On the rare occasion I do visit their site, I would have to agree with you. I should have clarified that the NJ State U fans at nationals have been tolerable. Whereas, their football fans, especially in Piscataway, in a word, suck!
Projected BIG tournament scores
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How does that EDIT button work.....Oh what's the point..Unexpectedly made me laugh.................I've been Bazingad!
Hello. Long time reader, first time writer. I was curious about Big 10s and so I came up with a spreadsheet looking at how everybody has done head-to-head in conference (I don't think it looks possible to post that here however). Based off of that I have projected the following seeds to date (even though I think the conference only does 8 unless there are more qualifiers than that). These will obviously somewhat change with the majority of the conference duals still to be wrestling but I found it interesting nonetheless. Let me know if you think I am missing/overlooking anything.
125
1 Sebastian Rivera (Northwestern)
2 Spencer Lee Iowa
3 Rayvon Foley Michigan State
4 Sean Russell Minnesota
5 Drew Mattin Michigan
6 Zeke Moisey Nebraska
7 Connor Brown Wisconsin
8 Travis Piotrowski Illinois
9 Devin Schroder Purdue
10 Liam Cronin Indiana
11 Malik Heinselman Ohio State
12 Brandon Cray Maryland
13 Shane Metzler Rutgers
14 Devin Schnupp Penn State
133
1 Steven Micic Michigan
2 Luke Pletcher Ohio State
3 Austin DeSanto Iowa
4 Nick Suriano Rutgers
5 Roman Bravo-Young Penn State
6 Ethan Lizak Minnesota
7 Ben Thornton Purdue
8 Dylan Duncan Illinois
9 Colin Valdiviez Northwestern
10 Garrett Pepple Indiana
11 Jevon Parrish Nebraska
12 Anthony Tutolo Michigan State
13 Jens Lantz Wisconsin
14 Orion Anderson Maryland
141
1 Joey McKenna Ohio State
2 Mike Carr Illinois
3 Mitch McKee Minnesota
4 Tristan Moran Wisconsin
5 Nick Lee Penn State
6 Max Murin Iowa
7 Chad Red Nebraska
8 Kanen Storr Michigan
9 Nate Limmex Purdue
10 Cole Weaver or Paul Konrath Indiana
11 Yahya Thomas Northwestern
12 Michael Doetsch Maryland
13 Austin Eicher Michigan State
14 Peter Lipari Rutgers
149
1 Anthony Ashnault Rutgers
2 Micah Jordan Ohio State
3 Patrick Lugo Iowa
4 Cole Martin Wisconsin
5 Thomas Thorn Minnesota
6 Malik Amine Michigan
7 Brady Berge Penn State
8 Shane Oyster Northwestern
9 Fernie Silva Indiana
10 Alfred Bannister Maryland
11 Christan Kanzler Illinois
12 Jaden Enriquez Michigan State
13 Jordan Shearer Nebraska
14 Parker Filius Purdue
157
1 Jason Nolf Penn State
2 Alec Pantaleo Michigan
3 Tyler Berger Nebraska
4 Ryan Deakin Northwestern
5 Kaleb Young Iowa
6 Steve Bleise Minnesota
7 Eric Barone Illinois
8 Ke-Shawn Hayes Ohio State
9 Jake Danishek Indiana
10 Griffin Parriott Purdue
11 Jacob Tucker Michigan State
12 John Van Brill Rutgers
13 Zander Wick Wisconsin
14 Adam Whitesell Maryland
165
1 Vincenzo Joseph Penn State
2 Alex Marinelli Iowa
3 Evan Wick Wisconsin
4 Isaiah White Nebraska
5 Logan Massa Michigan
6 Carlson Brolsma Minnesota
7 Bryce Martin Indiana
8 Joey Gunther Illinois
9 Philip Spadafora Maryland
10 Cole Wysocki Purdue
11 Kaleb Romero Ohio State
12 Tyler Moreland Northwestern
