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OT: If you could pick any profession, what would you choose today?

Hey guys....I guess it is a common feeling amongst solos and small firm attorneys. I have not practiced quite as long as both of you. Only about 20 years here.....about 10 in a big firm defending docs and hospitals in med mal cases and about 10 as a solo representing everyday folks in all sorts of matters from divorce, custody, personal injury, etc. Over the years my satisfaction with the profession has continued to decrease. ... you come to the sobering realization that lawyering is not what its all cracked up to be. And to think that I have not even touched on the lack of civility that exists in the legal profession today..... UGHHHH...rant over!

I would have gone into architectural engineering. I had wanted to be an architect, but didn't have the artistic skills to make it through such a major at the time before computer graphics. My sister's boyfriend was an architecture major and I was wowed by project he did, and then got a D on. I also was very good in mathematics as well and took a lot of classes with the engineering majors my freshman year, almost switching to EE during my sophomore year, but a trip to the hospital to have my appendix removed is what changed my mind.

Lighthouse commented "Its funny because many believe that attorneys make a fortune but when you consider what your effective hourly rate is after considering all of the hours that you work on stuff for free (i.e. pro bono work, administrative work, work for clients that stiff you, etc)."

Well, I was one of the unlucky ones to get accepted to medical school (lucky at the time but in hindsight not so lucky now). I did not go into medical school to make money, unlike a lot of the more recent grads. I knew I would have a somewhat difficult lifestyle, but would have decent financial compensation to offset it. Once I finally got into practice after 4 years of medical school and 6 years of residency and fellowship training, I saw reimbursement reduced every year since then (1990). We have found out that for approximately 40% of the ER patients encountered, we do not get paid one cent (self-pays, aka no-pays and insurance denials). I work twice as hard now as when I started (which is true statistically speaking per RVU figures), I estimated I have worked approximately 470 weekends since starting medicine, averaged 2-3 holidays worked per year, average close to 60 hours per week and numerous sleepless nights on call over the years.

Lighthouse stated "Add this to the regular stresses of practicing law and the administrative responsibilities associated with running a practice, your life outside of work can quickly disappear."

I feel like I constantly have a target on my back (as Lighthouse I'm sure knows) and have seen numerous crazy lawsuits colleagues of mine have gone through. The stress of these actually ended making some of them physically ill. One of my associates currently has a claim for reading an x-ray of a casted arm fracture, because the cast caused a burn to the patient from the underlying chemical reaction of the plaster curing. He had nothing to do with patient other than reading the film since it was another specialist who the treated the fracture and put on the cast. I have been named in a couple of suits that were eventually dropped due to lack of any shred of evidence of wrongdoing, but the stress I went through was unbelievable. Nothing like waking up Saturday morning to find your name on the front page of the local newspaper for being named in a lawsuit before you even were served the papers. Then the claim makes you look like you were the worst serial killer ever to set foot on the planet. I understand now what this is all about, since one of my best friends is an attorney. To them it is business, and they don't feel bad at all describing the defendant in that type of fashion, because that is the way it is done.

Now there is the huge amount of local, state and Federal government regulations that have been heaped upon running a medical practice over the years. The amount of UNcompensated time to spend on these regulations in addition to routine business responsibilities such as negotiating with insurance companies has become ridiculous. Obamacare just piled on more regs with 26,000 pages of already written regulations and still counting. Added to this morass is the new upcoming ICDM-10 diagnosing coding (Waterskis caught on fire, return visit - yes this is a code!).

Finally - "If I had to do it over again I'd move to Nashville and would become a studio musician (guitar is my passion) and I would have loved every minute of it! "

Guitar is also my passion and I was in a band for awhile during medical school, but the time spent studying and class, etc. just made it possible for us to stay together. We were starting to get some regular gigs, but had to just stop because there was no longer any time for it. We played at JB's Down in Kent, Ohio, a pretty famous place that was a starting venue for some very famous musicians (doesn't exist anymore). But I realized that making it in the music industry was a huge longshot and I know some very talented people who just couldn't get near the top, so I stayed with plan A. I do play guitar as a hobby and now use my creativity, something that practicing medicine doesn't really use much, to hand build guitar effects pedals. But even that is a tough business to break into due to the number of talented people doing that as well.

Well - my rant is over as well!
 
I can't think of a better degree for me than forest science. Only other area I would have considered is economics or industrial engineering. From a jobs standpoint, the IE degree would have been an easier road.

But, mine is more about a lifestyle. The dollars came later in my career as my skill level improved. I could go to work and watch the sun come up. I didn't wear a suit or have to deal with a bunch of people or office politics. A low level of stress, with no midnight phone calls and few deadlines. There weren't a myriad of non-productive office meetings. Out the door by 6 AM, back by 4 PM. The only downside is you had to enjoy the solitude, which I did. Even when I moved to sawmills, it was the same level where you were paid for performance, not attendance.

