PSU students names listed for rioting after Wisconson game...

[bwifan]

Don't like listing student's name's on record before they have their day in court.... They have only been charged to knowledge at this point...

Eleven people, ages 18 to 39, have been charged with violations ranging from criminal mischief to disorderly conduct following Penn State's Big Ten title win over Wisconsin.


According to State College Police, eight of the individuals charged are currently students at Penn State, and could face expulsion from the school if found guilty of the charges.

Three of the students face felony riot charges, while all face lesser charges.


Rioting fans caused thousands of dollars in damage in downtown State College following Pen State’s dramatic come-from-behind win back in December to claim the title.


The crowd became so unruly that police were forced to use pepper spray to break up the crowd.

According to the state’s crime code, those convicted of a third-degree felony face up to seven years in prison and fines up to $15,000.

The Penn State students charged in the Dec. 3 riot are:

- Eli Wood, 19, felony

- Kenneth Anderson, 18, misdemeanor

- Sung Joon Roh, 19, misdemeanor

- Eric Zimmerer, 20, misdemeanor

- Nathaniel Miller, 22, summary

- Jimmy Wang, 21, felony

- Samuel L. Dedian, 21, summary

- Robert F. Wasileski, 20, felony

Others charged are:

- Troy E. Johnson, 39, misdemeanor

- Steven N. Clayton, 21, summary

- Ryan J. Hampson, 23, summons

Riots after the Oct. 22 Penn State - Ohio State game led to 13 arrests, including five students who were charged with felonies for rioting. The crowd caused an estimated $30,000 in damages.

 

[njlion73]

Don't like listing student's name's on record before they have their day in court.... They have only been charged to knowledge at this point...




A couple of those were also charged with something to do with the police horses. I have a lot of trouble being too sympathetic with those arrested. What exactly is the point of damaging property and possibly injuring horses, while celebrating. Sorry, I just don't get it.

 

[njlion73]

A couple of those were also charged with something to do with the police horses. I have a lot of trouble being too sympathetic with those arrested. What exactly is the point of damaging property and possibly injuring horses, while celebrating. Sorry, I just don't get it.

 

[MtNittany]

Don't like listing student's name's on record before they have their day in court...

Then why did you repeat the mistake?

 

[Frabjous]

Why did you 'list their names before they have their day in Court.'?

 

[jim cummings]

What was the 39 year old doing? Must've been on a Mecca.

 

[bwifan]

Then why did you repeat the mistake?

I knew some would ask this, but thought people actually might be able to read my post where it's states that it's already out in public forums.

 

[bwifan]

What was the 39 year old doing? Must've been on a Mecca.

What I was thinking... what is a 39 yr. old person doing damaging property....

 

[Victor E. Bell]

§ 5511.2. Police animals.

(a) Illegal to taunt police animals.--It shall be unlawful for any person to willfully or maliciously taunt, torment, tease, beat, kick or strike a police animal. Any person who violates any of the provisions of this subsection commits a felony of the third degree.

(b) Illegal to torture police animals.--It shall be unlawful for any person to willfully or maliciously torture, mutilate, injure, disable, poison or kill a police animal. Any person who violates any of the provisions of this subsection commits a felony of the second degree.

(c) Restitution.--In any case in which a defendant is convicted of a violation of subsection (a) or (b), the defendant shall be ordered to make restitution to the agency or individual owning the animal for any veterinary bills, for replacement costs of the animal if it is disabled or killed and for the salary of the animal's handler for the period of time the handler's services are lost to the agency.

(d) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:

"Accelerant detection dog." A dog which is trained for accelerant detection, commonly referred to as arson canines.

"Bomb detection dog." A dog which is trained to locate a bomb or explosives by scent.

"Narcotic detection dog." A dog which is trained to locate narcotics by scent.

"Police animal." An animal, including, but not limited to, dogs and horses, used by the Pennsylvania State Police, a police department created by a metropolitan transportation authority operating under 74 Pa.C.S. Ch. 17 (relating to metropolitan transportation authorities), a police department created pursuant to the act of April 6, 1956 (1955 P.L.1414, No.465), known as the Second Class County Port Authority Act, the Capitol Police, the Department of Corrections, a county facility or office or by a municipal police department, fire department, search and rescue unit or agency or handler under the supervision of such department, search and rescue unit or agency in the performance of the functions or duties of such department, search and rescue unit or agency, whether the animal is on duty or not on duty. The term shall include, but not be limited to, an accelerant detection dog, bomb detection dog, narcotic detection dog, search and rescue dog and tracking animal.

