Pirates better get Papelbon while they can
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Back in 1960, when baseball salaries were on level of mere mortals. ElRoy
lived a few blocks from house where I grew up in Penn Hills. it was not a big house.
lived a few blocks from house where I grew up in Penn Hills. it was not a big house.
Re: Back in 1960, when baseball salaries were on level of mere mortals. ElRoy
I grew up in Churchill Valley, was at Elroy's house the night of the 7th game. "Ducky" Schoefield least a house down the street from us for a couple of years. You are right, they lived in typical after WWII homes built in the 50"s. Great memories
I grew up in Churchill Valley, was at Elroy's house the night of the 7th game. "Ducky" Schoefield least a house down the street from us for a couple of years. You are right, they lived in typical after WWII homes built in the 50"s. Great memories
The season after Face went 18-1, he got a raise to $19,500
Hard to believe, isn't it? The "Baron of the bullpen" had to work as a carpenter in the off season to make extra bucks. Think about it. Maz probably made $25,000 around that time and Clemente didn't make $100,000 until around 1967 or 1968.
Compare that to the utility players who make millions today to hit .230. Athletes today are so grossly overpaid it's a joke. Think about that the next time you pay $9,00 for a beer, $6.00 for a footllong, and $15.00 to $20.00 to park.
Hard to believe, isn't it? The "Baron of the bullpen" had to work as a carpenter in the off season to make extra bucks. Think about it. Maz probably made $25,000 around that time and Clemente didn't make $100,000 until around 1967 or 1968.
Compare that to the utility players who make millions today to hit .230. Athletes today are so grossly overpaid it's a joke. Think about that the next time you pay $9,00 for a beer, $6.00 for a footllong, and $15.00 to $20.00 to park.
Just got home from the game. Was thinking perhaps they should at some point consider flipping Melancon and Watson. Would be interested in hearing Cincy's take. Melancon is certainly not a prototypical closer. Reminds me of Mike Williams. Rarely is an inning 1,2,3, or so it seems.
Re: The season after Face went 18-1, he got a raise to $19,500
I was at Forbes Field when this photo was taken....the 59 All Star Game. I wish I could say I was in it, but our seats were on the first base side, just out of view. My Dad starting getting season tickets in 58 and we held them until the early 80's.
This post was edited on 4/13 8:11 PM by fairgambit
The 50's and early 60's were a magical time to be a baseball fan....at the end of what today they call Baseball's Golden Age. I loved the game then, and not just because I was a kid. In those days, baseball was more a game than a business. Ah, I'd better stop before I get all misty eyed...
I was at Forbes Field when this photo was taken....the 59 All Star Game. I wish I could say I was in it, but our seats were on the first base side, just out of view. My Dad starting getting season tickets in 58 and we held them until the early 80's.
This post was edited on 4/13 8:11 PM by fairgambit
In 71 innings last year Melancon only allowed 51 hits and 11 walks. I am not sure where the perception arises that he is always walking a tightrope.He also averaged a strikeout per inning, so although he does not have overpowering velocity, he is a strikeout pitcher. I know he gave up a home run today, but that is a rare occurrence for him.He has been one of the best relievers in baseball the last three years. He had a bad day against some great hitters. But, when things got tight he really buckled down and made some great pitches.
Starg, can't that I know how that compares with the average for closers. But yeah, he's been a very good reliever. Could be wrong, but he seems better suited as an 8th inning guy. Bullpens are the most unpredictable facet of the game from year to year, which makes Neal's success in putting them together pretty impressive.
I was there as well , seats were down the right field line. I remember
spotting Leo durocher getting out of a cab , sporting a burgundy blazer,
spotting Leo durocher getting out of a cab , sporting a burgundy blazer,
Re: I was there as well , seats were down the right field line. I remember
I know I saved my ticket and program from that game, but I can't find it. They aren't worth a ton of money, but there is the sentimental value.
I would not put him in the same class as Kimbrell or Chapman because those guy's are virtually untouchable, but Melancon is better than most. MLB.com ranked the Top 40 relievers in Baseball and Melancon was ranked 10th. I like the fact that he does not walk people. You are going to have to string hits together to beat him. I would have been more upset with Melancon if he had walked guy's with the four run lead.Give Detroit credit. Three really good hitters strung together some hits to get them back in the game, but when Detroit got to within one run Melancon really buckled down. Martinez was the toughest guy in baseball to strike out last year and Melancon fanned him to end the game.
This post was edited on 4/14 7:37 AM by Stargellfan
This post was edited on 4/14 7:37 AM by Stargellfan
Many baseball people consider VMart one of the best hitters in the game and he got him swinging at a pitch he couldn't hit with a bed slat to end the game........but you recommend getting a guy that is a total psycho, cancer. Brilliant!!!!!!! I think I would rather have Clint make the decisions. Arquimedes Caminero is bringing it at 100 in long relief.
Re: The season after Face went 18-1, he got a raise to $19,500
I'm from Philly, and in 1964, Johnny Callison was the runner up in the MVP voting, and he would have won if not for the infamous Phillies collapse. He would work other jobs in the offseason, and became a bartender. I had the pleasure of being served by Mr. Callison a couple of times, the last at Tomatoes, outside of Doylestown. I was actually surprised at how small he was, considering that he could hit with some power.
I'm from Philly, and in 1964, Johnny Callison was the runner up in the MVP voting, and he would have won if not for the infamous Phillies collapse. He would work other jobs in the offseason, and became a bartender. I had the pleasure of being served by Mr. Callison a couple of times, the last at Tomatoes, outside of Doylestown. I was actually surprised at how small he was, considering that he could hit with some power.
Re: You were more connected than was I, I'm Penn Hills High class of 61
Sorry for my delayed response, I graduated from Penn Hills in '69 . I haven't lived in Western Pa since then but still keep in touch. My parents and brother are still in t he Pittsbugh area.
Sorry for my delayed response, I graduated from Penn Hills in '69 . I haven't lived in Western Pa since then but still keep in touch. My parents and brother are still in t he Pittsbugh area.
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