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OT: Wrestling PennState vs Northwestern Final

JonZ

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Long day at church today. Wrestling started at 2:00PM. Summary below

125 Megaludis 23-7 TF
133 Conaway FALL
Gulibon forfeit win
Retherford 15-5 MD
157 Rolf FALL
165 Rasheed 6-0 dec
174 Nickal FALL
184 McCutcheon won by inj default

PennState 42 Northwestern 0

197 McIntosh up 6-2 after first
McIntosh up 12-3 after second
McIntosh with a 17-4 MAJ

PennState 46 Northwestern 0

285 Phipps (204 lbs) vs Jennings (281 lbs) tied 0-0 after first
Phipps down 8-0 after second
Phipps loses 10-0

Final PennState 46 Northwestern 4
 
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Long day at church today. Wrestling started at 2:00PM. Summary below

125 Megaludis 23-7 TF
133 Conaway FALL
Gulibon forfeit win
Retherford 15-5 MD
157 Rolf FALL
165 Rasheed 6-0 dec
174 Nickal FALL
184 McIntosh won by inj default

PennState 42 Northwestern 0

197 McIntosh up 6-2 after first
McIntosh up 12-3 after second

Think you meant Mouse at 184, not MacIntosh who you have at both 184 and 197.
 
Long day at church today. Wrestling started at 2:00PM. Summary below

125 Megaludis 23-7 TF
133 Conaway FALL
Gulibon forfeit win
Retherford 15-5 MD
157 Rolf FALL
165 Rasheed 6-0 dec
174 Nickal FALL
184 McIntosh won by inj default

PennState 42 Northwestern 0

197 McIntosh up 6-2 after first
McIntosh up 12-3 after second

Also, did T-Shirt go at 149 vs Z-Pain? If so, I thought Zain would win but not by complete destruction.....
 
What's the status of the injured heavyweight? The two replacements haven't done well.
 
What's the status of the injured heavyweight? The two replacements haven't done well.

Nevils is working now, could possibly be ready for the Big Ten tourney, but may take a medical redshirt. Ceasar is also working out but needs to enroll and he may still be light for this class.
 
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PSU doesn't wrestle Iowa unless they meet at the National Dual Tournament)

That's not possible. The tournament has morphed into the top 8 B1G teams, against the winners of the 7 other conference dual championships, and 1 wild-card team. The B1G teams are stacked according to their ranking in the USA Today/NWCA Division I Coaches Poll, and the 8 opponents are stacked by the same ranking. (Going from memory, I think it's the Feb. 21 poll, but I'm too lazy to check. There's a long thread about this in The Wrestling Room.)

There is no way that 2 B1G teams can meet in the National Duals.
 
What's the status of the injured heavyweight? The two replacements haven't done well.

Disagree, both Johnson and Phipps have been wrestling undersized and giving up 50+ pounds to opponents. I think they have both wrestled admirably given that they are effectively wrestling HWT and both are natural 197 lbers. Cody Sanderson said after the match that Nick Nevills (PSU's projected starter at HWT who got hurt) has started to workout and begin the comeback trail...
 
That's not possible. The tournament has morphed into the top 8 B1G teams, against the winners of the 7 other conference dual championships, and 1 wild-card team. The B1G teams are stacked according to their ranking in the USA Today/NWCA Division I Coaches Poll, and the 8 opponents are stacked by the same ranking. (Going from memory, I think it's the Feb. 21 poll, but I'm too lazy to check. There's a long thread about this in The Wrestling Room.)

There is no way that 2 B1G teams can meet in the National Duals.

Is that a change for this year? I thought they used to wrestle through to the "Dual Championship" at the National Coaches' Dual Tourney?
 
Is that a change for this year? I thought they used to wrestle through to the "Dual Championship" at the National Coaches' Dual Tourney?

Yes, it is a new format. The NWCA has been pushing to make the National Duals a component of how the National Championship team in wrestling is determined. Cael Sanderson and some other coaches have been fighting against that. This is the latest compromise. It does not afford the National Duals any part of determining the National Championship. It does bring PSU into the National Duals.

Read the thread about it in The Wrestling Room.
 
Yes, it is a new format. The NWCA has been pushing to make the National Duals a component of how the National Championship team in wrestling is determined. Cael Sanderson and some other coaches have been fighting against that. This is the latest compromise. It does not afford the National Duals any part of determining the National Championship. It does bring PSU into the National Duals.

Read the thread about it in The Wrestling Room.

Yea, knew that Cael had refused to compete in the past due to the format and timing right before b1g Tournament and National Tournament (believe Brands and Iowa were also an abstainer for the same reasons, but not positive on that). Did not know they changed the format this year and was a little surprised to see PSU's and Iowa's participation......but your explanation explains it. Sounds like Cael and Brands said they would participate but only if the format was revised so both teams could control how many "duals" they wrestled directly before b1g's and Nationals.
 
What's the status of the injured heavyweight? The two replacements haven't done well.

That's kind of unknown. He suffered a substantial tear of his pectoral muscle just before the start of this wrestling season. There have been statements from the PSU wrestling coaches in recent weeks that he's back practicing, but nothing beyond that.

To some extent, I think the lack of info is in large part due to the nature of the injury. It's an injury for which the recovery time is more of a range. Plus, wrestling can put a lot of pressure on pectoral muscles. As such, the doctors, the trainers, and Nick and his family are being somewhat careful.

As for his replacements, there have been 3 guys that have wrestled 285 for PSU this year.

Jan Johnson started off the season as a replacement. He was a high school wrestling state champion in PA, but he elected to walk-on to PSU's football team as a linebacker. Most true freshmen on PSU's team enter PSU in late June, and wrestle throughout the summer and fall with their teammates. Johnson, on the other hand, hadn't wrestled since the end of the wrestling season his senior year in high school when Cael Sanderson asked CJF if Johnson could join the wrestling team as an emergency replacement. Unfortunately for Jan and for PSU, he aggravated an old knee issue he had (not clear if he did so in an early season match, or in the PSU wrestling room). As a result, he had to have the knee cleaned out, so he missed some matches and some practice time.

Caleb Livingston was the 2nd guy to wrestle at heavyweight for PSU this year. His normal wrestling weight is 184. He's never cracked PSU's starting roster, and it was unlikely that he ever would have. However, he was willing to go up 2 weights. In his early matches, he was giving up 80 or so pounds, which is pretty tough to do.

Wes Phipps is the 3rd guy to wrestle at heavyweight for PSU this year. His 1st match was on Friday night, and his 2nd match was today. Wes was a 3-sport star athlete in high school. He won a wrestling state championship in PA as a senior, but unlike most of the PSU wrestlers he had never wrestled year-round before enrolling at PSU. Unfortunately for Wes, he's suffered a number of injuries at PSU, and never cracked the starting lineup. Like Livingston, Phipps also is a natural 184 college wrestler. He only was given the OK to return from his latest injury a few weeks ago, so it's unlikely that he would have been much more successful at his natural weight than he's been at 285.

Both Johnson and Phipps were introduced today, so Johnson is probably ready to go. It appears that the coaches are giving some time to each of the potential replacement for Nick Nevills (the projected starter with the torn pec muscle), before settling on who will get the start near the end of the season. Whether Nevills will be back by then remains a question, especially when it's likely that he could get a medical redshirt for this year, and thus give him longer to rehab and also giving him 4 years of eligibility after this year.
 
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