"Search and rescue dog." A dog which is trained to locate lost or missing persons, victims of natural or manmade disasters and human bodies.

"Tracking animal." An animal which is trained to track or used to pursue a missing person, escaped inmate or fleeing felon.

(June 22, 1999, P.L.118, No.19, eff. 60 days; Dec. 22, 2005, P.L.483, No.96, eff. 60 days; June 26, 2014, P.L.787, No.75, eff. 60 days)



2014 Amendment. Act 75 amended subsec. (b).

2005 Amendment. Act 96 amended subsec. (d).

1999 Amendment. Act 19 added section 5511.2.

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...pe=HTM&ttl=18&div=0&chpt=55&sctn=11&subsctn=2

 

[Sviatoslav]

A couple of those were also charged with something to do with the police horses. I have a lot of trouble being too sympathetic with those arrested. What exactly is the point of damaging property and possibly injuring horses, while celebrating. Sorry, I just don't get it.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

Mongo only pawn, in game of life.

 

[maxxedout]

This is much worse than I would have guessed, however it's not nearly as unjust as using pepper spray for those rushing the field in 2005 OSU-PSU. I ran on the field smartly -- left the student section, ran around to the alum section jumped down onto field, snapped some photos unmolested by the po-po then jumped back up and left casually.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

This is much worse than I would have guessed, however it's not nearly as unjust as using pepper spray for those rushing the field in 2005 OSU-PSU. I ran on the field smartly -- left the student section, ran around to the alum section jumped down onto field, snapped some photos unmolested by the po-po then jumped back up and left casually.

See, that's cuz you're a thinker, not a stinker.

 

[Lion84]

Philly.com made sure they got the story up fast - that crap site never prints anything about PSU outside of football and that coverage is garbage but if its negative they make sure the jump all over it. Cancelled my subscription to the Inky long ago because of the awful sports coverage - Eagles 24/7. I get it but they could spend a little time on PSU since there are a lot of Alumni in the area but they only seemed interested when its Sandusky or crap like this related.

 

[ejb25]

What is a 39 yr old doing out rioting with 19-23 yr olds?

What I was thinking... what is a 39 yr. old person doing damaging property....

 

[Nitwit]

Makes me yearn for the old days when all we did was go outside the girls dorms and yell for panties.

 

[Blueblood4eva]

Makes me yearn for the old days when all we did was go outside the girls dorms and yell for panties.

That might also be deemed a felony in today's world of offended Millennials. "Hands up"!

 

[PSUSignore]

I agree that publishing their names prior to confirmed guilt is in poor taste but I believe them being charged puts it in the public record so there's not much that can be done about that. With all of the videos from cell phones out there I'm guessing those that were charged have likely been caught on tape and will have a difficult time arguing for their innocence. In this day and age cameras are everywhere, one would be wise to remember that before acting like a fool. If they did damage property, I hope they are indeed held accountable. There's no reason to act like that over a football game result.

 

[Raffycorn]

That might also be deemed a felony in today's world of offended Millennials. "Hands up"!

Millennials aren't the ones who filed charges against these students. And they're not the ones who made looking at a police animal the wrong way into a felony. I think you'd find that millenials, on the whole, tend to be in favor of far fewer people having their lives ruined by the justice system than their more senior counterparts.

 

[KnightSlayer]

Millennials aren't the ones who filed charges against these students. And they're not the ones who made looking at a police animal the wrong way into a felony. I think you'd find that millenials, on the whole, tend to be in favor of far fewer people having their lives ruined by the justice system than their more senior counterparts.

A 10th grader was arrested at a school near my job for barking at a police dog. Dog was in car out front of school as the kids were leaving.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

If they were arrested or charged, the names are public. They don't have to be convicted. I get people's irritation at that but the alternative is to live in a country where the G can grab you off the street and never have to make any public declaration as to why, such as is the practice in some countries I'm glad I don't live in. Again, I get that this is a bone of contention for many people, I do, but look at it from that standpoint.

