Great article, really. THIS is the year. And, not being able to run the ball the "last few years" is scary because "the last few years" include Barkley and Sanders. While we've got a stable of very good RBs, I don't see any of them being as good as Barkley and Sanders the last three years. I am happy to be wrong on that.Feature: Forward Thinkers
Matt Herb
Blue White Illustrated
The caveat to all of the happy talk on media day was that it’s now been nearly three years since the Nittany Lions have won a championship. But because they came tantalizingly close to the Big Ten Championship Game the past two years, losing four regular-season games to Ohio State and Michigan State by a combined margin of nine points, those seasons are viewed by some as missed opportunities rather than as part of a more general upward trend.
Which brings us back to those championship habits that Franklin and his staff are looking to instill. The biggest disappointment of Penn State’s past two seasons (three if you count the Rose Bowl loss to USC in January 2017) was the team’s habit of faltering in the fourth quarter of games that it could have won. In those four games vs. the Buckeyes and Spartans, PSU was outscored 45-19 in the fourth quarter. If you subtract last year’s come-from-ahead loss to Ohio State, in which they scored two touchdowns prior to the Buckeyes’ rally, the Lions’ output dips to six points in three games.
As those six points indicate, part of the solution to the team’s fourth-quarter malaise involves the offense. The Lions haven’t run the ball consistently the past few years, and that’s an especially glaring weakness when you’re clinging to a late lead and are trying to shorten the game.
But there’s another way of looking at all this, and that is to put those disappointments into context. Penn State is one of only six teams to finish in the top 15 of the Associated Press poll each of the past three seasons. Its past three recruiting classes have ranked among the top dozen in the country according to Rivals.com, and its 2020 class, despite a number of early-summer defections, is rated 12th nationally. What’s more, its average attendance of 105,485 per game was second-best in the country last season, trailing only Michigan. There aren’t a whole lot of programs in college football where those sorts of accomplishments would be considered a mixed bag.
The answers to all those questions are forthcoming. If they’re the kind of answers Franklin and his staff have been seeking, they’ll be able to keep the positive vibes reverberating into the regular season.
Team talent composite. PSU is #5 in the nation with 49 four or five star players. They are #8 in average player ranking.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
ITS AN 8-4 TEAM THOUGH!!
Team talent composite. PSU is #5 in the nation with 49 four or five star players. They are #8 in average player ranking.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
The 2016 team was similarly young at the skill positions. The difference may be that the 2016 schedule had Pitt (who was actually favored in that game) and Michigan in the first four games. Trace and the offense as a whole didn't begin to find their stride until halftime of the Minnesota game that year.
We also had the best college RB in a decade or more. I am not saying that guy isn't on our team but it is just "hope". And "hope" is not a "plan."That 2016 team also had a lot of inexperience in the defensive front 7 (especially after injuries). They lost to Pitt because they couldn't stop the run in the 1st half against a very good Pitt OL. This year PSU's got experience and physical maturity on the DL.
If they stay healthy, this D could just overwhelm every OL they play till they get to Iowa. Pitt will try to run the ball but it doesn't sound like they have the horses this year.
The soft early season is probably a blessing for an offense that has talent but needs game reps. Still, when you hit the heart of the B1G, when you face Chase Young and Epenesa, it's almost a totally different game.
I think we as fans are a bit gun shy. The bad losses last year vs The big three in our division and the bowl loss has everyone second questing. In reality, we have been reloading up to OSU and Mich. standards and have decent experience to go with the quality young talent. If other talent rich programs can complete on a yearly basis while losing talented players, then so should we. IMO, the plan is reload. If we have a sub par season, then you need to start looking at coaching as the problem.We also had the best college RB in a decade or more. I am not saying that guy isn't on our team but it is just "hope". And "hope" is not a "plan."
totally agree. Interestingly, we've outperformed UM in recent years given the sanctions. (we, at least, won one B1G and beat ohio state this decade). But until you've done it, you haven't done it. Was 2016 the Barkley/JoeMo show or was it CJF? I think it was a lot to do with CJF but don't know for sure. some of the fourth quarters against USC, tOSU and MSU have me scratching my head.I think we as fans are a bit gun shy. The bad losses last year vs The big three in our division and the bowl loss has everyone second questing. In reality, we have been reloading up to OSU and Mich. standards and have decent experience to go with the quality young talent. If other talent rich programs can complete on a yearly basis while losing talented players, then so should we. IMO, the plan is reload. If we have a sub par season, then you need to start looking at coaching as the problem.
Wasn’t Moorhead the guy running the fourth quarter offense during those head scratchers in the USC game and the 2017 OSU and MSU games?totally agree. Interestingly, we've outperformed UM in recent years given the sanctions. (we, at least, won one B1G and beat ohio state this decade). But until you've done it, you haven't done it. Was 2016 the Barkley/JoeMo show or was it CJF? I think it was a lot to do with CJF but don't know for sure. some of the fourth quarters against USC, tOSU and MSU have me scratching my head.
I think we as fans are a bit gun shy. The bad losses last year vs The big three in our division and the bowl loss has everyone second questing. In reality, we have been reloading up to OSU and Mich. standards and have decent experience to go with the quality young talent. If other talent rich programs can complete on a yearly basis while losing talented players, then so should we. IMO, the plan is reload. If we have a sub par season, then you need to start looking at coaching as the problem.
so, by your logic, it can't have happened against tOSU last year because JoeMo wasn't there?Wasn’t Moorhead the guy running the fourth quarter offense during those head scratchers in the USC game and the 2017 OSU and MSU games?
I don't disagree. to add to that, some of the best recruiting classes in the school's history.This. You've tapped into the discontentment felt over the past 8-10 months. The Snooze Fest that was the Citrus Bowl against a lackluster opponent, the loss of Bresee and F*****g, the horrible shortfall against o$u, the destruction by scUM, the baffling losses to mSu back-to-back, the drops, the coaching issues, the ST issues -- all of this has really impacted the fan based and a lot of the media AND makes the 8-4 type projections seem logical and reasonable. But, I think the team is really hungry, really close. I think they have some great leadership. I think this will be a really big year this year.
Great article, really. THIS is the year. And, not being able to run the ball the "last few years" is scary because "the last few years" include Barkley and Sanders. While we've got a stable of very good RBs, I don't see any of them being as good as Barkley and Sanders the last three years. I am happy to be wrong on that.
No. Franklin puts his faith in his coordinators to call games. Moorhead made a bunch of good calls for us and he deserves credit for that - and it ultimately got him a job in the SEC. Moorhead also made the offensive calls in the fourth quarter against USC, MSU and OSU.so, by your logic, it can't have happened against tOSU last year because JoeMo wasn't there?
It's not one factor, it is many. At the head, is CJF. Can he successfully establish, lead and maintain a tOSU-like program? CJF hired JoeMo and had the authority to tell him what to do. that was, overall, a successful combination.
It's never consistent with fans. They are fickle and just need someone to blame after a loss. If people still think Franklin cannot coach after his time at Vandy and his time at PSU thus far, they are a bit off IMO.No. Franklin puts his faith in his coordinators to call games. Moorhead made a bunch of good calls for us and he deserves credit for that - and it ultimately got him a job in the SEC. Moorhead also made the offensive calls in the fourth quarter against USC, MSU and OSU.
Franklin owns the ultimate results though, good and bad - I just find it a little confusing how some of our fans (not necessarily you Obvi) tend to put the good results on Moorhead and the bad results on Franklin. It doesn’t seem to be consistent to me.
Miranda is pushing Gonzo. LG is "OR".