Penn State preview from Washington blog...

[Judge Smails]

Pretty fair overall take....

https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2017/12...g-penn-state-nittany-lions-washington-huskies

First Look: a preview of the Penn State Nittany Lions

Is Penn State the “UW of the B1G”?
By Chris Landon@chrislandon Dec 10, 2017, 6:34am PST TWEET

RB Saquon Barkley is the straw that stirs the drink in the Penn State offense.

The statistical analyses bear out this mano y mano equality in just about every conceivable fashion. The most interesting to me is the story told by the advanced stats. On an overall S&P+ basis - a measurement of opponent-adjusted per play success and efficiency - UW ranks #4 overall in the nation behind Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia. Penn State? They are ranked #5.

TE Mike Gesicki leads Penn State with 9 TD receptions.
Matthew O'Haren-USA TODAY Sports
When you dive deeper into those numbers, you see those consistencies maintained. Penn State is almost perfectly balanced ranking 12th in both offensive and defensive S&P+ while UW is a just a tad bit more skewed at 23rd and 4th, respectively.


You can read the rest. The only real

...part is this....


The chink in the armor here is that Penn State is not terribly deep on defense. Their rotations aren’t as extensive as we are used to seeing here in the PAC and, as a result, they tend to either wear down the starters as the game goes on or lean more heavily on less experienced reserves. Either way, opponents tend to score more points and generate more big plays in the second half against Penn State.

If UW is close going into the fourth, they will definitely have a depth advantage. This could well translate into anywhere between a 3 and 10 point net scoring advantage assuming UW makes the requisite investments in the rushing attack early in the game. The key for UW will be to make this a physical game in order to test that Penn State depth.

We rotate 1st through 3rd string on the DL throughout the game, and play 10 guys or so in the secondary. A couple of backup linebackers play, depending on where we are with injuries and suspensions.

 

[PSUArnie]

The ghost of the Nebraska second half!!!

 

[psuro]

SMH

Up by at least two scores at halftime or 3rd against Akron Pitt Ga State Northwestern Michigan OSU Rutgers Nebraska and Narylsnd.

Only OSU and Nebraska mounted second half scores of any note.

 

[Frabjous]

Would anyone else like Penn State to play a home-and-home with the Huskies? Seattle is a great place, very beautiful, and you can sail a boat to the Huskies’ Stadium. And there are other uh, amenities, which you will not find in Pa.

 

[BobPSU92]

Would anyone else like Penn State to play a home-and-home with the Huskies? Seattle is a great place, very beautiful, and you can sail a boat to the Huskies’ Stadium. And there are other uh, amenities, which you will not find in Pa.

Seattle is home to the original Starbucks. See some history, grab a latte and a scone.

 

[Obliviax]

Pretty fair overall take....

https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2017/12...g-penn-state-nittany-lions-washington-huskies

First Look: a preview of the Penn State Nittany Lions

Is Penn State the “UW of the B1G”?
By Chris Landon@chrislandon Dec 10, 2017, 6:34am PST TWEET

RB Saquon Barkley is the straw that stirs the drink in the Penn State offense.

The statistical analyses bear out this mano y mano equality in just about every conceivable fashion. The most interesting to me is the story told by the advanced stats. On an overall S&P+ basis - a measurement of opponent-adjusted per play success and efficiency - UW ranks #4 overall in the nation behind Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia. Penn State? They are ranked #5.

TE Mike Gesicki leads Penn State with 9 TD receptions.
Matthew O'Haren-USA TODAY Sports
When you dive deeper into those numbers, you see those consistencies maintained. Penn State is almost perfectly balanced ranking 12th in both offensive and defensive S&P+ while UW is a just a tad bit more skewed at 23rd and 4th, respectively.


You can read the rest. The only real

...part is this....