It came with a rural lifestyle where I didn't have to bust my butt in heavy traffic every day to get to work. There was no need to get a gym membership, since you had a pretty good workout during the day. Always had time to smell the flowers.
 
I can't think of a better degree for me than forest science. Only other area I would have considered is economics or industrial engineering. From a jobs standpoint, the IE degree would have been an easier road.

But, mine is more about a lifestyle. The dollars came later in my career as my skill level improved. I could go to work and watch the sun come up. I didn't wear a suit or have to deal with a bunch of people or office politics. A low level of stress, with no midnight phone calls and few deadlines. There weren't a myriad of non-productive office meetings. Out the door by 6 AM, back by 4 PM. The only downside is you had to enjoy the solitude, which I did. Even when I moved to sawmills, it was the same level where you were paid for performance, not attendance.

It came with a rural lifestyle where I didn't have to bust my butt in heavy traffic every day to get to work. There was no need to get a gym membership, since you had a pretty good workout during the day. Always had time to smell the flowers.
I guess the switch in format hasn't affected our ability to post very cool stuff. Very much appreciated, Gump.
 
I am a chemist who never really worked in the lab, and went into chemical sales and overall business management for chemical companies my whole career. I was a Pre-Med major at Penn State, but did not get into Med School. As much as I still wanted to be a medical doctor most of my career, I now have no regrets having worked in the specialty chemicals industry as I feel like I have learned so much over the years. Many people however wish they did something other than the fields they ended up in. Other than wanting to be the best athlete in a professional sports league (who wouldn't), what would you have chosen?

I wish I had been a Pet-E instead of an EE. Then I wish I had formed a podunk little oil company and bought up and wildcatted on hundreds of worthless little oil and gas claims all over upstate PA. Then I would have sold said worthless claims to a mammoth international oil company for billions of dollars. If I had it to do all over again that's what I'd do.
 
Jim Nantz...do pro football, ncaa hoops, do the final four on a Monday and play at Augusta on Tuesday...play golf all summer, get 4-5 million...and start the NFL in September all over again...not even a contest.
 
I would have gone into architectural engineering. I had wanted to be an architect, but didn't have the artistic skills to make it through such a major at the time before computer graphics. My sister's boyfriend was an architecture major and I was wowed by project he did, and then got a D on. I also was very good in mathematics as well and took a lot of classes with the engineering majors my freshman year, almost switching to EE during my sophomore year, but a trip to the hospital to have my appendix removed is what changed my mind.

Lighthouse commented "Its funny because many believe that attorneys make a fortune but when you consider what your effective hourly rate is after considering all of the hours that you work on stuff for free (i.e. pro bono work, administrative work, work for clients that stiff you, etc)."

Well, I was one of the unlucky ones to get accepted to medical school (lucky at the time but in hindsight not so lucky now). I did not go into medical school to make money, unlike a lot of the more recent grads. I knew I would have a somewhat difficult lifestyle, but would have decent financial compensation to offset it. Once I finally got into practice after 4 years of medical school and 6 years of residency and fellowship training, I saw reimbursement reduced every year since then (1990). We have found out that for approximately 40% of the ER patients encountered, we do not get paid one cent (self-pays, aka no-pays and insurance denials). I work twice as hard now as when I started (which is true statistically speaking per RVU figures), I estimated I have worked approximately 470 weekends since starting medicine, averaged 2-3 holidays worked per year, average close to 60 hours per week and numerous sleepless nights on call over the years.

Lighthouse stated "Add this to the regular stresses of practicing law and the administrative responsibilities associated with running a practice, your life outside of work can quickly disappear."

I feel like I constantly have a target on my back (as Lighthouse I'm sure knows) and have seen numerous crazy lawsuits colleagues of mine have gone through. The stress of these actually ended making some of them physically ill. One of my associates currently has a claim for reading an x-ray of a casted arm fracture, because the cast caused a burn to the patient from the underlying chemical reaction of the plaster curing. He had nothing to do with patient other than reading the film since it was another specialist who the treated the fracture and put on the cast. I have been named in a couple of suits that were eventually dropped due to lack of any shred of evidence of wrongdoing, but the stress I went through was unbelievable. Nothing like waking up Saturday morning to find your name on the front page of the local newspaper for being named in a lawsuit before you even were served the papers. Then the claim makes you look like you were the worst serial killer ever to set foot on the planet. I understand now what this is all about, since one of my best friends is an attorney. To them it is business, and they don't feel bad at all describing the defendant in that type of fashion, because that is the way it is done.

