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OT: Looking Good for MSU coach Mel Tucker. Contract extension. 10 year $95 million.? Per freep.com

I feel like there is a bubble coming in college sports. the money being thrown around is rising like crazy, NIL is here, etc..and only so much there. At a certain point things are going to burst.

Where are we at as a society when the football coach makes 65x more than the average college professor who teaches 99.99% of the students. Just seems like we are misplacing some important things here.
 
At least one of the guys said to be footing the bill for this is a billionaire, former basketball walk-on, and gave $32 million to Spartan athletics when his company went public. Not sure about how wealthy the other is, but it doesn't sound like this would come out of MSU athletic revenue. If they have the money and can do it, more power to them.
I will say this for anyone knowledgeable about horse racing - a contract of this magnitude based on the little data we've seen has the potential to be like college football's version of the Green Monkey (RIP).
 
I agree. This is a ridiculous contract from MSU. Tucker’s record-

College:
2019 Colorado- 5-7
2020 Michigan St- 2-5
2021 Michigan St- 9-1

Total- 16-13

He got $5.5 million annually for 6 years at MSU (double his Colorado contract and apparently over $1 million more than Dantonio was paid by MSU). That’s after a 5-7 year at Colorado.

1.5 years into his $5.5 million 6 year deal MSU has now upped it to $9.5 million per year for 10 years.

Clearly MSU was worried a higher program like LSU was going to take him away and they panicked.
Good timing on Tucker's part. He's about to go 0-2.
 
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I will say this for anyone knowledgeable about horse racing - a contract of this magnitude based on the little data we've seen has the potential to be like college football's version of the Green Monkey (RIP).
And speaking of horse racing: one job most of us would not want:
being a pee tester.

One of my surfer acquaintances here on the coast happens to do that when Del Mar is running. They just held the Breeders Cup at Del Mar., so there he was.

I didn't get into the intricacies of his job, yet good to have that info available, and other track info at the ready should I want it.🤔😉

,,,cheers
 
Isn't that the joy of every seasonal sport?

A question for you though - what is the purpose of posting Mel Tucker rumors on a PSU board this week?
My belief coaches salaries would appear as a topic of discussion here on this board based on the (Detroit) freep.com article, and say, subsequent ESPN articles.


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Penn State's goal isn't to get to the playoffs.
But I thought I read that Franklin wanted to be the first A-A HC to win a natty. How you gonna win a natty if your goal isn't to get to the playoffs? Would be quite the thing if Tucker achieved that milestone first.
 
I feel like there is a bubble coming in college sports. the money being thrown around is rising like crazy, NIL is here, etc..and only so much there. At a certain point things are going to burst.

Where are we at as a society when the football coach makes 65x more than the average college professor who teaches 99.99% of the students. Just seems like we are misplacing some important things here.

Which professor generates 100+ million in revenue per year?
 
At least one of the guys said to be footing the bill for this is a billionaire, former basketball walk-on, and gave $32 million to Spartan athletics when his company went public. Not sure about how wealthy the other is, but it doesn't sound like this would come out of MSU athletic revenue. If they have the money and can do it, more power to them.
Hmm interesting, is this a new wave of coaching contracts. School can give the head coach a 5 year contract at a million a year and then can get a wealthy donor to give the coach 10 million a year on their own?
 
Kudos to Coach Tucker.

Private $$ Financing.

Reward$ Follow Result$.

,,,cheers
A large university like MSU has many esteemed PhD's, doctors, scientists etc. in their employment. Doesn't it strike you as odd that far and away the highest paid employee is the football coach? Probably followed by the basketball coach. MSU is not alone, it is that way at every major university.
 
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But I thought I read that Franklin wanted to be the first A-A HC to win a natty. How you gonna win a natty if your goal isn't to get to the playoffs? Would be quite the thing if Tucker achieved that milestone first.
Sorry, thought you'd get my drift. We don't want to just be in the playoff - we're Penn State. We expect to win the thing if we get in. At least that's how it used to be.
 
And speaking of horse racing: one job most of us would not want:
being a pee tester.

