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OT/FC: Fire breaks out at Notre Dame (Paris)....

Lots of garbage "click bait" in that link.

Probably, but the pictures of the interior after the fire are impressive

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Headed there this weekend, had planned to attend the 10am Gregorian Easter Mass at this amazing piece of history and architecture. As the Atlantic put it, it survived 8 centuries of plague, war, revolution, and the Nazis, and today we all watched it burn in real-time on our smartphones.

It wasn’t a terrorist attack and (thankfully) no one was hurt, but somehow this feels like a big loss.
 
Headed there this weekend, had planned to attend the 10am Gregorian Easter Mass at this amazing piece of history and architecture. As the Atlantic put it, it survived 8 centuries of plague, war, revolution, and the Nazis, and today we all watched it burn in real-time on our smartphones.

It wasn’t a terrorist attack and (thankfully) no one was hurt, but somehow this feels like a big loss.

It is a huge loss. It has me sick to my stomach and hopefully we get to see it built again.
These buildings are part of what make us who we are. Lets hope it gets built again exactly how it was and quickly.
 
Looks like the big rose window is in tact.

Laurent Valdiguié, a French journalist on the scene, reports that the north rose stained glass window – La Rosace Nord – “seems to have held”.

“On the street, on the ground, no debris of stained glass. Just old broken stones... ‘We stay worried,’ whispers a fireman,” he tweeted.
 
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It is a huge loss. It has me sick to my stomach and hopefully we get to see it built again.
These buildings are part of what make us who we are. Lets hope it gets built again exactly how it was and quickly.

Who "we" are? Did you care when ISIS took out temples and monuments of the Muslims that were thousands of years older than this? Food for thought.
 
Who "we" are? Did you care when ISIS took out temples and monuments of the Muslims that were thousands of years older than this? Food for thought.
The Muslim religion is about the same age as Notre Dame cathedral, so doubtful that there are any such “older” “monuments of the Muslims”.
 
Who "we" are? Did you care when ISIS took out temples and monuments of the Muslims that were thousands of years older than this? Food for thought.

I care when I watch ISIS blow up 1,000 year old statues of the Buddha. I care when I see Notre Dame Cathedral burn. I care when a religion that spawns extremism the world over - all of Saudi Arabi is an extremist sect of Islam called Wahabi, for example - turns on itself and attacks its own. So what’s your point? Also, Islam is like 1,500 years old, not THOUSANDS of years old. And Notre Dame Cathedral was 800 and some years old. So, again, what the hell is your point?
 
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Who "we" are? Did you care when ISIS took out temples and monuments of the Muslims that were thousands of years older than this? Food for thought.
Yes, very much so. Just one more reason to have attacked them.

As for we, none of “us” will be alive to see reconstruction complete.

In related news, the national cathedral in dc is going to have to take their fundraising scaffolding down and release their masons for more worthy work.
 
Who "we" are? Did you care when ISIS took out temples and monuments of the Muslims that were thousands of years older than this? Food for thought.

Very strange post here. If you don't think I was also disgusted by what was done in Palmyra, you are wrong.
There is not much food for thought here at all. As someone who is a catholic and also of western culture, I suppose "we" would mean most people here. Of course I was also disgusted and sickened by what happened at Palmyra and other places, but I really am confused what you are getting at.

So tell me, what the hell is your point?
 
The reason I asked about it still being a church, i.e. active with regular services and an actual congregation (everyone knows it is/was a church building), is that a few years ago I attended a Gideons dinner and the speaker was a frenchman who stated that there were (if I remember correctly) only 1000 active churches in all of France. Sad.
It's actually owned by the state still (from the Revolution) but the Catholic Church was given perpetual rights to operate it.
 
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Who "we" are? Did you care when ISIS took out temples and monuments of the Muslims that were thousands of years older than this? Food for thought.
Mohammed was born in 570 AD and founded the religion many years later:

In his late 30's, Muhammad took to regularly visiting a cave in Mount Hira, on the outskirts of Mecca, to seek solitude and contemplation. In 610, at the age of 40, Muhammad returned from one such visit telling his wife he had either gone mad or become a prophet, for he had been visited by an angel. The initially startled Khadija became his first convert.
 
The reason I asked about it still being a church, i.e. active with regular services and an actual congregation (everyone knows it is/was a church building), is that a few years ago I attended a Gideons dinner and the speaker was a frenchman who stated that there were (if I remember correctly) only 1000 active churches in all of France. Sad.

From some report I read, apparently there was some sort of mass going on when the fire broke out. The police had to tell the priests that it was not a joke, and that there was a real fire and everybody had to vacate.
 
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I am just thankful that in such a big fire, nobody was hurt. Walls can be rebuilt, new windows can be stained, new artists can paint pictures. If the human cost is 0 lives lost than that is a good thing.
 
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Like $500 million in commitments already. They will have plenty of money to rebuild.

Best coverage of this that I can find in English is the Manchester Guardian (thegardian.co.uk)
 
True! A church is made of people, not wood, glass and paint.

Perhaps, but in this case, it is also part of the soul of who we are as a civilization.
Part of who we are and where we were and what we have achieved.

Those things are priceless and those things are not just wood, glass and paint.

I understand your sentiments, but I think it sort of a complete discount of what this truly was.
Palmyra was similar if not greater. It will never be rebuilt. No human will ever see it again as it was.
I hope that isn't the case for this. (i suspect it wont be)
 
Actually, the stone construction did more to save it than the ancient wood did to make it go ablaze.
 
Looks like you were at the back of line when they were handing out brains.

When you stop your clown posts. . .

More stupid from dwiz.

You directed the above three posts, all from this particular thread, to three different Board members. I wasn't one of them, but I could not help noticing a recurring theme with your posts, not just in this thread but in other threads as well. .You go after individual posters personally rather than commenting substantively on what they have to say. Maybe you should seek counseling.
 
You directed the above three posts, all from this particular thread, to three different Board members. I wasn't one of them, but I could not help noticing a recurring theme with your posts, not just in this thread but in other threads as well. .You go after individual posters personally rather than commenting substantively on what they have to say. Maybe you should seek counseling.
Should work a deal with several others and get a group therapy session going.
 
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