Penn State’s former outside general counsel Wendell Courtney advised former VP Gary Schultz....
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That's how we know they're lying!
Everyone's actions for 10 years (including Mike McQueary) suggest horseplay.
Didn't want to say he thought Harmon did?
No idea. However, if it can be established that Harmon was informed, the whole matter of 'failure to report' becomes moot.
I would bet my keister that TH was informed. TC and GS told WC, GS and JR.....but never bothered to mention, even in passing to TH?
Below are Schultz's notes from 2/25, following the meeting between Gary, Tim and Graham.
3) Tell Chair* of Board of Second Mile
2) Report to Dept. of Welfare
1) Tell J.S. to avoid bringing children alone into Lasch Bldg.d
* Who is chair??
Rather than action steps, I believe this was a list of options. WC testified that he told Schultz the smart thing to do was to report, but that it wasn't mandatory. I believe by 'smart', WC was suggesting that if the main focus was to protect PSU, then just throw Jerry and TSM under the bus, but legally, it wasn't their only option.
It should be clear to anyone who has read the emails and notes from 2001 that reporting to DPW was an option that never left the table. However, that option was always contingent upon Jerry's future behavior, not what he had already done. The consensus, IMO, was that it would be preferable to take measures that would prevent a subsequent event without doing harm to Jerry's reputation and that of TSM. In that context, consider Spanier's comment from his email to Tim and Gary:
"...The approach you outline is humane and a reasonable way to proceed."
3) Tell Chair* of Board of Second Mile
2) Report to Dept. of Welfare
1) Tell J.S. to avoid bringing children alone into Lasch Bldg.d
* Who is chair??
Rather than action steps, I believe this was a list of options. WC testified that he told Schultz the smart thing to do was to report, but that it wasn't mandatory. I believe by 'smart', WC was suggesting that if the main focus was to protect PSU, then just throw Jerry and TSM under the bus, but legally, it wasn't their only option.
It should be clear to anyone who has read the emails and notes from 2001 that reporting to DPW was an option that never left the table. However, that option was always contingent upon Jerry's future behavior, not what he had already done. The consensus, IMO, was that it would be preferable to take measures that would prevent a subsequent event without doing harm to Jerry's reputation and that of TSM. In that context, consider Spanier's comment from his email to Tim and Gary:
"...The approach you outline is humane and a reasonable way to proceed."
now Guns come on, I will say if there is an NCAA rule relative to eligibility, transfers, extra benefits etc etc. Lar knowledge is next to none. I will stop there.
I'm not sure. Don't get me wrong. I think they all, including MM, did the right thing back in '01. But it occurs to me that once Harmon is brought into the loop, he is obligated to launch an investigation or at least report to DPW. I just think they were sufficiently confident that no abuse had occurred and rescinding Jerry's guest privileges was sufficient, so long as "our message is "heard" and acted upon".
Good point. Larry is extremely well-versed in NCAA rules. He is also quite well versed in numbers and probabilities, and had he simply left it there, rather than commit his knowledge to apologist politicking, I would have given him credit for that also.
Mike actually did convey exactly what Dr Dranov says: Mike heard slapping sounds later described by Mike as "rhythmic and sexual" leading him to "visualize" something sexual We learn there were 2 or 3 slapping sounds
So here you are hearing a guy talk about a 45 second visit to a locker room
He hears 2 or 3 slapping sounds - it's 9:30pm - he thinks maybe 2 adults are having sex in the shower. - he says he glanced at the shower area through a mirror
He saw a boy's head look out - He saw an arm pull the boy back in
Because he assumed 'something sexual' was happening due to his "visualizations" and the sounds - he jumps to the conclusion the boy was involved.
That's why Dr. Dranov keeps asking "what did you see"
There is nothing about penetration and Dranov gets that the sounds and visualizations led MM to think "sex act" Dranov doesn't leap to the sexual connotation.
this is the thing you have to keep in mind - This is Jerry Sandusky founder of The Second Mile - assistant coach of the year 1999 - it's going to take some evidence to make this guy into a pedophile in 2001. Dranov doesn't see how Mike jumped to sex
He asks - did the boy look distressed? NO fearful? NO so what did you see?
Each time Mike goes back to the sounds.
You seem to think MM trying to convey sexual means something more than what Dranov seems to see as an overactive imagination. I think it was an overactive imagination.
EXACTLY Wish I had read this prior to my reply - because this is exactly how I read Dr. Dranov's testimony --- backed up by his actions - or rather lack of action. If he believed Mike was adequately providing evidence of sexual molestation he would have insisted on calling police
I'll repeat this for about the tenth time. THE ONLY REASON I brought this up was that a poster tried to claim that "Dranov was assured that no assault occurred". There's no way in hell that Dranov's statements can be interpreted that way. Forget about whether you agree with my interpretation or not. Just assure me that you don't agree with the OP's assertion.
Even if you believe that to be true, let me remind you of the old adage: "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". Even if Dranov felt there wasn't enough evidence to call the police, that is not evidence that no assault actually occurred.
