OT: UG birthplace of public higher education

[canuckhal]

Anyone else see the UG commercial that states UG is the birthplace of public higher education? Interesting considering MSU and PSU were the first land grant institutions. MSU gets the title of first by a day. Apparently, the claim is that UG is the first university run by the state and not by a religious institution. UNC disagrees and claims to be the first public higher education institution. William and Mary also makes the claim.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/27/uga-birthplace-public-education/

 

[fairgambit]

I agree with Georgia's claim having been there and heard their history. As the article states, they became the nation's 1st state-chartered university in 1785.

 

[BobPSU92]

Anyone else see the UG commercial that states UG is the birthplace of public higher education? Interesting considering MSU and PSU were the first land grant institutions. MSU gets the title of first by a day. Apparently, the claim is that UG is the first university run by the state and not by a religious institution. UNC disagrees and claims to be the first public higher education institution. William and Mary also makes the claim.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/27/uga-birthplace-public-education/

What the hell were these schools doing all those early years. To think we needed rutgres to be the BIRTHPLACE. of college football. Where would we be without rutgres?

 

[massimoManca II]

I agree with Georgia's claim having been there and heard their history. As the article states, they became the nation's 1st state-chartered university in 1785.

1785 as a “public” university with an asterisk...

1961 for the “rest” of the public

 

[canuckhal]

What the hell were these schools doing all those early years. To think we needed rutgres to be the BIRTHPLACE. of college football. Where would we be without rutgres?

One less win a year?

 

[canuckhal]

1785 as a “public” university with an asterisk...

1961 for the “rest” of the public

Yeah, I would say land grants were the first "public" universities as they were about educating the masses without regard to social class.

 

[fairgambit]

1785 as a “public” university with an asterisk...

1961 for the “rest” of the public

Then we became fully public in 1899.

 

[BobPSU92]

Yeah, I would say land grants were the first "public" universities as they were about educating the masses without regard to social class.

Sounds like Penn State today.

 

[psuro]

Then we became fully public in 1899.

We did not become a University until the 1950s.

 

[ATLPSU1]

I've lived in ga for almost 30 years, I would say that uga is "Higher Education" is more than a stretch.

 

[fairgambit]

We did not become a University until the 1950s.

True, and I did not say otherwise. I was only indicating the 1st black student was admitted in 1899 to what most of us understand was a public institution (college then, university now).

 

[fairgambit]

I've lived in ga for almost 30 years, I would say that uga is "Higher Education" is more than a stretch.

Perhaps, but US News has them ranked higher than us among National Universities, 50 them, 57 us.

 

[ouirpsu]

My son, who’s planning to graduate in May in 3 years, received a full tuition scholarship from Alabama and a slightly less awesome offer from UNC. Georgia sent him a pair of socks. Guess where he doesn’t go?

 

[Alphalion75]

I agree with Georgia's claim having been there and heard their history. As the article states, they became the nation's 1st state-chartered university in 1785.

Bingo!

 

[ATLPSU1]

Perhaps, but US News has them ranked higher than us among National Universities, 50 them, 57 us.

That may be the most misleading ranking I've ever seen. I recruit students for a very large financial institution. We rate students overall from 300 + schools. PSU is in the top 30, UGA is roughly 150.

 

[fairgambit]

That may be the most misleading ranking I've ever seen. I recruit students for a very large financial institution. We rate students overall from 300 + schools. PSU is in the top 30, UGA is roughly 150.

Some put a lot of faith in the US News rankings. I don't care much one way or the other, and this is not directed at you, but some on this board use that one, and others, when it suits them and ignore such rankings when they do not.

 

[hagberg]

Some put a lot of faith in the US News rankings. I don't care much one way or the other, and this is not directed at you, but some on this board use that one, and others, when it suits them and ignore such rankings when they do not.

That only ranking question that matters is this:

Is your school PSU?

"Yes," you're #1; "No," you're tied for last.

 

[BoulderFish]

1785 as a “public” university with an asterisk...

1961 for the “rest” of the public

Kaaaaa.... Boom.

 

[Pardlion]

I agree with Georgia's claim having been there and heard their history. As the article states, they became the nation's 1st state-chartered university in 1785.

Well, there weren’t any States before 1776. Doesn’t mean there weren’t public/quasi public schools, like W&M.

 

[LionJim]

Here’s a trick trivia question: What is the oldest Catholic university in the fifty states?

 

[Pardlion]

Here’s a trick trivia question: What is the oldest Catholic university in the fifty states?

SMU?

 

[ouirpsu]

My experience (sample size 4) is that schools talk down rankings until they happen to appear higher on one than expected. That ranking is then milked for marketing/recruiting purposes as long as possible.

 

[jshell65]

Here’s a trick trivia question: What is the oldest Catholic university in the fifty states?

Georgetown?

 

[CF LION]

Georgetown?

GTown is not located in one of the 50 states.

ND

 

[kgilbert78]

Yeah, I would say land grants were the first "public" universities as they were about educating the masses without regard to social class.

Eh, my other, other Alma Mater might make that claim. In 1388. The city fathers as opposed to a king or duke founded the university. It's a Penn State partner, the University of Cologne.

 

[LionJim]

Here’s a trick trivia question: What is the oldest Catholic university in the fifty states?

Georgetown?

GTown is not located in one of the 50 states.

ND

Mount Saint Mary’s. (Georgetown is the oldest Catholic university in the United States.)

 

[PSU2UNC]

I agree with Georgia's claim having been there and heard their history. As the article states, they became the nation's 1st state-chartered university in 1785.

It depends on how you define when you become a school.

UGA was chartered first (1785), but did not admit students until 1801.

The first UNC students started class in 1793 and graduated their first class in 1798 (before UGA ever held a class).

UGA existed on paper before UNC, but UNC opened its doors first.

 

[PSU2UNC]

Well, there weren’t any States before 1776. Doesn’t mean there weren’t public/quasi public schools, like W&M.

W&M was private and didn't become public until 1906 (because they ran out of $$).

 

[katchthis]

Eh, my other, other Alma Mater might make that claim. In 1388. The city fathers as opposed to a king or duke founded the university. It's a Penn State partner, the University of Cologne.

Yep claim to fame is formulating Drakkar Noir in the founding year.