Parsons, Brooks, B.Smith looks on paper like maybe a best ever.......
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Conner Lee and Poz would like to speak with you.
While I’m excited to seen the influx of talent at the LB position, let’s pump the brakes until they all play a couple of seasons.
Or let’s have a lb coach that can coach. All that talent will go nowhere methinks.
What’s Vanderlindens number at Air Force?
What’s Vanderlindens number at Air Force?
And they had to stick Tim Shaw at DE. Just to get him on the field. Wow what a unit of LB’s.
Dennis Onkotz and Jack Ham played side by side in 1968 and 1969. Add Kates and Smith and you have the best LB group anyone has ever seen.
Arrington, Short & Morrison were a pretty good LB combo as well.
Conlin, Bauer, Giftopolus holding on line 1........
Micah Parsons was coached into being a freshman All-American in the first year ever playing the position. Cam Brown has developed from a talented athlete into a future NFL linebacker.
There has never been a better athlete play LB at PSU than Lavar. He made freaks look like chumps. Others were more technically sound at the position, but none before him or since has matched his athleticism.
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Navarro Bowman was intertwined with this group as well.
Is it possible this next group is possibly the best group ever? I guess so. But Parsons is the only one who has actually done anything of consequence on the field and it was nowhere near the standard of the others noted in this thread. Presumably, he has two more years to get there but he has a long way to go.
I'll agree with you when a Penn State linebacker not named Parsons is drafted in the first three rounds.
As it's not happened since Vanderlinden left, I consider the jury being out with the current LB coaching.
Conner, Lee and Poz were heat seeking missiles that tackled. I couldn't wait to see the defense back on the field they were so much fun to watch
Not sold on Cam Brown being any part of a discussion of a grouping of best LB's, nor am I sold on him being much of anything in the NFL yet. He still has a lot of work to do, mostly getting his head out of his a$$. He still takes bad angles, gets engulfed in the run game at times and often has reckless form when tackling, displayed perfectly at the bowl game. I'm not even sold by next year he is the best of the 3 LBs PSU could field.
His targeting was bad.....his demeanor as he left the field was embarrassingly pathetic.
He's been suspended earlier this year (Rutgers game then came in and got embarrassed on film in second half), benched other occasions, got lucky not being called for targeting at least two other times this year. Manny Bowen Lite but not as good a player. Depending on development of B.Smith and Dixon, he may find himself as a Koa Farmer rotational player next year. And like Koa, the only reason he may be in the forks is because he's a senior and JF too loyal. But Koa is a great kid, not sure JF would feel he owes it to CB the same.
Josh Hull who was also drafted and played 4 years in the NFL.
Graham made the stop in Miami (Short and Arrington were on sideline) in the game that Thompson hit Chafie for the long TD
All the older guys will always be better than the current guys. All the past coaches are better than the current ones. Now get off my lawn!!
No. Conner had more (and possibly Lee) and came in as an instinctual LB. He did not take many bad angles, run around blocks, etc and was good in pass coverage. Hopefully these things will be corrected with experience, because Parsons has the superior athleticism.
Yes, was always around the ball from the beginning. It is amazing to think that he also had Lee, Poz, and Bowman on those teams, plus some damn good DL.
That's why is painful to watch the LBs today. They actually run away from plays at them at times, making it unnecessary to block them. And that includes all of the LBs that played this year. Johnson was by far the best with respect to attempting to fill the right gap.
Hoping what we saw from Brooks in the bowl game is a harbinger of things to come. His fill on a key 3rd down was textbook.
Absolutely agree 100%. That egregious PF/targeting incident on Tuesday was right in front us. Incredibly stupid - right up there with that ridiculous PF he got from spearing that guy on the ground last season.
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