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OT: What is That Delightful Smell?

The Gentlemen is an awesome movie. I've watched it about 10 times.
Creek Side, I have been told I am strange, mostly by my wife. Now I know there are two of us, that have over-watched what seems to be a bit of fringe maybe even cult favorite type film. Definitely a hidden gem, and on my list of all time favorites. It's hard to find a compare to describe it.

I have seen it at least 10 times as well, admittedly, probably several in the same week, maybe a couple even back to back. Guy Ritchie, films all seem to be a little unique in their own way.
 
After seeing my FIL cook a rib roast to shoe leather the last couple years, he finally is letting me tackle it.

Getting a 10 lb bone in standing rib roast for Christmas. Planning on seasoning with salt and pepper generously. Let set for a day uncovered in fridge.

Then smoking with lump charcoal and hickory. Cooking to medium rare. And slicing thin. Catching the drippings and making an Au Jus.

The in laws won't eat anything pink or red, so I was going to put slices into warm au jus to give that well done look.

Am I missing anything? Any other suggestions?

Dont initially season with pepper. Just salt.

Make an herb butter and cover after you pull it out of the fridge. In the smoker, place the meat in cast iron skillet.

Low-n-slow to 115 internal. LET IT REST for 1 hour. Use drippings in the pan to make your au jus. Just add beef stock, salt and pepper to taste.

After rest, turn that smoker up as high as you can get it, and get that hard crust.

And great idea to use the au jus to cover the fact that that side of the family don’t actually eat meat.
 
Creek Side, I have been told I am strange, mostly by my wife. Now I know there are two of us, that have over-watched what seems to be a bit of fringe maybe even cult favorite type film. Definitely a hidden gem, and on my list of all time favorites. It's hard to find a compare to describe it.

I have seen it at least 10 times as well, admittedly, probably several in the same week, maybe a couple even back to back. Guy Ritchie, films all seem to be a little unique in their own way.
Don’t get me started on The Gentleman. It’s the best “guy” movie in the past 2 decades. Great cast, great story, intriguing characters.
 
I live in California and grill TriTip all the time, it's my favorite go to and runs circles around stuff like brisket. It's Easier, Cheaper, juicier and more flavorful.

As for the Wagyu, that's a bit of a craze right now and it seems there are a lot of pretenders out there capitalizing on the name. True "Japanese Wagyu A5" - which I can't come close to afford by the way - not only is a breed, but it's fed a very special diet and the beasts are even regularly hand massaged by humans to produce an exceptionally high fat content and amazing marbleing. I think there are American versions where they raise genetic Wagyu but do nothing else and the marbleing is lost. If you shell out the $$$ for Wagyu make sure it is graded at A5 or you are probably paying for something you can get for much less. My local Costco sells USDA 'prime' tri tip for $10/lb that has more marbleing by far than what your picture shows. Choice is going for $8/lb

Here is what true "Wagyu" should look like, it's unmistakable.


I usually buy the cheapest USDA 'Choice' I can find (pre-pandemic $3.99/lb was not uncommon on sale, and it always turns out excellent. All that it needs is a Santa Maria style dry rub, on medium indirect heat for about 30 minutes and you will have the best, juiciest, taste you can get on a BBQ. Honest to God, I'll take fresh from the grill Tri-tip over a NY Steak anytime. Enjoy.
Here you go. Order all you want.

 
After seeing my FIL cook a rib roast to shoe leather the last couple years, he finally is letting me tackle it.

Getting a 10 lb bone in standing rib roast for Christmas. Planning on seasoning with salt and pepper generously. Let set for a day uncovered in fridge.

Then smoking with lump charcoal and hickory. Cooking to medium rare. And slicing thin. Catching the drippings and making an Au Jus.

The in laws won't eat anything pink or red, so I was going to put slices into warm au jus to give that well done look.

Am I missing anything? Any other suggestions?
Yep. Cook the in-laws some hot dogs and call it a day.
 
After seeing my FIL cook a rib roast to shoe leather the last couple years, he finally is letting me tackle it.

Getting a 10 lb bone in standing rib roast for Christmas. Planning on seasoning with salt and pepper generously. Let set for a day uncovered in fridge.

Then smoking with lump charcoal and hickory. Cooking to medium rare. And slicing thin. Catching the drippings and making an Au Jus.

The in laws won't eat anything pink or red, so I was going to put slices into warm au jus to give that well done look.

Am I missing anything? Any other suggestions?
I add 1/4 unit of granulated onion to the spice blend.
Sometimes i inject a mix of cold coffee and truffle oil.
 