The chink in the armor here is that Penn State is not terribly deep on defense. Their rotations aren’t as extensive as we are used to seeing here in the PAC and, as a result, they tend to either wear down the starters as the game goes on or lean more heavily on less experienced reserves. Either way, opponents tend to score more points and generate more big plays in the second half against Penn State.

If UW is close going into the fourth, they will definitely have a depth advantage. This could well translate into anywhere between a 3 and 10 point net scoring advantage assuming UW makes the requisite investments in the rushing attack early in the game. The key for UW will be to make this a physical game in order to test that Penn State depth.

We rotate 1st through 3rd string on the DL throughout the game, and play 10 guys or so in the secondary. A couple of backup linebackers play, depending on where we are with injuries and suspensions.

Analysis via statistics. They didn't see the game so aren't attributing fourth quarters to our second and third team defense being in.

I'll be upset if a West coast team can sustain a ground game against us.

 

[blion72]

Analysis via statistics. They didn't see the game so aren't attributing fourth quarters to our second and third team defense being in.

I'll be upset if a West coast team can sustain a ground game against us.

we should be able to control the UW ground game. equally the DL of UW will most likely dominate our OL, so would be surprised if we get over 100 yds rushing on them. game likely to come down to passing and who can protect their QB

 

[psuro]

Seattle is home to the original Starbucks. See some history, grab a latte and a scone.

I would like to make a pilgrimage to the Hendrix gravesite.

Eat a plout

And for a dose of culture visit the Canadian Ballet.

Catch a fish. But not a cold.

 

[canuckhal]

Another difference is that this one game after a long break. Defense wears down with injuries as the season goes on. One reason why you don't know what you got until November rolls around. I don't think rotations are as important in one game, but Washington is more run oriented with twice as many runs as passes and seem to have a good rotation of backs.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

I'd love to see a home-and-home with UW.

Quick trivia (don't Google or other search engine): How many former UW players can you name?
Steve Emtman
Cory Dillon
Jake Browning
I'm spent...

(BTW mean no disrespect to the Huskies. Just can't think off the top of my head of many well known former players. Maybe just really bad memory.).

 

[Nitwit97]

Warren Moon
Sidney Jones
Settled Schrempf - I know I know, football only, but I was tapped!!

 

[Nitwit97]

Warren Moon
Sidney Jones
Detlef Schrempf - I know I know, football only, but I was tapped!!

 

[lein]

I'd love to see a home-and-home with UW.

Quick trivia (don't Google or other search engine): How many former UW players can you name?
Steve Emtman
Cory Dillon
Jake Browning
I'm spent...

(BTW mean no disrespect to the Huskies. Just can't think off the top of my head of many well known former players. Maybe just really bad memory.).

Warren Moon, Napoleon McCallum(sp?)

Their on field mascot isn’t even a Husky, it’s a Malamute

 

[LionJim]

Warren Moon, Napoleon McCallum(sp?)

Their on field mascot isn’t even a Husky, it’s a Malamute

Napoleon McCallum? Who he actually played for will come to you, but it wasn't for Washington. Hint: he played near Washington.

 

[BarryPSU]

Napoleon McCallum? Who he actually played for will come to you, but it wasn't for Washington. Hint: he played near Washington.

NAVY with Washington being DC

 

[Pocono Lion]

Napoleon McCallum? Who he actually played for will come to you, but it wasn't for Washington. Hint: he played near Washington.

OP was probably thinking of Napoleon Kaufman.

 

[olelion]

we should be able to control the UW ground game. equally the DL of UW will most likely dominate our OL, so would be surprised if we get over 100 yds rushing on them. game likely to come down to passing and who can protect their QB

The UW defense against the run is very, very good. So I'm wondering if they have anything near a blind faith confidence in their defense and don't key on Barkley (ala Iowa). We just might see Barkley get to the edge. Just want to see him loose one more time.

 

[BobPSU92]

I would like to make a pilgrimage to the Hendrix gravesite.

Eat a plout

And for a dose of culture visit the Canadian Ballet.

Catch a fish. But not a cold.

