Fundraising, no. Attendance and STEP?? There would still be issues. The stink STEP raised turned a lot of folks off long before 2011.
Penn State Tries to Move Forward Without Abandoning Paterno
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Fundraising, no. Attendance and STEP?? There would still be issues. The stink STEP raised turned a lot of folks off long before 2011.
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Would also say poor opponents and not having a top ten team on the field also contribute to the dropoff
When the bot went crazy attendance dropped a good 5k more than it had. That is actually a very large amount. They've resorted to big ticket giveaways to bring attendance up. I don't think they're problems with STEP would have been remotely close if they hadn't destroyed the product for a good 8 years (since marginally reduced) at such a critical juncture. I doubt significant seating reductions would be in the works too.
"Thank you for tuning into our international press conference. I will now turn the dais over to Attorney Larry Schultz and Ms. Mary Waldman, who be presenting the findings from their thorough analysis of the Freeh materials."
Gadowski got blindsided because Sandy had already stated it was wrong to celebrate the NCAA losing.
The solution to the problem cited by @ChiTownLion is a press conference equal in scope & grandeur to Freeh's where his report is laid bare and gutted.
We can thank Ken Frazier and his "We're all responsible" mantra. I'd never even met Sandusky but Frazier said I was responsible simply because I attended Penn State. That's one of the reasons why I loathe him and every other 2011 BoT member. They crippled the goodwill the vast majority of alumni felt for their alma mater by saying we all protected a pedophile.
FWIW....Franklin has behaved more congruently to the way we would hope a "Penn State Insider" would behave - than 90% of "documented Penn Staters"
IMO - Franklin "gets" PSU (particularly PSU Football program) better than just about anyone could.
Even if I didn't think he was a "quality coach", I would still have a lot of positive feelings towards him as a HFC at PSU.
Did the university finally admit donations were down after fudging the numbers for the last few years? Great, now get rid of the cabal running the BOT, so I can start donating again.
Don't also forget the Pearl Necklace Queen, aka Field Hockey Dyke, Peetz.
I think that this is the first admission that I've seen. For a long time they were fudging numbers by combining present-day donations with pre-2012 donations to make it look like everything was rosy.
Yes but it's couched in weasel words like "seesawed" which gives no insight or context to donations in the interim span. But as you say, (if one can believe a word printed by the AP, which I generally dismiss as a lie out-of-hand) it's an admission, such as it is.
Let's take a look at this corporate philanthropy of which you speak. Good chunk of it is matching gifts of employees who contribute to the alma mater. Does that tail off if PSU honors Joe? Nope.Actually, maybe the opposite occurs.
Much of it is given out of self-interest. A corporation views a university as a prime source of talent and wants to insure access. Additionally, a corporation has interest in research conducted at a university and, again, wants access. Are corporations going to deny themselves access because PSU decides to honor Joe? Don't think so.
Now as far as past and present BoT members curtailing conntributions because PSU honors Joe, there you may have a point.
For the three cents it's worth, universities in general have considerable leeway in fudging donation numbers. Do they recognize a pledge when it's made or when they actually receive cash (which for large contributions is typically over years)? Answer: they do both and with no particular consistency.
The question for the day is when did Duke recognize the $10mm from Aubrey McClendon and are they going to adjust the "numbers" now that they aren't going to get it?
Speaking of 1998 - I dumbed it down for a larger audience to understand.
In addition - it's very easy to solve this mess that Barbour & Franklin have on their hands - Old Main makes a sincere apology to Sue Paterno and her family and to the football Lettermen. It's easy, costs them nothing and it's the right thing to do. There is no "waiting for the trials" - that's a shitty excuse.
Especially since they are solely responsible for the trials being drawn out so long.
OMG Wendy - that MadLibs was priceless
Thanks for an honest to goodness laugh on a crappy day!!!
Well, that would be a start, followed by a major media blitz where some officials are on every freakin talk show, morning show, you name it.
And no matter how convoluted the truth, it has to be put into sound bite form. You can have your press conference with reams of details, but the narrative has to be condensed into simple sound bites the press can regurgitate and the public will listen to before they go back to texting. Something like, hypothetically, "Freeh doctored evidence, while ignoring other evidence, in his report. Penn State Officials and Paterno were not involved in a cover-up, and we have proof. This was a smokescreen to protect XXX."
