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OT: Any roofers out there?

I did a few shingle projects in my life. Not for the weary. Feet burning, and drained from heat exhaustion. Quickly decided; no, thank you
I worked for my brother roofing for two summers after high school during semester breaks, etc. One smashing accident, fall, etc. My wife forbids me using any ladder for any purpose, she saw me fall from one another time as well. Not for the faint of heart nor those fearing head and spinal damage and fractures. My God bless all roofers.
 
We learned a lesson about homeowners insurance the hard way this spring when buying/selling homes. We had coverage through USAA for years and they have a lot of our business - car loans, home loan, credit cards, bank accounts, car insurance, home owners insurance, umbrella insurance, etc. We're very happy with them and the service. But, when we went to close on our new home, I called them to cancel the policy on our current home and to add one for the new home. Since the price of the new home was above what they cover with a traditional policy, we had to talk about using their partners. After a quick chat/review, we were told our application was rejected because we filed too many claims against our homeowners insurance previously. I was stunned. It is true we filed about four claims in three years, but all of them were related to the roof (this is on a new construction home less than 10 years old). The final claim resulted in a new roof (which was dilapidated due to wind/rain damage). During that time, our premiums never went up, our coverage never changed, and no one said anything about the perils of filing too many claims resulting in us being a 'high risk' client. To that point, I had never heard of the CLUE Report (which is basically the database of homeowner insurance claims and works similarly to a credit report - if you have too many, you're not worth covering, and it stays with you for 3-5 years).

Anyway, after hearing this and only days away from closing (and knowing our purchase of the new home requires us to have insurance), we called every company we could think of to get insurance - and they said the same thing - too high risk, too many claims. Fuming, I wrote a letter to USAA telling them that yes, while we're guilty of filing the claims, we were a) never advised against filing them, b) never had our premiums go up or coverage dropped, and c) had ever heard of CLUE. I also mentioned that the money they've spent in paying homeowners claims (less than $20,000 including the new roof) is small fries compared to what they've made off us. I received a call from a 'client advocate' who said they will personally review our case to see if the wrong decision was made. Ultimately, they sided with their 'statistics' and stood firm. We ended up getting coverage via our lender at the last minute which is fine, but I'll probably move back to USAA in a few years when the previous claims have dropped off the CLUE. Lesson learned. If the damage is less than catastrophic, don't file if you can help it.

That had to be stressful! Holy crap.

We have been shopping around to lower our insurance costs... we can lower our car insurance rates quite a bit, but our home owners goes up too much to make switching not worth it, and that includes rolling our umbrella policy as well. I wonder if having checking and savings with USAA would make a difference - we've been looking at doing that as well due to rates. Do you do a lot of travel? I ask because I've never seen a USAA bank to do in person banking?
 
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That had to be stressful! Holy crap.

We have been shopping around to lower our insurance costs... we can lower our car insurance rates quite a bit, but our home owners goes up too much to make switching not worth it, and that includes rolling our umbrella policy as well. I wonder if having checking and savings with USAA would make a difference - we've been looking at doing that as well due to rates. Do you do a lot of travel? I ask because I've never seen a USAA bank to do in person banking?

We do a lot of traveling and USAA is our primary bank, and there are one or two physical locations in/around Washington, DC (one in Arlington, one in Alexandria), but I've never found it too difficult to get anything done. We use another bank with more physical locations if we need to cash checks (that we're not able to deposit online) and just move funds back and forth. We never shopped around for homeowners insurance initially and just went with USAA because of our familiarity with them. So, no idea how their rates compared to others. But, when filing claims, we never had any issue and every contractor we worked with said USAA was 'the best'.
 
My family has been running a roofing business for over 40 years. It’s outside the Pittsburgh area.

I would highly recommend to use Owens Corning Duration shingles. We’ve been using those for years and consider those the best. I would also recommend not to shingle over your old shingles.

We charge 350-450 square tear off and put on maybe a little more if you live in a higher end area. Prices vary wherever you live. If you get the Amish or a construction company that has a bunch of illegals you can get it for cheaper and quality of work won’t be as good.

We’re one of the few companies that still hand nail. Most companies just nail guns to be faster but big probem with that is when you see big patches of roofs blown off it’s generally because people using nail guns shooting nails through the shingle or missing the wood altogether.

Last piece of advice don’t go with the cheapest bid. Generally the cheaper the bid you get the quality of work you get isn’t as good. You get what you pay for.
 
I would look into a metal roof and solar. It you are doing one, add the other.

I think every new house and every replacement roof should have solar on it to even get the permit. Builidng requirement. Over the course of 30 yrs..the entire country would have solar. Make it a building requirement.
 
I would look into a metal roof and solar. It you are doing one, add the other.

I think every new house and every replacement roof should have solar on it to even get the permit. Builidng requirement. Over the course of 30 yrs..the entire country would have solar. Make it a building requirement.
maybe if Musk becomes president lol
 
There are quite a few things to consider, almost too much to explain in a post like this. I'll cover some of it for you.
In my area I charge $290/sq for a single story, one layer tear off. This covers only labor and materials. No disposal, permits, or any damaged/rotten sheathing underneath.
My area has really cold winters so Ice dam protection is required 24" past inside wall of the dwelling. If your area doesn't require it, it may be cheaper.
This also covers only standard architectural shingles. I recommend Owens Corning Duration myself, but have and will install any brand of equal pricing.
If you can afford it though, I recommend using one of the Class 4 rated shingles. Malarkey Legacy, Duration Flex, etc. They are thicker and will not only last longer, they withstand higher winds and impacts.
Also, if you don't already have a company picked out, contact your local Shingle/Siding wholesale companies and ask for some references. In my experience they know and prefer to deal with contractors who know what they are doing.

Hope this helps a little.

Edit: Duration carries a 130 MPH wind warranty. After reading your post again I thought this may be worth adding.
If you shingle over old shingles is the warranty voided by the shingle company if it fails??
 
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