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Dont initially season with pepper. Just salt.

Make an herb butter and cover after you pull it out of the fridge. In the smoker, place the meat in cast iron skillet.

Low-n-slow to 115 internal. LET IT REST for 1 hour. Use drippings in the pan to make your au jus. Just add beef stock, salt and pepper to taste.

After rest, turn that smoker up as high as you can get it, and get that hard crust.

And great idea to use the au jus to cover the fact that that side of the family don’t actually eat meat.
I thought the same thing about no pepper initially.


and @hlstone cold coffee and truffle oil, interesting….
 
I don't understand not putting pepper initially. My wife liberally peppers every roast she ever cooks, and every last one is fantastic. Why are you guys advocating against?

Also, salt the roast the day before.
 
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I don't understand not putting pepper initially. My wife liberally peppers every roast she ever cooks, and every last one is fantastic. Why are you guys advocating against?

Also, salt the roast the day before.
Salt the day before. Pepper before cooking.

You can do it either way, it is just the way I was taught.
 
Salt the day before. Pepper before cooking.

You can do it either way, it is just the way I was taught.
Who taught you that? It's so silly. You are making 1 step into 2. Plus I have most of my rubs pre-made.
 
It is funny, steaks and roasts I always dry brine with salt only for even a few days, but brisket I use salt and pepper. No idea why, just how I was taught.
 
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It is funny, steaks and roasts I always dry brine with salt only for even a few days, but brisket I use salt and pepper. No idea why, just how I was taught.
Maybe this is why.


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My FIL was a shoe leather kind of guy. The slightest pink and it was back the the heat. It killed me. One night we were late getting to a camp site. I got busy cooking. Fed him a medium rare steak that he raved about. He was down to the last bite when I fired up the lantern and he say how rare it was. I almost felt guilty for tricking him....almost
 
Anyone got any tips for cold weather smoking? It's supposed to be single digits here this weekend.

I was thinking of going with indirect grilling rather than smoking. I'll put the fire in one side of my grill rather than in the smoker box. That should help with my heat retention. I plan on starting early to allow for extra cook time and warm up time.
 
My FIL was a shoe leather kind of guy. The slightest pink and it was back the the heat. It killed me. One night we were late getting to a camp site. I got busy cooking. Fed him a medium rare steak that he raved about. He was down to the last bite when I fired up the lantern and he say how rare it was. I almost felt guilty for tricking him....almost

doesn't matter. You did the right thing. I've done the same to multiple persons and never felt bad about it. 100% of the time they liked it. Usually go with a medium the first time though. Some people can't handle the chewy of a medium rare.
 
doesn't matter. You did the right thing. I've done the same to multiple persons and never felt bad about it. 100% of the time they liked it. Usually go with a medium the first time though. Some people can't handle the chewy of a medium rare.
My wife never ordered steak when we would go out. As I mentioned above, she never ate anything but well done. I got a medium steak out one time and gave some to her. She loved it and now orders them out at times. She still doesn't like my rare/medium rare, but at least she realizes how good a properly cooked steak tastes.
 
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Anyone got any tips for cold weather smoking? It's supposed to be single digits here this weekend.

I was thinking of going with indirect grilling rather than smoking. I'll put the fire in one side of my grill rather than in the smoker box. That should help with my heat retention. I plan on starting early to allow for extra cook time and warm up time.
Make a wind-block.

My first pro smoke was for a Superbowl about 15 years ago. I had 3 pork butts smoking for 14 hours and they were still only at 165. So I threw those suckers in the oven for a couple of hours and they were pull out bone delicious.

You only need the smoke on for 3 hours to make good bbq.

Good luck and take pics!
 
Make a wind-block.

My first pro smoke was for a Superbowl about 15 years ago. I had 3 pork butts smoking for 14 hours and they were still only at 165. So I threw those suckers in the oven for a couple of hours and they were pull out bone delicious.

You only need the smoke on for 3 hours to make good bbq.

Good luck and take pics!
I have done this often. I also use the garage with a piece of dryer flex vent. Not the plastic stuff but the aluminum flex tube and built an extended stack. My garage is detached and not finished so no risk of smoking up the house. Not ideal but works in a pinch. I have also used some wool army blankets from the army surplus store along with some welding heat blankets to cover the smoker and help keep it up to temp. Most of the pellet smoker companies make a cold weather blanket that can be used to retain heat in the smokers.
 
I got a smoking tube for pellets so I can smoke some cheese. Any tips or favorite cheeses?

