Pitt rivalry has big support in both camps
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Currently, Pitt is scheduled to play the Fighting Irish in 2015, ’18, ’20, ’23 and ’25. This dictates the schools meet often enough to stoke the passions but allows the Panthers some room to maneuver in scheduling Penn State, West Virginia, and other non-conference opponents that can drum up interest, recent examples being Nebraska, Iowa and Utah.
Why did he drag us into it? We're 3-0 vs Pitt, would much rather see a home and home VS PSU....
Why did he drag us into it? We're 3-0 vs Pitt, would much rather see a home and home VS PSU....
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we're playing a mediocre ACC team as our premier game just when we get to full strength and can make some noise in the College Football Playoff. We will get dinged for strength of schedule for 4 years by playing a perennial 6-6 team. And reading Adam Bittner rots your brain.
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Let them get back into their rivalry with CMU. Cross town (oakland) rival.....
There is a BIG camp of PSU grads that say "ignore the low life"
No support in the Jersey Jim Delany camp. You will take Rutgers as a rival and I will schedule the games that way. Rivalry week starts next year Nits, so tell coach penis head to get used to it. Furthermore, CJF will bow down to Ms. Barbour who I have coerced into accepting a trophy for the Game. It has a lump of cow crap with a cable box on top.
Speaking as one who lives in the Pittsburgh area, I have no desire to play Pitt. I would prefer a much bigger national name.. Florida State, UCLA, Oregon, Clemson, Texas.
Penn State and Pitt should play every year like Alabama and Auburn do. If your a fan of College football and care anything about tradition you would have to support the two top schools in Pennsylvania playing every year. I realize that there is a dislike for Pitt but geeze isn't that the essence of a rivalry? Pitt is not the bottom feeder many have made them out to be and Penn State has not won a National Title in 29 years so this superiority thing is over blown. Penn State is a better program than Pitt but the Lions are not light years ahead at this time. I think it's nuts that in a state with the football tradition as prestigious as Pennsylvania the two top football teams don't play every year.
Both programs have gone their separate ways. Pitt decided Penn State was unimportant when they joined The Big East. Penn State then did what it felt was in its self interest by joining the Big Ten.
A Penn State/Pitt game played in September just has no rivalry feel to it at all. It is just the way it is today. Texas no longer plays A&M. Nebraska no longer plays Oklahoma. Michigan and Notre Dame have separated. Obla di Obla da, life goes on brah, La La how that life goes on.
In the last 31 games, Penn State is 23-7-1 vs Pitt. Some rivalry.
Alabama and Auburn are in the same conference. Like Mich and Mich St. Not like PSU and Pitt. Pretty simple.
Absolutely disagree. I could give you 20 reasons, all of which seem obvious to me, but I am running on 3 hours sleep in the past 36 hours and so will just voice my dissent.
$$$ where is it?
Penn State beats Pitt. Who cares.
Pitt beats Penn State. All of a sudden ASWP is "back" and their five fans are giddy.
No one outside of some parts of PA give a flip about Pitt. Down here in NC they can't sell any tickets for Pitt games. No one cares.
Penn State beats Pitt. Who cares.
Pitt beats Penn State. All of a sudden ASWP is "back" and their five fans are giddy.
No one outside of some parts of PA give a flip about Pitt. Down here in NC they can't sell any tickets for Pitt games. No one cares.
I disagree. Look at the first four or five games on the 2015 schedule and tell me Pitt would not be an upgrade on just about all of them. You argument does not hold up. It's not even close.
Sure, so would Clemson, or Florida State, or Oregon, or any number of other schools, and those schools would be an upgrade over Pitt as well. Actually, as I said in a Barron thread, I am past the point of caring. They can do what they want...and they will.
Why would you be afraid of losing? I wish Pitt was relevant again just like I wish Penn State was relevant again. I guess State is more relevant on the relevance scale but both teams being good and playing each other would be good for college football fans. The bitterness from 30 years ago is what drives this anti series sentiment.
It's not what drives me, but as I said a moment ago, I just don't care anymore. The people that run this place will do what they want.