Now there is the huge amount of local, state and Federal government regulations that have been heaped upon running a medical practice over the years. The amount of UNcompensated time to spend on these regulations in addition to routine business responsibilities such as negotiating with insurance companies has become ridiculous. Obamacare just piled on more regs with 26,000 pages of already written regulations and still counting. Added to this morass is the new upcoming ICDM-10 diagnosing coding (Waterskis caught on fire, return visit - yes this is a code!).

Finally - "If I had to do it over again I'd move to Nashville and would become a studio musician (guitar is my passion) and I would have loved every minute of it! "

Guitar is also my passion and I was in a band for awhile during medical school, but the time spent studying and class, etc. just made it possible for us to stay together. We were starting to get some regular gigs, but had to just stop because there was no longer any time for it. We played at JB's Down in Kent, Ohio, a pretty famous place that was a starting venue for some very famous musicians (doesn't exist anymore). But I realized that making it in the music industry was a huge longshot and I know some very talented people who just couldn't get near the top, so I stayed with plan A. I do play guitar as a hobby and now use my creativity, something that practicing medicine doesn't really use much, to hand build guitar effects pedals. But even that is a tough business to break into due to the number of talented people doing that as well.

Well - my rant is over as well!
BigO: Wow, I guess maybe not getting accepted into Medical School was a blessing in disguise :)

Honestly though, even though the hourly rate for all you do is probably not as attractive as many think, it is still an honor to be a Medical Doctor in my eyes. I don't know what your specialty is, but you are one of a chosen group of people who can perform certain medical practices that are for the well-being of others. That has to be rewarding in it's own right. What I develop in the chemical industry are new and novel chemical mixes or processes that help certain industries, and although that is rewarding at times, I am not saving lives. Everything needs to be put in perspective..

There are times when I think that having been a commercial pilot for a major airline may be fun, I see how this can be tedious as well as frightening when you consider you have 2-300 lives depending on your successful navigation. Overall, the grass is probably greener on the other side, and regardless of what we all do for a living, we all need to try to find the positive side of where we are now. If there aren't any positives, then is the time to start looking at changing your profession!
 
Pennsylvania Lieutenant Governor. Absolute obscurity and get your money for nothin or a rock band guitarist and get your chicks for free.
 
This is tough... I started out in business, was in sales management for a couple years before going to law school and now practicing for 5 years. While there's things I like about the law, I'm still not sure it's what I want to spend the rest of my life doing. I'm currently thinking about going back into sales. I enjoy being on the road, meeting and developing relationships with people, solving problems, etc. I have somewhat of an idea in mind for spending a couple years in sales before buying a business of my own in the industry I'd be going into.

So, I think owning my own business in a sales-related field is where I'd find the most happiness. And at 32, I don't think I have to regret that yet, still an option. Though with a little one at home and plans for more soon, I really need to make my move.

Otherwise: radiologist, finance, engineering and in particular Disney Imagineering. Oh, and NFL or MLB GM, as long as I can be unrealistic.
 
I am a chemist who never really worked in the lab, and went into chemical sales and overall business management for chemical companies my whole career. I was a Pre-Med major at Penn State, but did not get into Med School. As much as I still wanted to be a medical doctor most of my career, I now have no regrets having worked in the specialty chemicals industry as I feel like I have learned so much over the years. Many people however wish they did something other than the fields they ended up in. Other than wanting to be the best athlete in a professional sports league (who wouldn't), what would you have chosen?

One word, Plastics
 
Maybe this thread is a snapshot of the adage..."Life, Liberty and the *pursuit* of happiness."
 
I am a chemist who never really worked in the lab, and went into chemical sales and overall business management for chemical companies my whole career. I was a Pre-Med major at Penn State, but did not get into Med School. As much as I still wanted to be a medical doctor most of my career, I now have no regrets having worked in the specialty chemicals industry as I feel like I have learned so much over the years. Many people however wish they did something other than the fields they ended up in. Other than wanting to be the best athlete in a professional sports league (who wouldn't), what would you have chosen?
Nurse. Ian in nursing school now and will get my Ran next year.
 
I've reached a longtime goal recently - I work for the University. Been here for about 6 mos and really enjoy the work I do with students. I am a staffer and not a Prof - don't have a doctorate. It is a thrill to work for PS, I obviously have a lot of pride and I believe deeply in the Univ. Living and working in SC has been fantastic. Salaries aren't great in higher ed, unless you are in senior mgmt. It is a very bureaucratic place with rules and policies out the wazoo. There is a lot of competition internally for advancement opportunities. But, overall, it is a great place to work - I work really hard for PS. I guess I am just a believer.....
 
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