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OT: Fogle Now A Suspect.

back "in the day", much of porn could qualify as kid porn simply because the girls were legally underage. when most of us define child porn it involves sex with someone very young (under 10) when, in fact, it really comes down to someone under the age of 18. So technically, a child porn collection of kids under 10 is no different than one having kids who are nearly 18 years old.

And the point is that his legendary collection might have actors under 18 but none who were very young. I post this only because a suggestion was made that someone into 'regular porn' isn't likely to devolve into kiddie porn... that is true, but it's quite possible his porn interests were on borderline girls (or boys) hovering near the 18 year old mark. Still "porn" but likely viewed a bit differently.

although "viewed" is the issue...

There's nothing "technical" about it. If you think that there is some kind of difference between porn that features a 13 year old girl and porn that features a 10 year old girl, then you need help.
 
There's nothing "technical" about it. If you think that there is some kind of difference between porn that features a 13 year old girl and porn that features a 10 year old girl, then you need help.

I took him as meaning, in the eyes of the law, it's child porn whether it involves a 17 y/o or an 8 y/o. Maybe I read it wrong.
 
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If someone had nudes of the youngest Kardashian (I don't remember her name) it is technically child porn, but nobody would confuse her with a 10 year old
 

hey, if you can find where i compared 13 and under 10... let me know. now, i did say there was a difference between a kid just under 18 (quite common, especially in the old days) versus under 10... while in the eyes of the law, they're the same, in front of a jury of one's peers, i'd wager the punishment would be different. and yes, the age of the offender would enter it, too.
 
hey, if you can find where i compared 13 and under 10... let me know. now, i did say there was a difference between a kid just under 18 (quite common, especially in the old days) versus under 10... while in the eyes of the law, they're the same, in front of a jury of one's peers, i'd wager the punishment would be different. and yes, the age of the offender would enter it, too.

The most famous case of this was in the 1980's. Her handle was Traci Lords. She was 15 at the time and fooled many 'experts' in the business as it were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords

For over two years she was photographed nude and appeared in porno flicks, all of which became child porn after her true age was discovered in 1986.

She was a 15 year old posing and being accepted as a 22 year old!
 
The most famous case of this was in the 1980's. Her handle was Traci Lords. She was 15 at the time and fooled many 'experts' in the business as it were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords

For over two years she was photographed nude and appeared in porno flicks, all of which became child porn after her true age was discovered in 1986.

She was a 15 year old posing and being accepted as a 22 year old!

correctomundo (and they did one helluva job locking down every movie she did... results were amazing). nobody had a clue.. and frankly, virtually nobody gave a damn, neither.
 
You do? Based on?


He ran a porn business out of his dorm room. He became SlubWay's spokesman. How did they not discover what he was doing? He fooled all of America with his BS. That "walking miles" to get to a SlubWay was more BS. No one knew it was on the bottom floor of his dorm?

Guy's a conman.
 
He ran a porn business out of his dorm room. He became SlubWay's spokesman. How did they not discover what he was doing? He fooled all of America with his BS. That "walking miles" to get to a SlubWay was more BS. No one knew it was on the bottom floor of his dorm?

Guy's a conman.

The guy who keeps getting banned, making multiple usernames to "come back", and cannot engage in logical debate is casting judgement.

LOL
 
He ran a porn business out of his dorm room. He became SlubWay's spokesman. How did they not discover what he was doing? He fooled all of America with his BS. That "walking miles" to get to a SlubWay was more BS. No one knew it was on the bottom floor of his dorm?

Guy's a conman.

Maybe you're unsure of what a conman is then. What does running a business (any business, including a porn business) have to do with him being a conman? People paid him to rent (borrow) his porn. That's not a con. And who did he con when he said he lost weight by eating Subway sandwiches? The guy literally ate nothing but Subway sandwiches and lost weight. That's what both he and Subway claimed. Where's the con here?
 