We have very different definitions of Seattle.

 

[psuro]

We have very different definitions of Seattle.

You want to catch a cold?

 

[psuro]

I'd love to see a home-and-home with UW.

Quick trivia (don't Google or other search engine): How many former UW players can you name?
Steve Emtman
Cory Dillon
Jake Browning
I'm spent...

(BTW mean no disrespect to the Huskies. Just can't think off the top of my head of many well known former players. Maybe just really bad memory.).

Steve Pelluer
Mark Brunell


All I got

 

[djr4rebs]

If they questioned our depth in the article, I'm willing to bet they watched our game vs OSU and it only. We lost Buckholz on the first defensive series, we were already missing Brown, and we did not sub as much because when you are missing two DEs, the 1st string at that, your rotation gets altered. With Givens splitting time inside and out, we relied on the Cochran's more and seemed to sub less than usual. I don't remember us subbing in the secondary as much against the Buckeyes as we did the rest of the year either.

We probably subbed as much as anybody did, PAC12 or otherwise, all year long except for the OSU game.

 

[Frabjous]

Steve Pelluer
Mark Brunell


All I got

Best football name ever: Sonny Sixkiller

 

[LionJim]

Best football name ever: Sonny Sixkiller

He's from way back.

 

[LionJim]

OP was probably thinking of Napoleon Kaufman.

Good catch. I was scratching my head.

 

[psuro]

Good catch. I was scratching my head.

Stop doing that. You'll get a rash.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

I remember at one point Peterson was rumored to be in the PSU head coach running (before BOB was announced). Wonder if ol' Chrome Dome ever actually contacted him (not that it matters anymore).

 

[BrianS]

Best football name ever: Sonny Sixkiller

WIthout looking it up, but, wasn't Sixkiller from Wash. State? Now I'm going to look it up!
Upon further review, the call on the field STANDS!
Sixkiller did attend The University of Washington!

 

[psuro]

I remember at one point Peterson was rumored to be in the PSU head coach running (before BOB was announced). Wonder if ol' Chrome Dome ever actually contacted him (not that it matters anymore).

He was never in the running. Just in the minds and hopes of internet fans.

 

[RU31trap]

Very much looking forward to this game. Should be a great game!!

 

[NedFromYork]

Will Manny Bowen play in the bowl game?

 

[GregInPitt]

Interesting that the summary had UW with a depth advantage, especially on defense. About the only position that PSU is not deep at on defense is LB. And if Bowen plays and no one gets hurt, PSU is plenty deep there as well. Especially considering the 5 DB formations, although since UW stresses the run PSU may play more traditional 3 LB formations than we usually see. Cabinda, Smith, Bowen, Brown, and Farmer form a nice rotational group against a running team. And the secondary is deep, and very good against the run. Allen, Apke, Scott and Monroe at Safety. And Haley, Campbell, Oruwaiye, CF and Wade at CB.

There are some better DL's in the B10, oh-high-ya and UM, but PSU has 5 legit DT's, with Cothren, Cothran, Chavis, Windsor, and Givens (moving inside on passing downs). Chavis has particularly improved this season to where he may be the best NFL prospect of the 3 that graduate this year.

About the only game where our D really wore down was against oh-high-ya, and that was due to injuries. Buchholz going out early was especially bad for PSU as we could not generate a pass rush in the 2nd half with the undersized Toney having to take too many snaps, as well as Simmons. But if the DL is healthy we should have plenty of depth in the bowl. And the experience that Toney and Simmons got, in addition to Givens now getting more snaps at DE than at DT, should prevent the kind of 2nd half collapse that we saw against oh-high-ya....

 

[lein]

OP was probably thinking of Napoleon Kaufman.

Yeah, that is it, I knew there was a Nepoleon from UDub back in the day

 

[ApexLion]

Steve Pelluer
Mark Brunell


All I got

WR Spider Gaines

DT Cliff Bethea from...Harrisburg, PA

They were on that wonderful 8-4 1977 team that beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl. Good times. Still remember Bo storming the sidelines in yet another bowl upset.