 

[Brad908]

Millennials aren't the ones who filed charges against these students. And they're not the ones who made looking at a police animal the wrong way into a felony. I think you'd find that millenials, on the whole, tend to be in favor of far fewer people having their lives ruined by the justice system than their more senior counterparts.

Millennials also didn't give themselves participation trophies. Older generations love placing blame for their own mistakes.

 

[PSUSignore]

This is much worse than I would have guessed, however it's not nearly as unjust as using pepper spray for those rushing the field in 2005 OSU-PSU. I ran on the field smartly -- left the student section, ran around to the alum section jumped down onto field, snapped some photos unmolested by the po-po then jumped back up and left casually.

That's odd. I too went on the field after the OSU game. I got some pics on the 50 yard line, stayed there until the police escorted us out through one of the tunnels. I didn't see anyone getting pepper sprayed.

 

[jimarnp]

What was the 39 year old doing? Must've been on a Mecca.

Senator Blutarski?

 

[psuro]

What is a 39 yr old doing out rioting with 19-23 yr olds?

Apparently not getting lucky like he had hoped.

 

[psuro]

A 10th grader was arrested at a school near my job for barking at a police dog. Dog was in car out front of school as the kids were leaving.

Deserved it.

 

[psuro]

Millennials also didn't give themselves participation trophies. Older generations love placing blame for their own mistakes.

Jay blames you.

 

[jim cummings]

Michigan 07, I staggered up to a mounted officer outside the south end zone with a half crushed bottle of beam and asked him if I could pet his horse. He was cool with it so I did what it do and off to somewhere else I went.

 

[91Joe95]

What was the 39 year old doing? Must've been on a Mecca.

What you talkin bout, Willis?

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

This is much worse than I would have guessed, however it's not nearly as unjust as using pepper spray for those rushing the field in 2005 OSU-PSU. I ran on the field smartly -- left the student section, ran around to the alum section jumped down onto field, snapped some photos unmolested by the po-po then jumped back up and left casually.

You do realize there's no Statute of Limitations in PA for trespassing at sporting events. And we know Ganim and OAG monitor this board.

 

[johnmpsu]

Millennials aren't the ones who filed charges against these students. And they're not the ones who made looking at a police animal the wrong way into a felony. I think you'd find that millenials, on the whole, tend to be in favor of far fewer people having their lives ruined by the justice system than their more senior counterparts.

Don't destroy other peoples property while "celebrating" and you won't have your life ruined by the justice system. It's really not complicated or unfair.

 

[IANit]

What I was thinking... what is a 39 yr. old person doing damaging property....

WTH's age got to do with it? I'm 47 and still like to damage a little property when celebrating a big win. What other way is there to celebrate?

 

[PSU_Nut]

This is much worse than I would have guessed, however it's not nearly as unjust as using pepper spray for those rushing the field in 2005 OSU-PSU. I ran on the field smartly -- left the student section, ran around to the alum section jumped down onto field, snapped some photos unmolested by the po-po then jumped back up and left casually.

They did a much better job this year at the Ohio State game. Just allowing people on field while guarding the goalposts.

 

[PSU_Nut]

Don't like listing student's name's on record before they have their day in court.... They have only been charged to knowledge at this point...

Why should college students get special treatment? Do you think they should not name those charged with murder, child molestation or other crimes?

 

[Alphalion75]

Then why did you repeat the mistake?

My thought exactly. They object to having student names posted in the paper and then post them again on another medium. I suppose for us who do not read the CDT.

 

[heckmans]

Don't like listing student's name's on record before they have their day in court.... They have only been charged to knowledge at this point...

Eleven people, ages 18 to 39, have been charged with violations ranging from criminal mischief to disorderly conduct following Penn State's Big Ten title win over Wisconsin.


According to State College Police, eight of the individuals charged are currently students at Penn State, and could face expulsion from the school if found guilty of the charges.

Three of the students face felony riot charges, while all face lesser charges.


Rioting fans caused thousands of dollars in damage in downtown State College following Pen State’s dramatic come-from-behind win back in December to claim the title.