13 Stephen Glasgow Rutgers
14 Gary Ritchie Michigan State
174
1 Mark Hall Penn State
2 Myles Amine Michigan
3 Te'Shaun Campbell Ohio State
4 Dylan Lydy Purdue
5 Ryan Christiansen Wisconsin
6 Michael Labriola Nebraska
7 Devin Skatzka Minnesota
8 Joseph Grello Rutgers
9 Josh Ugalde Maryland
10 Drew Hughes Michigan State
11 Johnny Sebastian Northwestern
12 Mitch Bowman Iowa
13 James Carver Illinois
14 Jacob Covaciu Indiana
184
1 Myles Martin Ohio State
2 Shakur Rasheed Penn State
3 Emery Parker Illinois
4 Taylor Venz Nebraska
5 Cash Wilke Iowa
6 Cameron Caffey Michigan State
7 Mason Reinheardt Wisconsin
8 Nick Gravina Rutgers
9 Max Lyon Purdue
10 Brandon Krone Minnesota
11 Norman Conley Indiana
12 JT Correll Michigan
13 Kyle Jasenski Maryland
14 Brendan Devine Northwestern
197
1 Bo Nickal Penn State
2 Kollin Moore Ohio State
3 Jacob Warner Iowa
4 Christian Brunner Purdue
5 Eric Schultz Nebraska
6 Jackson Striggow Michigan
7 Michael Correnti Rutgers
8 Rylee Streifel Minnesota
9 Matt Wroblewski Illinois
10 Brad Wilton Michigan State
11 Zack Chakonis Northwestern
12 Beau Breske Wisconsin
13 Jake Kleimola Indiana
14 Niko Cappello Maryland
285
1 Gable Steveson Minnesota
2 Anthony Cassar Penn State
3 Youssif Hermida Maryland
4 Sam Stoll Iowa
5 David Jensen Nebraska
6 Fletcher Miller Indiana
7 Chase Singletary Ohio State
8 Conan Jennings Northwestern
9 Mason Parris Michigan
10 Trent Hillger Wisconsin
11 Chase Beard Michigan State
12 Christian Colucci Rutgers
13 Jacob Aven Purdue
14 Deuce Rachal Illinois
125
1 Sebastian Rivera (Northwestern)
2 Spencer Lee Iowa
3 Rayvon Foley Michigan State
4 Sean Russell Minnesota
5 Drew Mattin Michigan
6 Zeke Moisey Nebraska
7 Connor Brown Wisconsin
8 Travis Piotrowski Illinois
9 Devin Schroder Purdue
10 Liam Cronin Indiana
11 Malik Heinselman Ohio State
12 Brandon Cray Maryland
13 Shane Metzler Rutgers
14 Devin Schnupp Penn State
133
1 Steven Micic Michigan
2 Luke Pletcher Ohio State
3 Austin DeSanto Iowa
4 Nick Suriano Rutgers
5 Roman Bravo-Young Penn State
6 Ethan Lizak Minnesota
7 Ben Thornton Purdue
8 Dylan Duncan Illinois
9 Colin Valdiviez Northwestern
10 Garrett Pepple Indiana
11 Jevon Parrish Nebraska
12 Anthony Tutolo Michigan State
13 Jens Lantz Wisconsin
14 Orion Anderson Maryland
141
1 Joey McKenna Ohio State
2 Mike Carr Illinois
3 Mitch McKee Minnesota
4 Tristan Moran Wisconsin
5 Nick Lee Penn State
6 Max Murin Iowa
7 Chad Red Nebraska
8 Kanen Storr Michigan
9 Nate Limmex Purdue
10 Cole Weaver or Paul Konrath Indiana
11 Yahya Thomas Northwestern
12 Michael Doetsch Maryland
13 Austin Eicher Michigan State
14 Peter Lipari Rutgers
149
1 Anthony Ashnault Rutgers
2 Micah Jordan Ohio State
3 Patrick Lugo Iowa
4 Cole Martin Wisconsin
5 Thomas Thorn Minnesota
6 Malik Amine Michigan
7 Brady Berge Penn State
8 Shane Oyster Northwestern
9 Fernie Silva Indiana
10 Alfred Bannister Maryland
11 Christan Kanzler Illinois
12 Jaden Enriquez Michigan State
13 Jordan Shearer Nebraska
14 Parker Filius Purdue
157
1 Jason Nolf Penn State
2 Alec Pantaleo Michigan
3 Tyler Berger Nebraska
4 Ryan Deakin Northwestern
5 Kaleb Young Iowa
6 Steve Bleise Minnesota
7 Eric Barone Illinois
8 Ke-Shawn Hayes Ohio State