Maybe you're unsure of what a conman is then. What does running a business (any business, including a porn business) have to do with him being a conman? People paid him to rent (borrow) his porn. That's not a con. And who did he con when he said he lost weight by eating Subway sandwiches? The guy literally ate nothing but Subway sandwiches and lost weight. That's what both he and Subway claimed. Where's the con here?


He conned people to rent his rubbish. He conned SubWay into making him his spokesperson, even though he was a perv. You think he wasn't watching his own porn? While his waist grew smaller, his right arm grew bigger.
 
Check out the list of people he conned in the article. He even Conned the President of the United States.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/08/us/jared-fogle-profile-subway/

I read the article and it doesn't mention a single instance about him being untruthful or any con he pulled. Either you're nothing more than a troll, or you are almost intellectually disabled. I'm not even going to give you the benefit of the doubt because I don't even think you deserve it. I think you're actually both. You're both a troll and somebody with an IQ that is about a notch above what our society considers somebody who needs disability assistance because your mental capacity is below our social standards. I doubt very seriously whether you're capable of living in our society without some assistance, though. Intellectually bankrupt would actually be a compliment and an upgrade in your case but I won't give you that label because I doubt whether you know what either of those words mean.

With that being said, please don't let this response stop you from continuing to post here. I wouldn't want the readers of BWI to be deprived of your responses and the laughter that they incite. At best you're a court jester.

And because you're probably confused as to what I wrote and what it actually means, I'll tell you. I'm insulting you. Everything I wrote above is an insult to your intelligence.
 
I read the article and it doesn't mention a single instance about him being untruthful or any con he pulled. Either you're nothing more than a troll, or you are almost intellectually disabled. I'm not even going to give you the benefit of the doubt because I don't even think you deserve it. I think you're actually both. You're both a troll and somebody with an IQ that is about a notch above what our society considers somebody who needs disability assistance because your mental capacity is below our social standards. I doubt very seriously whether you're capable of living in our society without some assistance, though. Intellectually bankrupt would actually be a compliment and an upgrade in your case but I won't give you that label because I doubt whether you know what either of those words mean.

With that being said, please don't let this response stop you from continuing to post here. I wouldn't want the readers of BWI to be deprived of your responses and the laughter that they incite. At best you're a court jester.

And because you're probably confused as to what I wrote and what it actually means, I'll tell you. I'm insulting you. Everything I wrote above is an insult to your intelligence.


You're only insulting yourself. He fooled many people. Sound familiar?
 
I read more about his history yesterday and he didn't say he lost weight by walking from the start, rather the walking didn't come until he had lost a considerable amount of weight and was able to be more mobile. So that's not a con nor does it make sense to con on that because if he lost weight only on Subway and not with walking too, that actually makes the people paying him (Subway) look better.

And as far as conning Subway into hiring him, Subway came to him after they noticed an a story about him losing weight while eating only Subway. It's not like he sought them out.
 
I read more about his history yesterday and he didn't say he lost weight by walking from the start, rather the walking didn't come until he had lost a considerable amount of weight and was able to be more mobile. So that's not a con nor does it make sense to con on that because if he lost weight only on Subway and not with walking too, that actually makes the people paying him (Subway) look better.

And as far as conning Subway into hiring him, SubWay came to him after they noticed an a story about him losing weight while eating only Subway. It's not like he sought them out.


You misunderstood. Fogle claimed he walked from his dorm everyday to a subway two or 3 miles away, when in fact, he took the elevator to the bottom floor of his dorm where there was a SubWay. Whether or not he approached SubWay, or they approached him, they failed to check his background. In essence, he conned them. He conned people who went for his spiel. He conned the student newspaper with his tales.
 
You misunderstood. Fogle claimed he walked from his dorm everyday to a subway two or 3 miles away, when in fact, he took the elevator to the bottom floor of his dorm where there was a SubWay. Whether or not he approached SubWay, or they approached him, they failed to check his background. In essence, he conned them. He conned people who went for his spiel. He conned the student newspaper with his tales.