One of my surfer acquaintances here on the coast happens to do that when Del Mar is running. They just held the Breeders Cup at Del Mar., so there he was.

I didn't get into the intricacies of his job, yet good to have that info available, and other track info at the ready should I want it.🤔😉

,,,cheers
I'm assuming you're talking about the horses? That doesn't sound fun.

Anyway, for those who don't follow it, the Green Monkey was a horse that ran a really fast time while up for sale as a 2-year-old. That sparked a bidding war between a Sheikh and some Irishmen. The Irishmen finally "won" with a bid of $16 million. The Green Monkey took a while to make it to the races, then raced 3 times, never finishing higher than 3rd.
 
The billionaire boys are also ponying up NIL money for football and basketball players. Tucker has a minor league football team with millions at his disposal for players.
 
I feel like there is a bubble coming in college sports. the money being thrown around is rising like crazy, NIL is here, etc..and only so much there. At a certain point things are going to burst.

Where are we at as a society when the football coach makes 65x more than the average college professor who teaches 99.99% of the students. Just seems like we are misplacing some important things here.
Great point. I love hearing when people in academia and public education start talking about how much they value education. Follow the money.
 
A large university like MSU has many esteemed PhD's, doctors, scientists etc. in their employment. Doesn't it strike you as odd that far and away the highest paid employee is the football coach? Probably followed by the basketball coach. MSU is not alone, it is that way at every major university.
Yes and no re odd. Yes re we are not alone.

Pick a school: everyone wants a winner. And am sure those who can afford to give so much money, have run it buy their CPA's/tax accountants, as back whenever,
Read somewhere where in the EU, in one country,their favorite sport was Tax Avoidance. 😉

And I also believe when one makes it big via an IPO, they've other charities with which they $hare, and yet don't receive the publicity.

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I'm assuming you're talking about the horses? That doesn't sound fun.

Anyway, for those who don't follow it, the Green Monkey was a horse that ran a really fast time while up for sale as a 2-year-old. That sparked a bidding war between a Sheikh and some Irishmen. The Irishmen finally "won" with a bid of $16 million. The Green Monkey took a while to make it to the races, then raced 3 times, never finishing higher than 3rd.
Yea re the ponies.

Bidding war for the Rich.😉
😫 re ROI.

And from the fun side of songs/music: back in the late '50's // and horse racing, ya gotta listen to Spike Jones's horse racing song. " Beetlebaum."
Now that horse was a Winner.!!

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Yea good for him and MSU if they can afford to do it who cares... My only thought on it is , he brought in like 14 transfers and many are making huge contributions. Can he continue to pull those in every year to fill gaps like he did this year or is he bale to build with what he recruits and already has? Either way wont fault a man for getting paid!
 
But I thought I read that Franklin wanted to be the first A-A HC to win a natty. How you gonna win a natty if your goal isn't to get to the playoffs? Would be quite the thing if Tucker achieved that milestone first.
When did Franklin say the play offs or national championships were not his goals.
 
Yes and no re odd. Yes re we are not alone.

Pick a school: everyone wants a winner. And am sure those who can afford to give so much money, have run it buy their CPA's/tax accountants, as back whenever,
Read somewhere where in the EU, in one country,their favorite sport was Tax Avoidance. 😉

And I also believe when one makes it big via an IPO, they've other charities with which they $hare, and yet don't receive the publicity.

,,,cheers

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Your response is hard to follow. I was merely pointing out that coaches salaries today show what we really value. No, MSU is by no means alone in that regard. BTW, I sat next to Mel Tucker at a baseball game once. Talked to him for about 2 hours. Nice guy.
 
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I feel like there is a bubble coming in college sports. the money being thrown around is rising like crazy, NIL is here, etc..and only so much there. At a certain point things are going to burst.

Where are we at as a society when the football coach makes 65x more than the average college professor who teaches 99.99% of the students. Just seems like we are misplacing some important things here.
Problem is there’s a mini bubble in university academia too. Most big professors aren’t teaching students. They dole that out to lowly teaching assistants. ;). You’re right though- sports has become too disproportionate at many universities.
 