I think it drives many folks. It's fine. I just like good football especially when teams hate each other.
Pitt would be a nice non conference match up that would not hurt a top four possible finish. Penn State will have to win the Big Ten to finish in the playoff mix anyway.
That is the crux of your argument? Elaboration is not a strength in some quarters.
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So this years schedule also sucks due to the same scheduling policies that gave us Syracuse, Temple and Rutgers (before they joined the B1G) as our "premium" OOC games. How is that any way justification to continue to play a perennial 6-6 team from the worst conference in the Power 5?
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33 years old. Wife is 31. Season ticket holders for 8 years now. Wife would stare at you like you had three heads if you asked her what a Pitt Panther or a Rutger is. That's why they are not rivalries. She loves however, when we play UM, OSU, ND, Alabama. Could care less about Pitt or Rutgers. No one in my age bracket cares about those schools. Just another name on the schedule. Might as well schedule Buffalo twice.
I have and what I've heard wouldn't make it past the board filters. But best printable summary is "when hell freezes over", a sentiment expressed by both sides.
Oh, yeah, and I was looking for that "big support" you cited. That douche Bittner ad you. In the immortal words of Ed Sullivan, "big...reeeeally big!"
A lot of good stuff on this thread, so not much for me to add....but, just for the record, if the conference sticks to a 9 game schedule, I would hate to think that 1/3 of our non conf games would always involve Pitt. Knowing full well that that the other 2 non conf games will be cupcakes who are only in it for the paycheck.
We can do better than being engaged to the University of Western Pennsylvania.
We can do better than being engaged to the University of Western Pennsylvania.
No it doesn't. It says that PSU, a tradition-laden program with aspirations of winning championships, has nothing to gain by playing pitt. pitt-PSU is good for pitt. It does nothing for PSU.
Pitt is a tradition-laden program with nine national championships. (I kid, I kid) I grew up hating pitt. Shit on Pitt was probably the fist curse I was allowed to say around the house with out my mother yelling at me. There are many things we have to gain by playing pitt:
not looking scared
the satisfaction of giving a beat down
a state pride game
it is a way better game then any non conference game on this years schedule
As much as it pains me to say it (its a nice city and an easy travel location for may people
So you think Buffalo is as appealing as Pitt? I wonder if the Pitt game would have trouble drawing a sellout like almost all those other games on the schedule. I think not. Your right when you don't play how can it be a rivalry and these two teams never should have stopped playing.
Agree, PSU needs to schedule OOC games with relevant teams from areas (Georgia, FL) that help recruiting.
Penn State is doing what is in Penn State's best interest. To give home and home game every year with Pitt is to give up one home game every other year for PSU and the revenue gain PSU get from scheduling a one-and-done school who is normally as competitive as Pitt.
Penn state NEEDS to continue to do what is in PSU best interests. To schedule Pitt every year, means loss of revenue that supports our 31 sports.
One other thing that is beginning to bother me. Every time this subject comes up, some Pittsburgh sports writer blames the loss of the Pitt/PSU game on PSU and tries to make it sound as though it's vindictive. The loss of the game is purely financial from PSU's point of view. The sports writer will point to positive comments from Franklin/Barbour/any other PSU rep. and claim a shift in PSU view. They conveniently leave out the fact that Paterno/Spainer/etc. made similar comments in the past. Those positive comments are what will always be stated when the subject is bridged. You just don't tell a breathless audience "get over it, it isn't happening".
Penn state NEEDS to continue to do what is in PSU best interests. To schedule Pitt every year, means loss of revenue that supports our 31 sports.
One other thing that is beginning to bother me. Every time this subject comes up, some Pittsburgh sports writer blames the loss of the Pitt/PSU game on PSU and tries to make it sound as though it's vindictive. The loss of the game is purely financial from PSU's point of view. The sports writer will point to positive comments from Franklin/Barbour/any other PSU rep. and claim a shift in PSU view. They conveniently leave out the fact that Paterno/Spainer/etc. made similar comments in the past. Those positive comments are what will always be stated when the subject is bridged. You just don't tell a breathless audience "get over it, it isn't happening".
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