Patrick Kelly commits to Penn State Hoops
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Read Nate's article - seems like he had the attention of some great programs. Welcome!!
I watched the game last night. The system seemed to be to run the clock under 10 sec. and chuck up a ball at the basket and pray that it goes in. At least that appeared to be the 2nd half system.
Yep, my plan would have been to post up Harrah against a 1st rounder, or tell Davis to take the lottery pick that was guarding him off the dribble. Too bad our system didn't take advantage of all the mismatches we had out there in the second half.
Last night was a lot more about talent than X's and O's. Thought our coaches did a great job putting us in the position that we were in.
I'm not going to pretend to know anything about the kid. The offer/interest list is underwhelming but if we're taking him THIS early in the process the staff must see something they like. Hopefully they're right
You are welcome General Babble!!!
There are more than a couple first round and lottery picks on the MSU team, so you have to be more specific...
His dad was a TE for Syracuse and played for the Broncos and Jets. Passed away at 37 from cancer.
I think that Nevada vs. Rhode Island is fairly national... or is that just a region of this country? ;-)
I'm willing to wait on the kid - he did have some interest from big time programs (Purdue, OSU, GTown, Wake Forest), so there must at least be some potential there.
As for the comment above about not being ranked, this early on, being all that you need to know -- I tend to gauge a kid by the schools interested/offering him, rather than some stars put up by some "experts." Star ratings are a crap shoot (then again, recruiting in general can be a crap shoot).
By national recruit I was referring to a player that has opportunities to play for power 5 teams, or for consistent top programs such as Buttler and others. Even Rhode Island, who was an 11 seed in last year's NCAA tourney. There are always diamond in the rough and late blooming playrers, but with the exposure of AAU teams the better players are known. Right now Pat's roster needs a big man that can play ASAP.
Not from a geographic point of view.........
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I think a welcome to Penn State would be sufficient.. hope he has a ton of success
That's what the wink was for... I was joking around. I know what you are referring to. He did draw interest from some good national schools (Ohio State, Purdue, GTown, Wake) and held offers from lesser, but still relevant, schools (UNLV, PC). I would say to hold udgement until more is known about this player. Welcome to the team, Patrick!
Don't have to pretend he is, just not stupid enough to think that's the be all, end all. Are you?
Neither is that linebacker our football coach just offered. The kid is in the 2019 class. Not everyone is ranked yet.
Whatever you do, don’t ever underestimate my stupidity. I mean, we are a bunch of non-experts discussing high-school kids we’ve never seen. It is important that someone insult someone else in a pointless attempt to be proven right about the kid at this very moment.
NEVER. CRTICICIZE. CHAMBERS.
NEVER. CRITICIZE. A. PENN. STATE. RECRUIT.
I have no concerns with Franklin given what he has accomplished the past few seasons.
Kelly and Dread played for the same D.C.-area AAU team, Team Loaded. Chambers has probably watched Team Loaded play more than a dozen times against some of the best AAU teams in the country. They know what they're getting in Kelly, but they certainly do seem to have had an affinity for stretch fours with projectible range lately. I think the staff had their eye on this kid for a while as they chased bigger targets, but finally pulled the trigger on an offer when the high majors started to sniff around over the past few weeks.
Whatever you do, don’t ever underestimate my stupidity. I mean, we are a bunch of non-experts discussing high-school kids we’ve never seen. It is important that someone insult someone else in a pointless attempt to be proven right about the kid at this very moment.
NEVER. CRTICICIZE. CHAMBERS.
NEVER. CRITICIZE. A. PENN. STATE. RECRUIT.
Yeah none of that is what I said, I've criticized recruits and I've criticized chambers plenty, so try a different angle, your narrative is make believe. I have no idea if the kid is any good, I just know saying if he's not ranked means he must suck is stupid.
I don't know anything about Kelly, but I know a lot about Ed Cooley. PC has been to the NCAA three years in a row going for four, and has made hay on DC-area players. They're not here to get a check - their goal each year is to be at the top of the BE and make a deep run in the Tournament. Sometimes they get there and sometimes they don't - but take a look at the level of talent they've had the last five years or so since Ed took over.
If Ed wanted him, then you can be certain Kelly has potential to be a major-conference player.
If Ed wanted him, then you can be certain Kelly has potential to be a major-conference player.
Yep.. totally agree.. Ed Cooley is excellent at finding underrated talent. The Richmond coach as well, one of the better in the A-10 at finding freshmen who contribute instantly.
The really good P5 programs are interested in kids of Kelly's caliber and keep in contact, but they often hold out offering a scholarship as they are still fishing for blue chips at this stage of their recruitment.
Good shooting stretch fours have decent floors and high ceilings This is a good pick up.
There's nothing wrong with locking up Ohio State, Purdue, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma State B plans. They are often much better prospects than the scraps we used to fight Duquesne, LaSalle, Drexel, and Rutgers for.
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Or, we can pretend that our basketball program has the cachet to bring in 4 and 5 star recruits and then look down upon the recruits who want to play basketball for Penn State but aren't ranked as high as we would like.
BTW, this kid was reportedly one of the top players in Arizona for his class but moved to VA but hasn't taken off in the rankings. He is a two star by at least one service. Also, he plays for the same highly competitive AAU team as some of our other recruits, so I'm pretty sure Chambers knew a good bit about his ability and potential when we made the offer.
But you are right, lets keep focusing on those 5 star kids and then complain when they go to Duke or Kentucky.
It comes back to Chambers not being the guy. I'm tired of the the limited trajectory of the program. The program needs a step change at the top.
WHO. COULD. THEY. POSSIBLY. HIRE. ?
THERE. IS. NO. ONE. OUT. THERE.
There is also an Anthony Carr, but some seem to call him Tony for some reason...
There's a difference between misspelling someone's name and using their nickname.
Good God. Try typing Davis Zemgulis into Google and see what you get.
FYI...if someone types "Tone" Carr instead of Tony, it's also not a misspelling.
Point taken.
But with a roster that now includes a couple 3 and 4 star players, it is not unreasonable to believe that legit 3 star players would want to join them. Especially big men, where other than Watkins Pat has consistently had to take project type players.....
Or if we were at pitt, we could be hoping for the star players that are ranked just below being 4 star players, but that really are 4 star players....
No one here is expecting Pat to pull players away from UNC, Duke, UK, Kansas or any of the other top 15 programs..........
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