vs OSU, and I am sure PSU was not in the B1G at that time.
while I agree with the 6-7 at home record vs OSU, I disagree with the 6-7 record in B1G play. PSU lost at home to OSU in 1976, and they were not in the B1G at that time.
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