Potential First - Wrestling Historians Please Chime In

[psuflyguy]

This is one of those off season discussions because I don't feel like talking about JRob or freestyle right now. So it's entirely possible that IMar and Nolf will end their careers having lost to nobody but each other. Has that ever happened before that anybody knows about? Two wrestlers only ever having lost to each other, but nobody else. (Man, the season needs to start soon...)

 

[grappler6]

Cael Sanderson only lost to himself.

 

[jschrantz]

This is one of those off season discussions because I don't feel like talking about JRob or freestyle right now. So it's entirely possible that IMar and Nolf will end their careers having lost to nobody but each other. Has that ever happened before that anybody knows about? Two wrestlers only ever having lost to each other, but nobody else. (Man, the season needs to start soon...)

That's predicting 5 total seasons of undefeated wrestling between both of them, Um...Give me the field on that bet

 

[csiebott]

That's predicting 5 total seasons of undefeated wrestling between both of them, Um...Give me the field on that bet

wouldn't it be six?

 

[tikk10]

wouldn't it be six?

Three remaining for Nolf, two for IMar.

Great question though. I don't think it's been done. Unfortunately historical statistics for NCAA wrestling are scattered and lacking, but the guys with low single digit losses over their careers are few and known. And if there was such a rivalry you'd think it'd be legend.

It may have technically happened between two wrestlers who had, say, 10 career D1 matches between them, exchanging losses only to each other before careers cut short by injury.

Pendleton Askren comes to mind b/c Pendleton had Askren's number and Askren only lost to one other wrestler. But Pendleton had a bunch of losses.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

. Has that ever happened before that anybody knows about? Two wrestlers only ever having lost to each other, but nobody else.

Are you limiting this to college? Or is high school also in consideration? Just trying to understand the parameters.

 

[Pennstate1985]

That's predicting 5 total seasons of undefeated wrestling between both of them, Um...Give me the field on that bet

I know what you're saying, but I wouldn't take the bet on that. Besides each other, they really don't get tested too much. I think IMAR desperately needed to go to 165 this year as the cut was getting to be too much, but now that he's at 165, I think we see a monster again. Jason should be the class at 157.

Flukes happen though.

 

[psuflyguy]

Are you limiting this to college? Or is high school also in consideration? Just trying to understand the parameters.

I was thinking D1 college wrestling, Tom, but it was just a conversation starter in lieu of other wrestling news.
And yes guys, I know that's a long ways off till these two guys are done.

 

[manatree]

Thos is one of those trivial situational records that is ripe to be held by two unknown wrestlers with very few varsity matches in their NCAA career. Wrestler A with a record of 3-1 and wrestler B with a record of 1-1.

 

[matter7172]

Slightly off-topic, but in 2003, in the Region 3 New Jersey tournament at 103 pounds, the first three finishers were Mike Grey (Delbarton), Darrion Caldwell (Rahway) and Jimmy Conroy (South Plainfield). All 3 were freshmen. As far as I know, Grey lost to no one in-state during his career, Caldwell lost only to Grey and Conroy lost only to Grey or Caldwell. Not quite the proposed oddity, but still a pretty incredible one.

 

[21Guns]

Cael Sanderson only lost to himself.

...and even then, it was controversial...haha.

 

[androcles]

...didn't Cael lose a bout when he was RS?...

 

[KidNittany]

...didn't Cael lose a bout when he was RS?...

Paul Jenn

edit: thought was Kjelgaard but my memory must be going.

 

[LemonPie]

Who did iMar lose to as a RS? I know Nolf was James Green

 

[El-Jefe]

Who did iMar lose to as a RS? I know Nolf was James Green

DSJ and Gresheimer, both at Midlands 157.

 

[RoarLions1]

Paul Jenn

RIP, another wrestler gone too young.

 

[Ja1339]

That's predicting 5 total seasons of undefeated wrestling between both of them, Um...Give me the field on that bet

Or another loss in a head to head between them.
Loss for IMAR that is