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Because graduates can't post a link or properly compose a thread title?
one item that hurt PSU was we did not have a good avg graduate salary
Well he didn’t graduate so it probably wouldn’t count.Wait until Barkley signs his contract
That right there should tell you these rankings are utter garbage! Surprised they don't have Kutztown ahead of PSU too. What a joke ... #fakenewsIUP ranked ahead of us.
Disconcerting to say the least, but very understandable.several schools in PA ahead of PSU. it was a bit shocking - tOSU and MSU were above PSU. hard to see a school like Pitt above us. one item that hurt PSU was we did not have a good avg graduate salary. that really surprised me.
Flag. No link to the actual list.several schools in PA ahead of PSU. it was a bit shocking - tOSU and MSU were above PSU. hard to see a school like Pitt above us. one item that hurt PSU was we did not have a good avg graduate salary. that really surprised me.
Joe Pa rules this was suppose to be a joke. I havent seen the list. Sorry for stirring your Ire.That right there should tell you these rankings are utter garbage! Surprised they don't have Kutztown ahead of PSU too. What a joke ... #fakenews
Looks like the Category "Resources" (finance per student (IPEDS, BEA), faculty per student (IPEDS), research papers per faculty (Elsevier)) is where Penn State got hammered. In that category, they were judged to be equivalent to Hawaii-Hilo, Luther College, and Rutgers-Camden.
Oh for gods sake chill out. It’s a survey. Psu is very solid. And has a lot of people working in Ny and on Wall Street. And, this survey seems to take into account all schools rather than stratifying in ways you are perhaps accustomed to. On an all in list that may be about right.# WallStreetCulture
And yet we’re ranked top 50 in several other rankings, including one I read a couple of years ago that had us top 100 in the world. Plus, we’re widely considered a public ivy, so whatever.
Perhaps, but funny how not many here were calling it garbage when we were ranked much higher. For example, when the WSJ had such flattering things to say about Penn State several years ago, we never heard the end of it, both on this board and emanating from the University itself.Some people pay way too much attention to this garbage.
Perhaps, but funny how not many here were calling it garbage when we were ranked much higher. For example, when the WSJ had such flattering things to say about Penn State several years ago, we never heard the end of it, both on this board and emanating from the University itself.
In 1985, Richard Moll dubbed the name “Public Ivies” and included 8 schools of which PSU was not one. He did, however, include PSU as one of 9 “worthy runners-up.” Years later Matthew Greene expanded the list to 30 public ivies regionally...PSU was on this list.I don't think that's the case ... at all. I know back when I attended, the Honors Program (which has now expanded and morphed into the Schreyer Honors College) was considered the rough equivalent of a "public ivy" education, but not the university as a whole.
Oh for gods sake chill out. It’s a survey. Psu is very solid. And has a lot of people working in Ny and on Wall Street. And, this survey seems to take into account all schools rather than stratifying in ways you are perhaps accustomed to. On an all in list that may be about right.
I wonder if the recent football success will result in increased applications for admission. I know this was the case at Villanova a few years ago after the basketball championship, although Villanova heretofore was not well known nationally. But I also think the reputation was hurt by the hazing death at the frat and the reputation of PSU as a party school. Some parents are afraid to send their kids there due to these alcohol related events and other distractions. Not that this doesn’t happen elsewhere but it seems Penn State’s reputation was tarnished as a result of that kid dying and parents are cautious about these things.
In 1985, Richard Moll dubbed the name “Public Ivies” and included 8 schools of which PSU was not one. He did, however, include PSU as one of 9 “worthy runners-up.” Years later Matthew Greene expanded the list to 30 public ivies regionally...PSU was on this list.
I can say that last year a record number of applicants that had been accepted to main campus decided to attend. Even with cramming students into study lounges there wasn't enough room at main so the university decided to offer scholarships to the tune of ~$10k each to students that had been accepted to main campus but would be willing to attend a branch campus for their first 2 years.
More than the football team / hazing death what is impacting the applications is the fact that while PSU is overpriced imo, they're still tens of thousands of dollars less than private universities. From the PA ones above us on the list - Bucknell $70k, Lehigh $65k, Lafayette $64k, Gettysburg $62k, F&M $65k. PSU coming in at ~$32k in state and ~$46k out of state, is still a comparative savings for your average student who won't get a huge financial aid package from those private schools. Even compared to mid-range private schools it's a savings i.e. Scranton $61k, Moravian $53k, Juniata $53k.
The point is not whether “he” was joking. It’s that this board can sometimes just be so freaking provincial.HE. WAS. JOKING.
The point is not whether “he” was joking. It’s that this board can sometimes just be so freaking provincial.
Forgetting about rankings, and based only upon my own, totally objective, opinion, I consider Penn State a good university, not a great one. The Ivies are great ones. Stanford is a great one, and Duke, and MIT. Among the good ones, we are in the middle. I would put us behind schools like Virginia and Michigan, for example. I believe we are not as good a school as we were before the Sandusky Scandal and that the current leadership is largely responsible for that decline. There are a lot of terrific students at Penn State, but there are a lot of very average ones too. Great things happen, and scandalous things as well. In that respect, we are just like so many other schools... Ohio State, Michigan State, Pitt, Tennessee, UCLA.... We can take pride in who we are, but we should not exaggerate our position in the academic cosmos. If we are to improve our standing, we need new leadership. Those now in control will do nothing to elevate our status, and will likely lead us on a slow, but steady, decline.
Forgetting about rankings, and based only upon my own, totally objective, opinion, I consider Penn State a good university, not a great one. The Ivies are great ones. Stanford is a great one, and Duke, and MIT. Among the good ones, we are in the middle. I would put us behind schools like Virginia and Michigan, for example. I believe we are not as good a school as we were before the Sandusky Scandal and that the current leadership is largely responsible for that decline. There are a lot of terrific students at Penn State, but there are a lot of very average ones too. Great things happen, and scandalous things as well. In that respect, we are just like so many other schools... Ohio State, Michigan State, Pitt, Tennessee, UCLA.... We can take pride in who we are, but we should not exaggerate our position in the academic cosmos. If we are to improve our standing, we need new leadership. Those now in control will do nothing to elevate our status, and will likely lead us on a slow, but steady, decline.