 

[BBrown]

Pretty fair overall take....

https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2017/12...g-penn-state-nittany-lions-washington-huskies

First Look: a preview of the Penn State Nittany Lions

Is Penn State the “UW of the B1G”?
By Chris Landon@chrislandon Dec 10, 2017, 6:34am PST TWEET

RB Saquon Barkley is the straw that stirs the drink in the Penn State offense.

The statistical analyses bear out this mano y mano equality in just about every conceivable fashion. The most interesting to me is the story told by the advanced stats. On an overall S&P+ basis - a measurement of opponent-adjusted per play success and efficiency - UW ranks #4 overall in the nation behind Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia. Penn State? They are ranked #5.

TE Mike Gesicki leads Penn State with 9 TD receptions.
Matthew O'Haren-USA TODAY Sports
When you dive deeper into those numbers, you see those consistencies maintained. Penn State is almost perfectly balanced ranking 12th in both offensive and defensive S&P+ while UW is a just a tad bit more skewed at 23rd and 4th, respectively.


You can read the rest. The only real

...part is this....


The chink in the armor here is that Penn State is not terribly deep on defense. Their rotations aren’t as extensive as we are used to seeing here in the PAC and, as a result, they tend to either wear down the starters as the game goes on or lean more heavily on less experienced reserves. Either way, opponents tend to score more points and generate more big plays in the second half against Penn State.

If UW is close going into the fourth, they will definitely have a depth advantage. This could well translate into anywhere between a 3 and 10 point net scoring advantage assuming UW makes the requisite investments in the rushing attack early in the game. The key for UW will be to make this a physical game in order to test that Penn State depth.

We rotate 1st through 3rd string on the DL throughout the game, and play 10 guys or so in the secondary. A couple of backup linebackers play, depending on where we are with injuries and suspensions.

+1. I also don't agree with Barkely being the straw that stirs the drink (I've never really understood that line anyway) but its Trace that stirs the drink.

 

[CoastFan]

Would anyone else like Penn State to play a home-and-home with the Huskies? Seattle is a great place, very beautiful, and you can sail a boat to the Huskies’ Stadium. And there are other uh, amenities, which you will not find in Pa.

I live in the area. There's this aspect too:

https://seattle.eater.com/maps/best-seattle-breweries

These are the best breweries, according to Eater. There are many more in the greater Seattle metro area.

There was a post in the thread about Udub players of fame. One point of interest is the lineage of Husky QBs who were drafted by the NFL without a break from 1980 (Tom Flick) through 2002 (Cody Pickett). Some lasted little more than a year or two on NFL rosters while others had fine careers. I don't believe there's any other school with such a run. This doesn't include Warren Moon or Jack Locher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Washington_Huskies_starting_quarterbacks

Life isn't all wine (or coffee) and roses though. There's this:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...expensive-in-u-s-tacoma-joins-1000-rent-club/


It's driven by this which is largely driven by Amazon:

https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...ry-for-2nd-year-in-a-row-and-lead-is-growing/

The cost of housing is starting to close in with CA cities. I fear it will overtake Boston and move into the # 4 slot by the end of next year at the earliest.

 

[OldTiredLion]

Best football name ever: Sonny Sixkiller

Sonny was also in the Burt Reynolds movie, The Longest Yard. He's #30 in the pic below...

 

[Judge Smails]

 

[Obliviax]

+1. I also don't agree with Barkely being the straw that stirs the drink (I've never really understood that line anyway) but its Trace that stirs the drink.

I means that a DE and all three linebackers follow Barkley so if you fake it to him, McS had five yards of open field and there are ample soft spots for the TE and WR's to exploit.

I think Sanders will be a very good RB but he won't be #26. And, as such, I don't feel like the QB, WR and TEs will have as much room to move.