Most of the recipes I read said to smoke for 2 hours, then wrap for a week before eating.
 
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I got a smoking tube for pellets so I can smoke some cheese. Any tips or favorite cheeses?

Most of the recipes I read said to smoke for 2 hours, then wrap for a week before eating.
I use A-MAZE-N trays, but they also sell tubes. Both use pellets. Due to the size of my smoker, I will sometimes light the pellets at both ends to get double the smoke. I have purchased pellets from multiple places and tried various varieties, but it's honestly pretty tough to tell the difference. If I'm doing a large volume smoke, I will frequently vacuum seal and freeze. Note that not all cheeses freeze well. Swiss and Cooper sharp do freeze ok. (If you can buy as a 5 lb. block, you'll save a bit.) If you're smoking a soft cheese, such as mozzarella or provolone, make sure to keep an eye on the temperature, as it could all end up on the bottom! I stay right around 85-90 degrees and that seems to work pretty well. It will bring out the oils in the cheeses and allow them to absorb the smoke better. I rotate the blocks about every half hour, and usually leave in the smoker for 3-4 hours, as that's about how long my tray(s) will burn. Enjoy.
 
I use A-MAZE-N trays, but they also sell tubes. Both use pellets. Due to the size of my smoker, I will sometimes light the pellets at both ends to get double the smoke. I have purchased pellets from multiple places and tried various varieties, but it's honestly pretty tough to tell the difference. If I'm doing a large volume smoke, I will frequently vacuum seal and freeze. Note that not all cheeses freeze well. Swiss and Cooper sharp do freeze ok. (If you can buy as a 5 lb. block, you'll save a bit.) If you're smoking a soft cheese, such as mozzarella or provolone, make sure to keep an eye on the temperature, as it could all end up on the bottom! I stay right around 85-90 degrees and that seems to work pretty well. It will bring out the oils in the cheeses and allow them to absorb the smoke better. I rotate the blocks about every half hour, and usually leave in the smoker for 3-4 hours, as that's about how long my tray(s) will burn. Enjoy.
Thanks. I think I might try a mozzarella or provolone, mild cheddar, and something else that catches my eye. I'll start with small blocks just to get it down. I think if I keep the tube on one side and cheese on the other, my temps should be fine. Especially since it's chilly outside.

Most of the recipes I read said to use a fruit wood rather than hickory.
 
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Thanks. I think I might try a mozzarella or provolone, mild cheddar, and something else that catches my eye. I'll start with small blocks just to get it down. I think if I keep the tube on one side and cheese on the other, my temps should be fine. Especially since it's chilly outside.

Most of the recipes I read said to use a fruit wood rather than hickory.
I usually cut them into 0.75 - 1.0 pound blocks for smoking. I bought a 15 inch double handle cheese knife for cutting them. The first time using it, I was real careful when cutting, but not so much when cleaning. A visit to the ER and 8 stitches to the side of my index finger later, and now I'm cautious when cleaning also. ;)
 
I usually cut them into 0.75 - 1.0 pound blocks for smoking. I bought a 15 inch double handle cheese knife for cutting them. The first time using it, I was real careful when cutting, but not so much when cleaning. A visit to the ER and 8 stitches to the side of my index finger later, and now I'm cautious when cleaning also. ;)
Yikes. I've done my fair share of hacking my hands up as well.

Latest, which wasn't that bad, was a missing finger tip on our mandolin. I got too relaxed and didn't realize my finger slid down.
 
I got a smoking tube for pellets so I can smoke some cheese. Any tips or favorite cheeses?

Most of the recipes I read said to smoke for 2 hours, then wrap for a week before eating.
I just went with my father in-law this morning so he could pick up cheese for smoking. He picked up a block of bacon cheddar which is pretty good. He does all the cheese smoking because I don't have a cold smoker. Our regular go to's are Cooper Sharp and Clearfiled Hot Pepper. There are a lot of different flavors out there and we've found there isn't a ton of difference between brands for similar cheese.
I don't like cheese with a heavy smoke flavor. He does. So mine is usually over smoked for my liking and I give a lot of it away. 2 hours is about as much smoke as I like on cheese but he usually goes well beyond that.
He just did a Cooper Black Pepper for me before Christmas and he smoked it way too much. I'm going to give most of it to some friends that enjoy the ash tray flavor 😉.
I vacuume seal all my cheese and keep it in the crisper drawer of our 2nd fridge. It doesn't stink everything up that way. If you vacuume seal it, it will last YEARS in the fridge and you'll never taste a difference.
He always uses hickory to smoke cheese. The taste of different wood smokes like cherry and apple really stand out in a lot of cheeses so depending on your taste be cautious about how much you hit it with.
 
