Football Penn State remains in No. 4 in latest College Football Rankings (Week 14)

[Dylan Callaghan-Croley]

1. Oregon (11-0) ... No Change

2. Ohio State (10-1) ... No Change

3. Texas (10-1) ... No Change

4. Penn State (10-1) ... No Change

5. Notre Dame (10-1) ... Up 1

6. Miami (10-1) ... Up 2

7. Georgia (9-2) ... Up 3

8. Tennessee (9-2) ... Up 3

9. SMU (9-1-) ... Up 4

10. Indiana (10-1) ... Down 5

11. Boise State (10-1) ... Up 1

12. Clemson (9-2) ... Up 5

13. Alabama (8-3) ... Down 6

14. Ole Miss (8-3) ... Down 5

15. South Carolina (8-3) ... Up 3

16. Arizona State (9-2 ... Up 5

17. Tulane (9-2) ... Up 3

18. Iowa State (9-2) ... Up 4

19. BYU (9-2) ... Down 5

20. Texas A&M (8-3) ... Down 5

21. Missouri (8-3) ... Up 2

22. UNLV (9-2) ... Up 2

23. Illinois (8-3) ... Up 2

24. Kansas State (8-3) .... NEW

25. Colorado (8-3) ... Down 9

 

[AWS1022]

Let’s hope it ends up exactly like this week…then we play Indiana then Miami and we’re in the bracket with Texas and not Georgia or OSU….that would be ideal.

 

[doctornick]

I cannot imagine we’d play Indiana in the first round but if the rankings were something like this I think we’d be more likely to play the ACC title game loser (eg SMU)

 

[lazydave841]

Set the table for Tulane to possibly get in over a Big 12 champ.

Loss column is very important with Clemson over the SEC trio.

 

[Dylan Callaghan-Croley]

 

[Obliviax]

I’ll bet ND jumps is off they best USC handily

 

[mcpat]

Let’s hope it ends up exactly like this week…then we play Indiana then Miami and we’re in the bracket with Texas and not Georgia or OSU….that would be ideal.

Have to admit I like this draw… but Michigan over Ohio St and Penn St over MD puts us in B1G championship and a dub there makes us #1 seed and I’m all in on that.

 

[mcpat]

I’ll bet ND jumps is off they best USC handily

Maybe, but I think USC wins. Only home loss is PSU.

 

[doctornick]

Have to admit I like this draw… but Michigan over Ohio St and Penn St over MD puts us in B1G championship and a dub there makes us #1 seed and I’m all in on that.

Possibly #2 to Texas if they win out (could go either way) in that situation but yeah that would be cool.

 

[doctornick]

I’ll bet ND jumps is off they best USC handily

I don’t think so unless A&M beats Texas too.

 

[mcpat]

Possibly #2 to Texas if they win out (could go either way) in that situation but yeah that would be cool.

Hard for me to believe that the B1G champ isn’t #1 given the rankings to date.

 

[lazydave841]

Rematches are inevitable at some point if certain teams win, but the only shuffling that could be done initially is swap ND and UGA or Tennessee and SMU in this instance.

 

[doctornick]

Hard for me to believe that the B1G champ isn’t #1 given the rankings to date.

I don’t necessarily disagree but if Texas beats A&M then Georgia while we beat weak UMD then Oregon… and Texas is starting off higher than us right now. I’m just saying it could go either way.

That said, tOSU isn’t losing to Michigan.

 

[republion]

I cannot imagine we’d play Indiana in the first round but if the rankings were something like this I think we’d be more likely to play the ACC title game loser (eg SMU)

Why can’t you imagine we’d play Indiana?

 

[LandoComando]

I cannot imagine we’d play Indiana in the first round but if the rankings were something like this I think we’d be more likely to play the ACC title game loser (eg SMU)

Why? I'm not even sure the ACCCG loser is in

 

[mcpat]

A draw of Indiana then Miami and then Texas to championship game? Please let it work out that way!

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Set the table for Tulane to possibly get in over a Big 12 champ.

Loss column is very important with Clemson over the SEC trio.

I see it the opposite - they elevated ASU the most of the B12 and AAC teams (5 spots from #21 to #16 - Tulane only 3 spots to #17). ASU is the most likely of the B12 2-loss teams to be in B12 CCG.... this sets up a situation where the B12 CCG winner will be the 5th highest ranked Conference Champion.

 

[LandoComando]

Set the table for Tulane to possibly get in over a Big 12 champ.

Not really--maybe Iowa State

 

[LandoComando]

A draw of Indiana then Miami and then Texas to championship game? Please let it work out that way!

It's too good to happen lol

 

[doctornick]

Why? I'm not even sure the ACCCG loser is in

If SMU and Miami-FL win this weekend, the rankings today strongly suggest the loser of their game gets in.