Your response is hard to follow. I was merely pointing out that coaches salaries today show what we really value. No, MSU is by no means alone in that regard. BTW, I sat next to Mel Tucker at a baseball game once. Talked to him for about 2 hours. Nice guy.
Bottom line: contractual agreement is what the market agrees apon/ will bare.
Great by me. Luv my college football.
Nice guys finish first..

And as an ancillary tidbit re one of the pending contracts private benefactor$:

tonight at our usual Thursday night fun HH' confirmed that my PSU tennis
Partner's nephew /PSU grad/ PSU football/Super Bowl ring with the Steelers.
Sean McHugh,

Works for United Wholesale Mortgage.
The CEO is one of the benefactors.

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May happen.

Bitcoins, stock market anyone?

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Maybe but the guy has put together an 8-1 season coming into a pretty bare roster and filling the gaps with transfers. I'd say the guy can coach. We have gone 10-9 over the past two years with a roster filled with CJF recruits.
 
If Tucker wins out, wins the Big Ten title and gets to the playoffs he will have done more in three years as a head coach that James Franklin has done in 11.
Really you forget the Big Ten championship Franklin won.
The 11-1 seasons.
Playing with reduced roster and lower quality recruits for first years.
Flipped Barkley from Rutgers
Brought in Miles Saunders
Brought in New 2yr OC
Who left for Head. Coaching job
 
I agree. This is a ridiculous contract from MSU. Tucker’s record-

College:
2019 Colorado- 5-7
2020 Michigan St- 2-5
2021 Michigan St- 9-1

Total- 16-13

He got $5.5 million annually for 6 years at MSU (double his Colorado contract and apparently over $1 million more than Dantonio was paid by MSU). That’s after a 5-7 year at Colorado.

1.5 years into his $5.5 million 6 year deal MSU has now upped it to $9.5 million per year for 10 years.

Clearly MSU was worried a higher program like LSU was going to take him away and they panicked.

Hate to tell you that looks a lot like what we have seen at PSU. We have up CJF's contract after just about every double digit win season.
 
Let's not count the eggs before they're hatched. Meat is ranked ahead of Sparty despite losing to them!! Now that alone should tell you something. If not, then go back to sleep. Sparty must beat Ahiya and PSU, and Ahiya beat Meat in order for Sparty to get into the Big Ten Championship game. Then of course, Sparty must win the conference title game. That's a long row to hoe for an upstart coach with a team which consists of mercenaries.

Regarding the contract extension all I know is Michigan State is not on the list (see below) and therefore, it has very little margin for error in regards to sustainability. Unlike PSU. I say good luck to them. They're going to need it!


That's a long row to hoe for an upstart coach with a team which consists of mercenaries.

LOL. Have you looked at 2 of our starters on the DL and both our safeties, plus a couple of DBs sitting the bench??? OL is a little bit better, just one starter on the OL. More than few on this board are pining for CJF to better in the transfer portal market. Right now it's QBs and WRs.
 
Hate to tell you that looks a lot like what we have seen at PSU. We have up CJF's contract after just about every double digit win season.
I hear ya but Tucker is at $9.5 million/ year right after Saban at $9.75 million/ year. He’s now the second highest paid coach in the country and his career record is 16-13.
 
I see the 10 million dollar coach is getting his doors blown off. Heading toward the worst loss in MSU history?

Yeah, talk about falling back to earth with a thud. To think that just a couple weeks ago he was the flavor of the week. The world bowed before his brilliance...though his head coaching record was strictly mediocre before this year at Michigan State.
 
Yeah, talk about falling back to earth with a thud. To think that just a couple weeks ago he was the flavor of the week. The world bowed before his brilliance...though his head coaching record was strictly mediocre before this year at Michigan State.
The portal team. He can’t do that year in, year out, which is why I was surprised to see such a ridiculously high contract come his way. Guy hasn’t proved he can recruit and build a team and he’s going to be the highest paid FBS coach?!
 
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