Not according to what I read. I read he said he didn't start the walking bit until after he had already lost a fair amount of weight by eating only Subway. He weighed 425 pounds at the start so it's unlikely anyone would believe he was walking 5 miles round trip twice a day at that weight.

That's what I read at least. Google it yourself and see what you can find.
 
Not according to what I read. I read he said he didn't start the walking bit until after he had already lost a fair amount of weight by eating only Subway. He weighed 425 pounds at the start so it's unlikely anyone would believe he was walking 5 miles round trip twice a day at that weight.

That's what I read at least. Google it yourself and see what you can find.


I believe you. Lots of articles popping up about him now. The ones I saw, including some from interviewing people from his dorm put a lid on the 2-3 mile walk a day tale.
 
Does anyone else find it ironic/funny that a guy with a handle of Jim Cummings was commenting on this thread?
 
That's what I am seeing too.....plus a kids charity suspended their relationship, which is to be expected. So far, from what I am seeing, his stuff is being vetted with his business associates to see if he was involved. We'll see. I am hesitant to condemn him until things get clarified.

And as to having a porn collection while in college; who didn't have one? My roommate had a collage of playboy and penthouse centerfolds stapled to the entire ceiling of our dorm room.

sweet dreams in the dorm Obliviax ??:p
 
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The new format and posting lately is killing this board. Almost every time I click into an active thread with a lot of posts it turns out to be a complete shiat show.
 
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Jared Fogle released a statement on behalf of his foundation, saying it was severing ties with Taylor. However, a family member of Taylor who didn’t want to be identified, claims that’s not the case.
According to the family member, Fogle continued to privately support Taylor, and was even involved in bailing him out of jail.

http://wishtv.com/2015/07/07/former...tact-after-child-porn-charges-family-alleges/

Taylor’s attorney would not say why, but did say it’s possible that Taylor is working with prosecutors and against Fogle.

“There could be any number of reasons. One that you asked about is a possibility that the prosecutor needed more time to do an investigation. Any number that could occur. The next phase in any federal prosecution is to present the case to a grand jury to see if they return an indictment on any charges. It’s that process that has been extended at this point,” said Banks.
Taylor faces seven counts of producing child pornography and one count of possession of child pornography. Authorities recovered more than 500 videos in connection with the case
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As previously discussed, Russell Taylor ran Jared Fogle's foundation and was arrested back in April on multiple counts including production of child pornongraphy.

"An April 29 search of Taylor's Indianapolis home that collected computers and storage devices eventually revealed over 400 videos, most showing nude or partially nude children unaware they were being filmed in bedrooms and bathrooms in Taylor's homes between 2012 and 2013, police said in the charging documents. Three of the children depicted – two girls and a boy – have a known relationship to Taylor and would sleep over at various times, the document states. A fourth child, a girl "not related" to Russell, also slept at the home on occasion.
Based on time stamps, police estimated the ages of the children were between 9 and 16."


Link: http://www.people.com/article/jared-foundation-director-russell-taylor-child-porn-charges?xid=rss-topheadlines
 
Jared Fogle released a statement on behalf of his foundation, saying it was severing ties with Taylor. However, a family member of Taylor who didn’t want to be identified, claims that’s not the case.
According to the family member, Fogle continued to privately support Taylor, and was even involved in bailing him out of jail.

http://wishtv.com/2015/07/07/former...tact-after-child-porn-charges-family-alleges/

I do believe that guilt by association is a lousy and inadvisable long-term strategy for you tree climbers. Stick to the facts. Don't stoop to innuendo. Certainly do not be linking to the statements of know perps or their supporters.

If you folks cannot resolve to use a little discretion you are going to be branded with a "boy cries wolf" label.

I realize you feel that you have endured worse than that. But, consider it a well-intentioned piece of advice.

Taylor’s attorney would not say why, but did say it’s possible that Taylor is working with prosecutors and against Fogle.