I think the loser with end up as the #11 seed to avoid having Indiana play a B1G school.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Rematches are inevitable at some point if certain teams win, but the only shuffling that could be done initially is swap ND and UGA or Tennessee and SMU in this instance.

You think SMU still makes it if they lose to Miami in ACC CCG? I think Miami is high enough in the rankings that they still are in even if they lost CCG - less sure about SMU's fate if they lose in ACC CCG... although that may be why they have Clemson at 12 - theoretically this protects both ACC CCG participants as it sets a boundary that the ACC CCG loser can't fall below as Clemson didn't make the ACC CCG.

 

[LandoComando]

If SMU and Miami-FL win this weekend, the rankings today strongly suggest the loser of their game gets in.

I think the loser with end up as the #11 seed to avoid having Indiana play a B1G school.

They don't though. Remember if USCe beats Clemson they'll see a sizeable bump
SMU beating Cal won't help their resume then the need a close game with Miami. Miami may get in either way if they beat Syracuse.
I don't believe for a second they care about Indiana vs. Penn State especially since they didn't play.
There's a very good chance we get SEC vs SEC in the first round as well.
Last year, a lot of people were confident FSU was in with a win--we saw how that played out. SMU and Miami don't have the best resume--another loss, even in a CCG, really hurts them

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

If SMU and Miami-FL win this weekend, the rankings today strongly suggest the loser of their game gets in.

I think the loser with end up as the #11 seed to avoid having Indiana play a B1G school.

Agreed, especially with Clemson who did not make the ACC CCG at 12. Theoretically, the ACC CCG loser can't be dropped behind Clemson.

 

[doctornick]

You think SMU still makes it if they lose to Miami in ACC CCG? I think Miami is high enough in the rankings that they still are in even if they lost CCG - less sure about SMU's fate if they lose in ACC CCG... although that may be why they have Clemson at 12 - theoretically this protects both ACC CCG participants as it sets a boundary that the ACC CCG loser can't fall below as Clemson didn't make the ACC CCG.

I believe the Committee won’t penalize losers in CCGs (much). Maybe they will go down a spot or so but they don’t want to make it so a team that is “in” before the CCG gets knocked out by playing an extra game that others don’t.

Maybe if they are blown out and look inept.

 

[lazydave841]

You think SMU still makes it if they lose to Miami in ACC CCG?

I think it will greatly depend on how said ccg plays out.

 

[lazydave841]

I believe the Committee won’t penalize losers in CCGs (much). Maybe they will go down a spot or so but they don’t want to make it so a team that is “in” before the CCG gets knocked out by playing an extra game that others don’t.

Maybe if they are blown out and look inept.

Or their starting QB gets injured and the backup is below average...

 

[Obliviax]

Why Penn State Stayed Ahead of Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff Rankings

Warde Manuel, CFP selection committee chair, explained the decision to keep the Nittany Lions above the Fighting Irish.

www.si.com

 

[mgkpsu]

Have to admit I like this draw… but Michigan over Ohio St and Penn St over MD puts us in B1G championship and a dub there makes us #1 seed and I’m all in on that.

Michigan will not even keep it close. Ohio State smells blood in the water, plus Michigan is bad.

 

[LandoComando]

CBS completely bashing the committee for having us 4th
It's honestly kind of funny because the delusional that ND, Texas, Miami, SMU, etc have actually done anything isn't just from the SEC talking heads
Franklin's inability to beat good teams is definitely becoming larger than life

Committee's love of Penn State is baffling​

Most of the time when a team is ranked substantially higher than expectations, there's a reasonable explanation. Sometimes the analytics love a team or they have an especially positive win. None of that provides much explanation for Penn State, which ranked No. 4 in the most recent CFP Rankings. The Nittany Lions don't rate especially well in advanced metrics, sitting between Tennessee and Indiana in the SP+ ratings. Their only ranked win came against No. 23 Illinois. Penn State's most recent game was a 26-25 squeaker against a middling Minnesota squad. And yet, the Nittany Lions are still on track to host a College Football Playoff game at Beaver Stadium. It's confounding.

 

[royboy]

If Tyler Warren scored a TD in the last minute instead of sliding down at the 2-yard line, that would have made it a 33-25 win.

Would that have changed the perception of the win vs Minnesota?

 

[PSUeng]

If Tyler Warren scored a TD in the last minute instead of sliding down at the 2-yard line, that would have made it a 33-25 win.

Would that have changed the perception of the win vs Minnesota?

Indiana says HI!

 

[LandoComando]

If Tyler Warren scored a TD in the last minute instead of sliding down at the 2-yard line, that would have made it a 33-25 win.

Would that have changed the perception of the win vs Minnesota?

Probably not
The criticism seems to be that we don't dominate teams we should. Game control metrics aren't great. Minnesota also isn't respected so an 8 point win is still a single score.
Just beat Maryland and we're between the 6th and 8th spot with a home game and a chance to prove people wrong. Can't ask for more