OT: ESPN OTL report on U of Rochester football players kidnapped, tortured

[TenerHallTerror]

WARNING: some of these details are pretty brutal.

But the story leaves a lot of unanswered question, especially about the coaching staff.

Draw your own parallels:

U of R Football player kidnapped and tortured for 40 hours

 

[Zenophile]

Horrific.

 

[Fayette_LION]

WARNING: some of these details are pretty brutal.

But the story leaves a lot of unanswered question, especially about the coaching staff.

Draw your own parallels:

U of R Football player kidnapped and tortured for 40 hours

That was brutal, drugs and revenge created a real disaster for that young man.

 

[ChiTownLion]

Kollias says he believes the Rochester coaching staff knew Smith was tangled up with drugs but chose to look the other way. Other players had faced harsh consequences when they violated rules, Kollias says. "Things happen, like drunk driving," he explains. "And when those things happened, usually the players were all kicked off of the team."

"The kids who were the better athletes were definitely on a longer leash," the other teammate says. "He was one of the best players on the team. He wasn't going to get kicked off the team."

 

[TenerHallTerror]

Kollias says he believes the Rochester coaching staff knew Smith was tangled up with drugs but chose to look the other way. Other players had faced harsh consequences when they violated rules, Kollias says. "Things happen, like drunk driving," he explains. "And when those things happened, usually the players were all kicked off of the team."

"The kids who were the better athletes were definitely on a longer leash," the other teammate says. "He was one of the best players on the team. He wasn't going to get kicked off the team."

I wish Bob would swing by and remind us that Penn State has a football culture problem

 

[Limestone_Lion]

My god was that brutal. No jail sentence will ever be enough punishment for something like this.

 

[MtNittany]

Sub-humans. On scholarship no less.

 

[RobBliz]

Legalize pot.

 

[BobPSU92]

Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.

 

[Creek Side]

Sounds like a movie script. Hard to believe this actually happens to people. Absolutely horrific.

 

[Diego Badman]

WARNING: some of these details are pretty brutal.

But the story leaves a lot of unanswered question, especially about the coaching staff.

Draw your own parallels:

U of R Football player kidnapped and tortured for 40 hours

Ugh. That's one of those stories that I wish I hadn't read. But, as horrifying as it is, this young man is inspirational.

 

[RochLion]

I remember hearing about that story. Don't remember hearing such a graphic nature of it though. Wow, frightening. Rochester, for the size town it is, has a pretty bad gang/criminal element.

 

[BobPSU92]

Sounds like a movie script. Hard to believe this actually happens to people. Absolutely horrific.

It is an awful story.

 

[kgilbert78]

I remember hearing about that story. Don't remember hearing such a graphic nature of it though. Wow, frightening. Rochester, for the size town it is, has a pretty bad gang/criminal element.

That scares me a bit, as my niece is a student at Rochester Institute of Technology.... Tho currently on co-ops for the next year.

 

[voltz99]

Legalize pot.

They did in many states. Still illegal to STEAL pot. Still need a license to sell. Do you think drug dealers with 8th grade educations will suddenly get degrees, licenses and open legal storefronts?

 

[massimoManca II]

That scares me a bit, as my niece is a student at Rochester Institute of Technology.... Tho currently on coops for the next year.

RIT is in it's own suburban cocoon in Henrietta, little risk there except for the proliferation of creepy techno-geeks ... much different than U of R's River Campus that is merely a pedestrian-bridge/a river away from the 19th Ward

 

[voltz99]

That was brutal, drugs and revenge created a real disaster for that young man.

No. The problem was the coaches, University President and university police covering up the initial crimes and not informing the students about the danger. The moron police did not even put 2+2 together. It was the roommate that tied the crimes. Colleges should not even have police departments. They should have some type of financial arrangement and the college PD budget should go to the local police for additional officers and a sub station on campus. .

 

[BUFFALO LION]

WARNING: some of these details are pretty brutal.

But the story leaves a lot of unanswered question, especially about the coaching staff.

Draw your own parallels:

U of R Football player kidnapped and tortured for 40 hours

How was he able to remember all of this without going through Repressed Memory Therapy??????

 

[Lyons212]

Sub-humans. On scholarship no less.

Rochester is a D3 football program, technically they are not on athletic scholarship. Most people at D3 schools, especially private ones are on some kind of scholarship.

 

[sluggo72]

Rochester is a D3 football program, technically they are not on athletic scholarship. Most people at D3 schools, especially private ones are on some kind of scholarship.

and that scholarship, in many cases is based on financial need of the parent, although there are some academic merit scholarships.

 

[demlion]

RIT is in it's own suburban cocoon in Henrietta, little risk there except for the proliferation of creepy techno-geeks ... much different than U of R's River Campus that is merely a pedestrian-bridge/a river away from the 19th Ward

Yeah, RIT students are more likely to send you a Ted Kaczynski mail bomb than cut you with a hedge clipper.

 

[Connorpozlee]

WARNING: some of these details are pretty brutal.

But the story leaves a lot of unanswered question, especially about the coaching staff.

Draw your own parallels:

U of R Football player kidnapped and tortured for 40 hours

That was deeply disturbing to read.
You know, I am not a proponent of the death penalty. But if I was, everybody involved in that torture would be qualified in my mind.

 

[RobBliz]

They did in many states. Still illegal to STEAL pot. Still need a license to sell. Do you think drug dealers with 8th grade educations will suddenly get degrees, licenses and open legal storefronts?

I think they will have no customers. Do you see a lot of people being shot over illegal booze?

 

[voltz99]

Liquor stores and bars get robbed all the time. Reality check.

 

[RochLion]

That scares me a bit, as my niece is a student at Rochester Institute of Technology.... Tho currently on coops for the next year.

Not a problem ... RIT doesn't have a football team. Kidding aside, though UofR and RIT are close distance wise RIT is very isolated and not near the city. Not saying you can't get into

RIT is in it's own suburban cocoon in Henrietta, little risk there except for the proliferation of creepy techno-geeks ... much different than U of R's River Campus that is merely a pedestrian-bridge/a river away from the 19th Ward

Yep ... although the campuses are just a few miles apart it's a totally different environment and clientele.

 

[massimoManca II]

Not a problem ... RIT doesn't have a football team. Kidding aside, though UofR and RIT are close distance wise RIT is very isolated and not near the city. Not saying you can't get into

Yep ... although the campuses are just a few miles apart it's a totally different environment and clientele.

Recall reading that the last time RIT offered football they was coached by Tom Coughlin

 

[massimoManca II]

Recall reading that the last time RIT offered football they was coached by Tom Coughlin

Holy crap i just typed that

 

[TenerHallTerror]

Recall reading that the last time RIT offered football they was coached by Tom Coughlin

do they play MCC's football team??

 

[massimoManca II]

do they play MCC's football team??

Don't laugh... couple years ago U discovered that Erie CC fields a FB squad...