PSU Statement on Spanier trial decision
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Oh my God, he disagrees with you, so what! Ehy is it not possible to have differing opinions on this board without being called a troll?
In my opinion, at this point he has
In my opinion the only recourse he has left is trolling.
I agree there was a better way to handle it but that's based on what we know now. I'm not sure based on what happened then because I wasn't involved. There are many things I've done in my job that down the road I wished I had done differently...nothing that would get me charged with a misdemeanor, but things I would change nonetheless. I just think many people are being too judgmental based on today's knowledge and based on what they think they would do in a similar situation. Studies have shown that in tough situations like that most people do as little as possible, not because they're bad people but because they're unsure what to do and they want it to go away.
If you feel that my opinion = trolling then just put me on ignore. I couldn't care less if you respond to me or not.
I hear what you are saying but I dont give them a pass. They f'd up and deserve some blame. I gave them the benefit of the doubt before this trial and came away feeling annoyed that they were so lazy.
Much as I disagree with this poster on many of his points, this is accurate.
I'll also note had it (a) not involved Paterno and (b) not involved a school known for being honest and playing by the rules,the blowback would have been far less. Syracuse is a good example. It's the old Man bites Dog vs Dog bites Man. You expect the Dog to bite so it's not big news.
The bottom line to me is that the BOT did PSU no favors in how they responded to thia in 2011, and more importantly when reporting first occurres in Spring 2011, they should have been all over this to prepare fhe University better. I'll also add the C/S/S did PSU no favors in how they handles the situation either because 1998 investigation happened and they were aware of Sandusky's inappropriate behavior then and that should have triggered a more thorough response than simply calling Raykovitz and telling him to keep creepo from bringing children to campus. There are just gut feelings you have when you hear about something happening AGAIN with the same person. To me it is common sense to think of the possibility of worse.
Are you OK with university coaches and administrators being held to a different & higher standard of the law than the Second Mile & associated state agencies?
Clemente did not know they knew of 98 and was also did not address Paterno's sexual nature comment . Especially with the knowledge that they knew of a similar situation in 98.
Absolutely not. Now that we know the truth when will Joe be properly honored?
Joe qualified his statement with "I don't know what you would call it" multiple times. It was also not cross examined or heard to verify it's accuracy. It's worthless. Especially since MM once again testified that he didn't tell JVP about anything sexual.
We only know that Joe was aware of an investigation of JS, not that he was aware of the subject matter. Since it would have been against the law for him to know the subject matter, it's likely he didn't know.
Stop trying to connect dots that aren't there.
I was wondering what sort of settlements PSU would have to pay now that the admins have been "convicted" of the EWOC misdemeanors, surely it would be much less than they already paid. Then it occurred to me, if PSU didn't pay out to those victims and admit guilt, C/S/S probably would have walked a long time ago.
The whole thing is a big scam. PSU BOT is happy that didn't fail in their fiduciary duties because of the 3 misdemeanors. The State is happy that they got their "convictions". Curly and Schultz won't get any jail time, Spanier will win on appeal. It was all about saving face. All it cost were millions of dollars and the reputation of our alma mater that was unfairly tainted.
"The verdict, their words and pleas indicate a profound failure of leadership. " ... this is the only part I have a serious problem with. The message would have been the same without this statement. It was over the top, unnecessary and insulting. The message was the same without this sentence.
There was some face saving but the PSU BOT still looks really really bad paying out hundreds of millions of dollars (under the premise of a massive cover up) for what amounted to 3 misdemeanors. Much explaining to do.
It reeks of hindsight bias. Given the situation, no one on this planet could have handled it any better at the time. Leaders are people too, and they make mistakes, usually with the best of intentions. Making a mistake does not equate to a profound failure of leadership. Yet now they want to play Monday morning QB and critique their actions. Shame on whoever wrote that statement. That statement is actually a profound failure of leadership, so were many actions of the OG BOT and Erickson (the guy who gave JS the keys!). I guess that tearing down C/S/S makes them feel better about their own failures.
I agree, but they only look bad to a few of us in the know. The ignorant masses think they "got it right". I doubt they will ever be held accountable for their actions.
And not one child in PA is safer for the entire fiasco...nobody learned a damn thing!!!!
Making a decision with the best intentions that, in hindsight, is viewed as a mistake... is not a profound failure of leadership. The irony is that it's only viewed as a mistake in hindsight because of a profound failure of leadership by the BOT.
Kgilbert78 ... it is very wrong and is only correct with the benefit of hindsight ... more importantly it was completely unnecessary and in very bad taste. It added nothing to their statement.