I usually cut them into 0.75 - 1.0 pound blocks for smoking. I bought a 15 inch double handle cheese knife for cutting them. The first time using it, I was real careful when cutting, but not so much when cleaning. A visit to the ER and 8 stitches to the side of my index finger later, and now I'm cautious when cleaning also. ;)
We use a thin guitar string wire pulled tight in a large coping saw frame. We call it the cheese cleaver. In my opinion a wire is the easiest and safest ways to cut up cheese. We cut 5lb blocks in half than quarter those halves length wise.
 
I just went with my father in-law this morning so he could pick up cheese for smoking. He picked up a block of bacon cheddar which is pretty good. He does all the cheese smoking because I don't have a cold smoker. Our regular go to's are Cooper Sharp and Clearfiled Hot Pepper. There are a lot of different flavors out there and we've found there isn't a ton of difference between brands for similar cheese.
I don't like cheese with a heavy smoke flavor. He does. So mine is usually over smoked for my liking and I give a lot of it away. 2 hours is about as much smoke as I like on cheese but he usually goes well beyond that.
He just did a Cooper Black Pepper for me before Christmas and he smoked it way too much. I'm going to give most of it to some friends that enjoy the ash tray flavor 😉.
I vacuume seal all my cheese and keep it in the crisper drawer of our 2nd fridge. It doesn't stink everything up that way. If you vacuume seal it, it will last YEARS in the fridge and you'll never taste a difference.
He always uses hickory to smoke cheese. The taste of different wood smokes like cherry and apple really stand out in a lot of cheeses so depending on your taste be cautious about how much you hit it with.
I wouldn't think hickory would be good for cheese, unless you like a strong smoky flavor. I picked up some apple pellets to try out.

I don't have a vacuum sealer so I'll just stick with small volumes.

I was talking to my friend abput smoking cheese, and he does his in a cardboard box. He uses a foil pan to shield against the pellets catching the box on fire. Vents the box to keep temp down.
 
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I got a smoking tube for pellets so I can smoke some cheese. Any tips or favorite cheeses?

Most of the recipes I read said to smoke for 2 hours, then wrap for a week before eating.
The week before Christmas, I smoked cheddar, baby Swiss, Muenster, gouda, and hot jalapeño pepper. 3.5 to 4 hours of applewood smoke with an ice bath over the smoke. It turns out that the gouda was already smoked, so I made double-smoked gouda. Whoops. I got good reviews on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

Saturday, I changed out the last three in that list for horseradish and Colby jack, and changed to cherrywood chips. I'm going to risk not giving them enough time to rest, and have some of them during the game.

Bought most of the cheese from L&L in Middleburg. It was in 5 pound blocks, cut into 1.5-2" chunks for smoking.
 
We use a thin guitar string wire pulled tight in a large coping saw frame. We call it the cheese cleaver. In my opinion a wire is the easiest and safest ways to cut up cheese. We cut 5lb blocks in half than quarter those halves length wise.
Wire makes it so easy. I got a small granite block, with the cutter built in.

Fox Run Brands Marble Cheese Slicer with 1 Replacement Wire, 5 x 8.25 x 1.25 inches, White https://a.co/d/gU02fjR

Just big enough to cut through 5 lb blocks, round or square.
 
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The week before Christmas, I smoked cheddar, baby Swiss, Muenster, gouda, and hot jalapeño pepper. 3.5 to 4 hours of applewood smoke with an ice bath over the smoke. It turns out that the gouda was already smoked, so I made double-smoked gouda. Whoops. I got good reviews on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

Saturday, I changed out the last three in that list for horseradish and Colby jack, and changed to cherrywood chips. I'm going to risk not giving them enough time to rest, and have some of them during the game.

Bought most of the cheese from L&L in Middleburg. It was in 5 pound blocks, cut into 1.5-2" chunks for smoking.
I definitely want to do gouda. I need to find some not already smoked. My local higher end grocer was closed today. We all love colby jack, so that will be on my list. I think I might give brick a try also.
 
Do you have cooper sharp in your area? It’s the best smoked cheese by far.
I also love to smoke fresh mozzarella.
I bet I can find it. I got a couple good places to look. I wasn't sure fresh mozzarella would hold up. I lobe fresh mozz so I'll give it a try also.
 
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