Other key games this weekend: Who to root for?
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It's an obvious fantasy scenario as the current score of the game indicates but it would have been helpful if the Bucks were to have lost to Northwestern because then a 3rd loss to Indiana would likely bounce them out of the playoffs...meaning we wouldn't even have to root for them in that game.
Speaking of 3-loss teams, don't forget about our bet, Lando. It's all on the record here.
The “improved” Cornhuskers look like they’re dropping to 5-5 and have to beat either Wisconsin or Iowa to become bowl eligible.
It's best for PSU if they beat Iowa and lose to Wisconsin. I feel for NU, they are better than their record, having lost some close games.
For our SOS
Yes - Bowling Green over W Michigan Thursday Night
No - West Virginia over Baylor
We can always dream
No - Northwestern over OSU
Wisconsin over Oregon
Knock down other At Large Bid Rivals
Tennessee over Georgia
Kansas over BYU
No - Virginia over Notre Dame
No - Utah over Colorado
No but close- BC over SMU
Yes -Stanford over Louisville (Louisville is considered a quality win for ND and others)
Improve B1G SOS
Yes -Illinois over Michigan State
Maryland over Rutgers
Yes -USC over Nebraska
I didn't bother with these
Yes -Florida over LSU
No but close - Arkansas over Texas
Yes - Bowling Green over W Michigan Thursday Night
No - West Virginia over Baylor
We can always dream
No - Northwestern over OSU
Wisconsin over Oregon
Knock down other At Large Bid Rivals
Tennessee over Georgia
Kansas over BYU
No - Virginia over Notre Dame
No - Utah over Colorado
No but close- BC over SMU
Yes -Stanford over Louisville (Louisville is considered a quality win for ND and others)
Improve B1G SOS
Yes -Illinois over Michigan State
Maryland over Rutgers
Yes -USC over Nebraska
I didn't bother with these
Yes -Florida over LSU
No but close - Arkansas over Texas
I guess it really would be too much to ask Wisconsin to hold on in the second half.
I mean, I didn't think Wisconsin could hang with us after they had a lead at the half--don't think they'll hang with Oregon either
I agree with that--Penn State's issues were self-inflicted so I'm not as confident but Oregon gets the ball to start the 2nd--we'll see what team comes out to play.
I'm actually hoping it's KU that pulls off the big upset today.
I'm not sure if Oregon losing helps or hurts us. Makes the Wisconsin win better but does it hurt the overview strength of the Big Ten?
If Oregon lost and PSU won out and OSU beats IU, could PSU and OSU play in the Big 10 Championship Game?
Yeah, I believe that falls to best record of conference opponents--could be wrong (been drinking lol)
I think they look at records vs the highest ranked teams before they go to conference SoS. In that case Oregon gets it as they beat OSU
Debbie Downer Reporting: It would be OSU and UO. There would be four teams at 8-1. The first tiebreaker would be records in games between the four teams. OSU and UO would each 1-1 while PSU and IU would be 0-1 each.
I don't believe that's correct. Typically, the tiebreaker that involves records between all tied teams requires all the teams to have played each other, otherwise you move on to the next tiebreaker. The Big Ten tiebreaker includes a little wrinkle on this, in that, if the tied teams (assuming 3 or more tied teams) didn't all play each other, but one team played all the other tied teams and beat them, then they get a spot, and the tiebreaker resets between the other remaining tied teams. But that won't be the case here. It goes on to say that if none of the tied teams played all the others and won each time, you move on to the next tiebreaker.
And that would end up going down to the tiebreaker of cumulative winning percentage amongst conference opponents. As of now, assuming a Wisky win tonight, OSU would have the best opponents' cumulative winning percentage, and PSU would be #2, so they would play in the CCG. Note that this could change based on the outcomes of the next two weeks ... right now (assuming a Wisky win tonight), OSU conf opponents have 33 wins, PSU 29, Oregon 27 and Indiana 23. So, hypothetically, if Michigan and MSU outperformed Minny and USC by more than wins in the next 2 weeks, Oregon would jump us (those are the non-common conference opponents between Oregon and PSU).
Here are the relevant portions of the tiebreaker:
1. The records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on winning percentage in games among the tied teams:
(a) If all teams involved in the tie did not play each other, but one team defeated all other teams involved in the tie, the team that defeated all other teams in the tie is removed from the tiebreaker, and the remaining teams revert to the beginning of the applicable tiebreaker process (i.e., two team or three or more team tie).
(b) If all teams involved in the tie did not play each other and no team defeated all other teams involved in the tie, move to the next step in tiebreaker.
2. The records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on winning percentage against all common conference opponents played by all other teams involved in the tie.
3. The records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on winning percentage against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings in order of finish:
4. The records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on the best cumulative conference winning percentage of all conference opponents:
(a) In the event of an unbalanced schedule (i.e., less than nine conference games are played), the records of the three (or more) tied teams will be compared based on the best cumulative conference winning percentage of all conference opponents, regardless of how many conference opponents each team played. If winning percentage is equal for all conference opponents, move to next step in tiebreaker.
5. The representative will be chosen by the by the highest ranking by SportSourceAnalytics (team Rating Score metric) following the regular season.
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If Georgia hangs on the rankings should be interesting to see what they do with Georgia, Ole Miss, Bama and Tennessee--who do they jump and what's the order
Agree. Tenn wins and they jump us. We possibly never jump back over them even if they would lose the ccg.
If we were all being real the top 12 should be
Oregon
Ohio State
Penn State
Texas
Alabama
Ole Miss
Georgia
Tennessee
Indiana (smoke and mirrors which we'll see next Saturday--too bad we don't play them)
BYU (smoke and mirrors--hopefully that's exposed tonight)
Notre Dame (NIU loss)
SMU (best of the ACC) or A&M
Oregon
Ohio State
Penn State
Texas
Alabama
Ole Miss
Georgia
Tennessee
Indiana (smoke and mirrors which we'll see next Saturday--too bad we don't play them)
BYU (smoke and mirrors--hopefully that's exposed tonight)
Notre Dame (NIU loss)
SMU (best of the ACC) or A&M
Tenn or Ole Miss is now odd team out on Tuesday. Another playoff committee dumb decision allows Boise in.
I think Boise State will be 3rd and Tennessee will be the team out--but that will all sort itself out
If I'm ND I'm worried
Tenn needs help and running out of time. I think they get in if Bama or Ole Miss loses ccg. ND losing. Texas losing to A&M and in ccg.
Indiana a lock in that scenario as long as they look respectable vs OSU.
I think USC has a good shot to best ND.
Interesting thing will be how they treat a 3 loss SEC ccg loser.
Good news for us. Now seems certain that the Big-12 will only get one team into the playoffs regardless of what happens in their CCG. Same for the ACC. Plus SEC gets 4. Big-10 gets 4. Notre Dame. The 5th conference winner. There's 12.
Stand by the for the SEC propaganda machine to go into overdrive demanding to take one of the Big-10's spots. It's already started.
The SEC could get 10 teams into the playoffs and their fans would still complain about something. Similar to how we just pummeled Purdue for 4 quarters yet most of the comments in the game thread were complaining about something.