And the evidence needs to be clear, because a whole lot of people are not going to want to write a mea culpa. The wire services, etc will print the story. But the columnists who all wrote personal opinion pieces and piled on without looking at the facts will be loathe to admit they were wrong. In fact, I bet many will try to double down.
IMO if/when C/S/S have all charges dismissed, it will be a blip beyond the local news. It would help to have at least two of them go in a media blitz afterwards, however it will most likely just be seen as self serving and won't really change anyone's minds about what they think happened. Unless they have evidence they can produce, and not just their word, about why the narrative has been wrong. Otherwise they're just viewed as in a crusade to rehabilitate their own image.
I only see two ways the narrative gets changed: the Paterno's win, and win big, against the NCAA in court, and/or university trustees/officials refute the Freeh report and fight back with facts uncovering the mess.
Bravo! You continue to top yourself with each of these posts.
Of course, we know what the Freeh investigation should have done and what the report should have looked like if the aim was truly to help children and to see where the system failed. But we also know that the Freeh investigation was nothing but a sham meant to cover the asses of a three-ring circus populated by inept captains of industry and corrupt government officials, who needed some tangible justification for knee-jerk decisions they made while running around like the proverbial chickens with their heads cut off.
Surma himself said they didn't have all the facts, so they paid Freeh 8.5 million bucks to create them.
SIAP: Wondering if anyone else caught R.A. Smith's Florida relative (whom I had a conversation with on this once before confirming they are indeed a relative) trying to hawk Wounded Lions to Russo on AP's Tweet link of the this article?
Didn't Ronald admit to you via email he did not go out of his Silvis-assigned box, and performed absolutely no research on Second Mile, CYS, DPW, etc., you know, all the relevant entities in the Sandusky case? IIRC, some copies Paul Silvis purchased and attempted to pass out at a BOT meeting headed straight to the circular file...
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Clearly the OGBOT will never hammer home any of these factual points. Clearly they are happy with the way things are. I hope September 17th is not another OGBOT diversion worthy of Penn and Teller. Honoring Coach Paterno by renaming a field or putting up a statue are insignificant to what's really important -- protecting children from future harm by revealing in court documents what the real causes of the catastrophe were -- 1. the failures by state and local child protective agencies to stop JS; 2. the deflection of blame from TSM to the PSU athletic department, PSU administrators, and a football coach; 3. the failure a local school district; and 4. the failures of state and local law enforcement as well as the OGA; 5. the failure of the OGBOT to do their fiduciary duty to the University.
We've settled for even less in the past.
Hell, we've settled for even less.......and then thrown ourselves a celebration party.
http://www.statecollege.com/news/lo...ves-settlement-in-cormanncaa-lawsuit,1462469/
"The board voted unanimously to approve the proposed settlement in State Sen. Jake Corman’s lawsuit with the NCAA, bypassing the stark division between the alumni-elected trustees and the rest of the board.
Alumni-elected Trustee Anthony Lubrano says he hopes this vote of solidarity can be a first step towards mending the chasm between the minority of alumni-elects and the majority of the remaining trustees. [Uh, yeah......we have seen how that has worked out? Fool me once? Fool me twice? Fool me three times? When it becomes 4 times - who is the fool?]
“I think it was important that this vote be unanimous from a symbolic standpoint,” Lubrano says. “We’ve been so fragmented, but we are capable of working together. [Apparently - so long as the Scoundrels are willing to give out licks of the "409" Lollipop]"
The more things change..........
For the record, I thought what Corman did by settling was, at best, cowardly, at worst, another diversion, this one not even worthy of Penn and Teller as it didn't fool anyone who was really paying attention. Corman helping to hold up the BOT reform proposals pretty much proves that he didn't have the best interests of PSU in mind when he filed the lawsuit. Isn't there any way to put political pressure on him and One-term Tommy 2 (hopefully)?
Did anyone think Shaky Jake really wanted anybody to start investigating TSM? Or to have some of the most incriminating e-mails come out from the NCAA and the BOT? How long was he a director of TSM again?
You see (saw) it.....
I see (saw) it.....
We see it......
And yet our A9 somehow keep throwing their (our) chips in with folks like Jake and Ira
Go figure that one out Batman