“There could be any number of reasons. One that you asked about is a possibility that the prosecutor needed more time to do an investigation. Any number that could occur. The next phase in any federal prosecution is to present the case to a grand jury to see if they return an indictment on any charges. It’s that process that has been extended at this point,” said Banks.
Taylor faces seven counts of producing child pornography and one count of possession of child pornography. Authorities recovered more than 500 videos in connection with the case
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As previously discussed, Russell Taylor ran Jared Fogle's foundation and was arrested back in April on multiple counts including production of child pornongraphy.

"An April 29 search of Taylor's Indianapolis home that collected computers and storage devices eventually revealed over 400 videos, most showing nude or partially nude children unaware they were being filmed in bedrooms and bathrooms in Taylor's homes between 2012 and 2013, police said in the charging documents. Three of the children depicted – two girls and a boy – have a known relationship to Taylor and would sleep over at various times, the document states. A fourth child, a girl "not related" to Russell, also slept at the home on occasion.
Based on time stamps, police estimated the ages of the children were between 9 and 16."


Link: http://www.people.com/article/jared-foundation-director-russell-taylor-child-porn-charges?xid=rss-topheadlines
 
Jared Fogle released a statement on behalf of his foundation, saying it was severing ties with Taylor. However, a family member of Taylor who didn’t want to be identified, claims that’s not the case.
According to the family member, Fogle continued to privately support Taylor, and was even involved in bailing him out of jail.

http://wishtv.com/2015/07/07/former...tact-after-child-porn-charges-family-alleges/

Taylor’s attorney would not say why, but did say it’s possible that Taylor is working with prosecutors and against Fogle.

“There could be any number of reasons. One that you asked about is a possibility that the prosecutor needed more time to do an investigation. Any number that could occur. The next phase in any federal prosecution is to present the case to a grand jury to see if they return an indictment on any charges. It’s that process that has been extended at this point,” said Banks.
Taylor faces seven counts of producing child pornography and one count of possession of child pornography. Authorities recovered more than 500 videos in connection with the case
***************************************************

As previously discussed, Russell Taylor ran Jared Fogle's foundation and was arrested back in April on multiple counts including production of child pornongraphy.

"An April 29 search of Taylor's Indianapolis home that collected computers and storage devices eventually revealed over 400 videos, most showing nude or partially nude children unaware they were being filmed in bedrooms and bathrooms in Taylor's homes between 2012 and 2013, police said in the charging documents. Three of the children depicted – two girls and a boy – have a known relationship to Taylor and would sleep over at various times, the document states. A fourth child, a girl "not related" to Russell, also slept at the home on occasion.
Based on time stamps, police estimated the ages of the children were between 9 and 16."


Link: http://www.people.com/article/jared-foundation-director-russell-taylor-child-porn-charges?xid=rss-topheadlines


I do believe that guilt by association is a lousy and inadvisable long-term strategy for you tree climbers. Stick to the facts. Don't stoop to innuendo. Certainly do not be linking to the statements of know perps or their supporters.

If you folks cannot resolve to use a little discretion you are going to be branded with a "boy cries wolf" label.

I realize you feel that you have endured worse than that. But, consider it a well-intentioned piece of advice.
 
I do believe that guilt by association is a lousy and inadvisable long-term strategy for you tree climbers. Stick to the facts. Don't stoop to innuendo. Certainly do not be linking to the statements of know perps or their supporters.

If you folks cannot resolve to use a little discretion you are going to be branded with a "boy cries wolf" label.

I realize you feel that you have endured worse than that. But, consider it a well-intentioned piece of advice.

Respectfully, I merely linked an interview/article related to the topic. I did not make any declarations nor assumptions but rather provided the information so that others may be informed and up to date.

Thank you,
Roxine
 
They knew. They all knew. Shut down IU(Porn U now), and SubWay. Shut them down. Subway food is just gross anyway, he probably lost all that weight because it gave him diarrhea from eating too much of it.


LMAO!!!!!!!!
 
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