9 Jake Danishek Indiana
10 Griffin Parriott Purdue
11 Jacob Tucker Michigan State
12 John Van Brill Rutgers
13 Zander Wick Wisconsin
14 Adam Whitesell Maryland
165
1 Vincenzo Joseph Penn State
2 Alex Marinelli Iowa
3 Evan Wick Wisconsin
4 Isaiah White Nebraska
5 Logan Massa Michigan
6 Carlson Brolsma Minnesota
7 Bryce Martin Indiana
8 Joey Gunther Illinois
9 Philip Spadafora Maryland
10 Cole Wysocki Purdue
11 Kaleb Romero Ohio State
12 Tyler Moreland Northwestern
13 Stephen Glasgow Rutgers
14 Gary Ritchie Michigan State
174
1 Mark Hall Penn State
2 Myles Amine Michigan
3 Te'Shaun Campbell Ohio State
4 Dylan Lydy Purdue
5 Ryan Christiansen Wisconsin
6 Michael Labriola Nebraska
7 Devin Skatzka Minnesota
8 Joseph Grello Rutgers
9 Josh Ugalde Maryland
10 Drew Hughes Michigan State
11 Johnny Sebastian Northwestern
12 Mitch Bowman Iowa
13 James Carver Illinois
14 Jacob Covaciu Indiana
184
1 Myles Martin Ohio State
2 Shakur Rasheed Penn State
3 Emery Parker Illinois
4 Taylor Venz Nebraska
5 Cash Wilke Iowa
6 Cameron Caffey Michigan State
7 Mason Reinheardt Wisconsin
8 Nick Gravina Rutgers
9 Max Lyon Purdue
10 Brandon Krone Minnesota
11 Norman Conley Indiana
12 JT Correll Michigan
13 Kyle Jasenski Maryland
14 Brendan Devine Northwestern
197
1 Bo Nickal Penn State
2 Kollin Moore Ohio State
3 Jacob Warner Iowa
4 Christian Brunner Purdue
5 Eric Schultz Nebraska
6 Jackson Striggow Michigan
7 Michael Correnti Rutgers
8 Rylee Streifel Minnesota
9 Matt Wroblewski Illinois
10 Brad Wilton Michigan State
11 Zack Chakonis Northwestern
12 Beau Breske Wisconsin
13 Jake Kleimola Indiana
14 Niko Cappello Maryland
285
1 Gable Steveson Minnesota
2 Anthony Cassar Penn State
3 Youssif Hermida Maryland
4 Sam Stoll Iowa
5 David Jensen Nebraska
6 Fletcher Miller Indiana
7 Chase Singletary Ohio State
8 Conan Jennings Northwestern
9 Mason Parris Michigan
10 Trent Hillger Wisconsin
11 Chase Beard Michigan State
12 Christian Colucci Rutgers
13 Jacob Aven Purdue
14 Deuce Rachal Illinois
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Here is what the scores would be based solely on advancement based off of those seeds
1st place - 19 points
2nd - 15 points
3rd - 12.5 points
4th - 11.5 points
5th - 9 points
6th - 8 points
7th - 5.5 points
8th - 4.5 points
9th-12th - 0.5 points
13th-14th - 0 points
Penn State 139
Ohio State 118
Iowa 91
Michigan 90.5
Minnesota 77
Nebraska 68.5
Wisconsin 60
Northwestern 56
Rutgers 52.5
Illinois 32
Purdue 26
Michigan State 23
Maryland 23
Indiana 13.5
1st place - 19 points
2nd - 15 points
3rd - 12.5 points
4th - 11.5 points
5th - 9 points
6th - 8 points
7th - 5.5 points
8th - 4.5 points
9th-12th - 0.5 points
13th-14th - 0 points
Penn State 139
Ohio State 118
Iowa 91
Michigan 90.5
Minnesota 77
Nebraska 68.5
Wisconsin 60
Northwestern 56
Rutgers 52.5
Illinois 32
Purdue 26
Michigan State 23
Maryland 23
Indiana 13.5
Yeah. HWT was tough to kind of piece together. It will probably not get easier as more results come in. Obviously the Sam Stoll thing with him being the most credentialed wrestler in that field (at least on the college level) and only having 1 match against another Big 10 starter that I could see.