The crowd became so unruly that police were forced to use pepper spray to break up the crowd.

According to the state’s crime code, those convicted of a third-degree felony face up to seven years in prison and fines up to $15,000.

The Penn State students charged in the Dec. 3 riot are:

- Eli Wood, 19, felony

- Kenneth Anderson, 18, misdemeanor

- Sung Joon Roh, 19, misdemeanor

- Eric Zimmerer, 20, misdemeanor

- Nathaniel Miller, 22, summary

- Jimmy Wang, 21, felony

- Samuel L. Dedian, 21, summary

- Robert F. Wasileski, 20, felony

Others charged are:

- Troy E. Johnson, 39, misdemeanor

- Steven N. Clayton, 21, summary

- Ryan J. Hampson, 23, summons

Riots after the Oct. 22 Penn State - Ohio State game led to 13 arrests, including five students who were charged with felonies for rioting. The crowd caused an estimated $30,000 in damages.

Sorry, but you are wrong. People are presumed innocent until found guilty, but arrest records are public information. Every day on the news, the names of people arrested and charged are released, even though they haven't "had their day in court." There's no issue with releasing the names, and certainly the fact that they are students doesn't change anything.

I have little sympathy for anyone who takes part in this crap. I can't fathom how being happy that your team wins a game and wanting to celebrate = destruction of property and rioting.
It's a crime and those committing them should be prosecuted. Sorry, Not Sorry.

 

[Lion84]

Sorry, but you are wrong. People are presumed innocent until found guilty, but arrest records are public information. Every day on the news, the names of people arrested and charged are released, even though they haven't "had their day in court." There's no issue with releasing the names, and certainly the fact that they are students doesn't change anything.

I have little sympathy for anyone who takes part in this crap. I can't fathom how being happy that your team wins a game and wanting to celebrate = destruction of property and rioting.
It's a crime and those committing them should be prosecuted. Sorry, Not Sorry.

When I was at PSU we won a lot of big games (80-84) and there were more than a few times that they ripped the goals posts down and carried the pieces to Old Main. A guy in my dorm used to go down with his hacksaw and cut off pieced for us - still have like three of them in the man cave. I understand why they don't want anyone near the goals since there have been more than a few severe injuries when they have fallen on people. But I don't recall the police arresting anyone or the students "rioting" - I don't get why that has become a thing - I saw it after the OSU game this year - we went on the field took a few pictures and left - had a last beer at Liberty downtown and headed to the Hotel and saw all the police and people on Beaver Ave - made sure we stayed on College - they did it again after the Wisky Game - I think you can celebrate without destroying stuff.

 

[NittPicker]

WTH's age got to do with it? I'm 47 and still like to damage a little property when celebrating a big win. What other way is there to celebrate?

I'm with you. After we won the B1G championship game I went into my garage and took a baseball bat to my car. It was awesome!! Seriously though, it's always more fun to damage property when it belongs to someone else.

 

[Raffycorn]

When I was at PSU we won a lot of big games (80-84) and there were more than a few times that they ripped the goals posts down and carried the pieces to Old Main. A guy in my dorm used to go down with his hacksaw and cut off pieced for us - still have like three of them in the man cave. I understand why they don't want anyone near the goals since there have been more than a few severe injuries when they have fallen on people. But I don't recall the police arresting anyone or the students "rioting" - I don't get why that has become a thing - I saw it after the OSU game this year - we went on the field took a few pictures and left - had a last beer at Liberty downtown and headed to the Hotel and saw all the police and people on Beaver Ave - made sure we stayed on College - they did it again after the Wisky Game - I think you can celebrate without destroying stuff.

The overwhelming majority of students did celebrate without destroying anything.

And, for what it's worth, I would consider ripping the goalposts out of the ground after a win to be "destroying stuff", too. Functionally, there's no difference between what students do now (that you call "rioting") and what students did then (which you don't seem to consider to be rioting). They just didn't arrest the students back then, and now they break out the body armor and zipties.

 

[83wuzme]

Most of the names on that list were old enough to be juniors, seniors and grad students. What a way to screw up your future before it begins by committing a possible felony.