Also, I have not seen him wrestle yet but Mason Parris seems to be highly thought of as a freshman but he has taken losses to Singletary and Jennings but beaten Hillger (who beat Jennings). Decent quarterfinal match for sure for the top seeds.
Also, I have not seen him wrestle yet but Mason Parris seems to be highly thought of as a freshman but he has taken losses to Singletary and Jennings but beaten Hillger (who beat Jennings). Decent quarterfinal match for sure for the top seeds.
A few topics in this one thread. Lol
1) Big Ten scoring. It will be an exciting tourney since it is generally harder to win this than NCAA when there are less ranked competitors to take OSU or Iowa down.
2) Rutgers wrestling. Some hate. Most don’t and they have gotten better since Goodale arrived. They spend a lot of time trumpeting their greatness particularly in NJ but fail to recognize they likely aren’t even the best team in their state, even if AA bests Kolodzik for a title. They have drawn our ire for their hands to the face antics last year which thankfully helped usher in a new rule.....one that has largely eliminated a tactic that was clearly not wrestling. They are like “The Mouse That Roared”....a little country that sailed up the Hudson River and attacked the US, and no one noticed. Funny book and funny movie.
3) Suriano himself. Meh. The self trumpeting of the need to be the man I could do without. Just go do it instead. I also have no problem with wanting to be the big fish in a small pond. Again...just go do it. Getting a transfer without having to sit a year sends my ire at the NCAA as there was zero reason to allow it.
4) Rutgers football. The worst place I ever attended a game was WVU as the Lion. In fact it was not only football but every sport. Basketball, gymnastics, wrestling..... and the stories are both frightening and appalling. At least their teams were and are good and it was definitely a rivalry.
Rutgers football games are now just as foul and nasty and if I never step foot again on ir near that campus I’ll die a happy man. Imagine your team is so bad you can’t even score for 4 games and the only reason you have for going to a game is to be angry at the other team, their fans, and spew unmitigated vitriol.
Sheesh. Even in our dark years, and including the lowest of lows 6-4 loss to Iowa my goal was to tailgate, have fun, meet other fans and watch a game. I don’t remember ever rolling out of bed thinking “I gotta go tell every one I see to F$)?! Off today”.
1) Big Ten scoring. It will be an exciting tourney since it is generally harder to win this than NCAA when there are less ranked competitors to take OSU or Iowa down.
2) Rutgers wrestling. Some hate. Most don’t and they have gotten better since Goodale arrived. They spend a lot of time trumpeting their greatness particularly in NJ but fail to recognize they likely aren’t even the best team in their state, even if AA bests Kolodzik for a title. They have drawn our ire for their hands to the face antics last year which thankfully helped usher in a new rule.....one that has largely eliminated a tactic that was clearly not wrestling. They are like “The Mouse That Roared”....a little country that sailed up the Hudson River and attacked the US, and no one noticed. Funny book and funny movie.
3) Suriano himself. Meh. The self trumpeting of the need to be the man I could do without. Just go do it instead. I also have no problem with wanting to be the big fish in a small pond. Again...just go do it. Getting a transfer without having to sit a year sends my ire at the NCAA as there was zero reason to allow it.
4) Rutgers football. The worst place I ever attended a game was WVU as the Lion. In fact it was not only football but every sport. Basketball, gymnastics, wrestling..... and the stories are both frightening and appalling. At least their teams were and are good and it was definitely a rivalry.
Rutgers football games are now just as foul and nasty and if I never step foot again on ir near that campus I’ll die a happy man. Imagine your team is so bad you can’t even score for 4 games and the only reason you have for going to a game is to be angry at the other team, their fans, and spew unmitigated vitriol.
Sheesh. Even in our dark years, and including the lowest of lows 6-4 loss to Iowa my goal was to tailgate, have fun, meet other fans and watch a game. I don’t remember ever rolling out of bed thinking “I gotta go tell every one I see to F$)?! Off today”.
Thanks for putting all of these together!
Parris will be very, very good in time. This year he's a high risk, high reward guy. Dangerous to himself and others. (Not nearly as dangerous to himself as Rachal, but who is?)
If you can find the video, I'd encourage you to watch the Parris-Hillger match. Exciting match. Parris won 9-6 but Hillger took him to his back for a sure 6 and possible fall, that was stopped for potentially dangerous. I won't say that was a blown call, but this was the ref:
St. Peter will overlook everything else (yes, everything!) (yes, even that) (and that) and let you skip the line to heaven for being the Lion there.
Being a deer during hunting season in WV is probably better than being the Lion in Morgantown.
Hasn’t been talked about much but Antknee whipped Hilger’s butt. Pretty impressive showing.Thanks for putting all of these together!
Parris will be very, very good in time. This year he's a high risk, high reward guy. Dangerous to himself and others. (Not nearly as dangerous to himself as Rachal, but who is?)
If you can find the video, I'd encourage you to watch the Parris-Hillger match. Exciting match. Parris won 9-6 but Hillger took him to his back for a sure 6 and possible fall, that was stopped for potentially dangerous. I won't say that was a blown call, but this was the ref:
IMO Hillger is the caliber of wrestler he'll need to beat in the NCAA quarters.
Really good sign.
I graduated spring of 86 so I have seen you MANY times!!
Ok, I was on the Cheerleading team Spring 81 - Spring 83.
What are the chances Big Ten has every Champion at NCAA's? Contenders (IMO) and those in Flo Rankings that wrestle in Big 10.
125 - Spencer or Rivera... (#1, 2, 7, 8)
133 - Miccic... (Suriano, Desanto...#1, 4, 5, 6, 7)
141 - McKenna... (#2, 4, 5, 7, 8)
149 - Ashanualt .... (#2, 3, 9, 10)
157 - Nolf, next question... (#1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10)
165 - Cenzo... (Marinelli, Wick..#1, 2, 3, 6, 7)
174 - Hall... (#1, 3, 9, 10)
184 - Martin... (Parker... #1, 2, 4, 7)
197 - Bo... (Moore... #1, 2, 5, 10)
HWT- Gable... (Cassar...#1, 3, 5, 7, 9)
125 - Spencer or Rivera... (#1, 2, 7, 8)
133 - Miccic... (Suriano, Desanto...#1, 4, 5, 6, 7)
141 - McKenna... (#2, 4, 5, 7, 8)
149 - Ashanualt .... (#2, 3, 9, 10)
157 - Nolf, next question... (#1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10)
165 - Cenzo... (Marinelli, Wick..#1, 2, 3, 6, 7)
174 - Hall... (#1, 3, 9, 10)
184 - Martin... (Parker... #1, 2, 4, 7)
197 - Bo... (Moore... #1, 2, 5, 10)
HWT- Gable... (Cassar...#1, 3, 5, 7, 9)
I guess the chances are good, but 125 is not only deep, but very unpredictable.
141.....if Yanni is healthy
174....shhhhh.
184 is still up in the air imo
149 Kolodzik isn’t just steady but tough in a wide open weight class but I think he comes thru.
141.....if Yanni is healthy
174....shhhhh.
184 is still up in the air imo
149 Kolodzik isn’t just steady but tough in a wide open weight class but I think he comes thru.
I think 125, 133, 157, 165, 184, & 197 are all heavy favorites for the BIG so I'm taking the over.
McKenna is looking like a legitimate threat to a healthy Yanni, but yeah.
149 I don't see Ashnault beating Kolodzik
174 has epic final written all over it
184 who outside the Big10 conference do you think is a legitimate threat to win this? I am curious to see how Shak does, but even if he has something for Martin that keeps it in Big10. I am uncertain who outside the Big10 has anything to offer Martin. Actually, if Shak doesn't have enough to handle Martin there isn't anybody else going to stress him.
I was there and can tell you it rivaled some of the worst opponent fan behavior I've experienced.
