Quentin Wright Was Just About As Productive As Zain
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Tipping a couple back after long day of fishing.?🤨
Different type of wrestlers. Zain would maul his opponents. He would almost grind guys where they would submit with bow and arrow.
Quinton looked for big move to put opponent on back .
Tipping a couple back after long day of fishing.?🤨
Different type of wrestlers. Zain would maul his opponents. He would almost grind guys where they would submit with bow and arrow.
Quinton looked for big move to put opponent on back .
Nice Dan Patrick show reference
All time funniest radio show call in was Joan in Visalia calling Jim Rome
To answer your question, Q just might be the most underated PSU wrestler. That said, noone brings the pain like Zain. Sheer domination. @Callthestall is correct.
Q was almost a three timer. Both these guys are legends.
Q = 6-1-2-1
Z = 5-1-1-1
both wrestled as TR FR
my point was not that Q was as dominant on a match per match basis, but the placings were close.
i guess what i'm ultimately trying to say is that QW is massively underrated.
Z = 5-1-1-1
both wrestled as TR FR
my point was not that Q was as dominant on a match per match basis, but the placings were close.
i guess what i'm ultimately trying to say is that QW is massively underrated.
Agree that he is underrated. Maybe due to the terrible sophomore season by his standards up until BIGs. His career from soph BI1Gs through senior season was as stellar as any other, but there may still be a lingering penalty for what happened that season. He is a great one though. Seemed to melt into the background more than most.
Quentin was certainly one of PSU's all-time greats. His pin of Grant Gambrall signaled the start of the current PSU dominant run. And his win over Kilgore was a tactical masterpiece. And he remained humble through it all.
very humble. I remember that pin like it was yesterday, and yes, it lit the match that still burns brightly. It removed the mantle of inevitable victory that Iowa's wrestlers had enjoyed.
Q was overshadowed on his own team by Taylor and Ruth. Maybe that's a little different if he didn't let Bosak suck him into a low-energy final.
Was also bizarre that Kilgore was so overrated -- a very good wrestler but became Babe Ruth when Foster pinned himself -- and then legend-wise Q got barely a golf clap for being clearly better.
Was also bizarre that Kilgore was so overrated -- a very good wrestler but became Babe Ruth when Foster pinned himself -- and then legend-wise Q got barely a golf clap for being clearly better.
This is one of your, 'it's Saturday and I am bored, so I'll create some clickbait and sit back and watch the fun' kind of times.
You should have used RBY, Mark Hall or Cenzo, to give it a little more legs.
I guess the phrase "just about" is open to broad interpretation. Even so the answer is a resounding "no".
I recall back when the whole Flo squad was singing the praises of one Ryan Anderson who was destined for great things at the next level. When in a post I likened that Mountain dew swilling kid's physique to the Pillsbury dough boy, and said he won't do much in D1, your response was, "read more, write less"!
I think this is such a time for you - https://pennstatewrestlingclub.org/career-bonus-wins/
By the way, I stand by that original tongue and cheek critique.
It's a long off season, keep em coming, but I think it's more fun to watch you trigger IRONBIRD.
man when Quentin had it going on not many could beat him he made Kilgore look like he never wrestled!
I was always hoping Q would develop his top game more and wrestle more like Mark Perry. His long, lean body looked like it would be ideal for punishing guys on bottom. He just seemed to be more comfortable in neutral. I'll remember him most for his classy demeanor in victory and defeat.
I didn't appreciate the clubs Kilgore directed at Quentin in that match, but it didn't affect Quentin in the least. That match was a master class in technique by Quentin. On a side note, I always loved how, after Quentin would pin an opponent, he would stay down on a knee until his opponent was first to get up off the mat. That was a much better technique than Bo's "let me offer you a humiliating assist up off the mat" technique : )
I don't know if it was you or Chickenman that pointed out the group of officials laughing when Q hit the same takedown the 3rd time on Kilgore. That's pretty funny to watch.
I got a chance to watch the video of QW yesterday about his career. Sad with the turmoil at home and how he really hated wrestling for awhile there and how he was forcing himself to wrestle like Cael. The shoulder injury seemed to be the turning point to abandon that style and go back to wrestle like QW. His words were to just throw people. Big kudos to Bonnie as well about getting his head straight as well to his girlfriend and family (now his wife). Seemed like he helped Cael evolve as well into letting wrestlers develop their own style. Plus also allowing people to open up in communication. He mentions the incident were everyone knew Andrew Long had substance issues but were afraid to tell the staff as they would get punished as a team (44 minute run the team had to do as punishment for one guy going out and celebrating his 21st). Very cool to see the coaches and wrestlers morph into this dynamo. Guessing DT will have Okie State moving the same way
I didn't notice that, so it must have been Chickenman ... or maybe Cowbell?
my all time fav Quentin match was that standing cradle on Grambrell!
well wasn't Kilgore undefeated and former champ how can you call him overrrated plus he was pretty big at 197 compared to Quentin!
Kilgore was losing 5-1 in the national finals when Foster pinned himself. That's why he was a returning champ.
I'll call him overrated for that, and also because he was being called a lock to win the title all year long, with Q not even being considered a possibility as a returning champ/2x finalist. Kilgore was invincible because he was undefeated with a good bonus rate. But 197 was an atrocious weight that year -- a 3-man race between Q, Kilgore, and Wilps, nobody else close.
Kilgore did beat Wilps at Midlands, so fair to say he was the 2nd best guy at the weight. Very good, just not what he was being puffed up to be.
There were 3 other guys with future college/freestyle success in that weight -- Schiller, Gadson, and Perry were all on Q's side of the bracket (and Q pinned Schiller). Kilgore did not face any of them all year.
But don't trust me on how bad that weight was -- look at 197 in the following year. The top 2 seeds, who both made the national finals, were a true freshman and the returning 5th placer at 174.
More data.
NCAA tournament points:
Zain 93.5 (23.5 bonus) #12 overall
Q 75 (10 bonus) outside top 60
I would have bet that Q was well north of 15 on bonus.
I would've also guessed more than 10, but here are his bonus matches:
2009: +2 (pinned Sigmon)
2011: +2 (pinned Gambrall)
2012: +4 (MD Ferguson, MD Clymer, pinned Bennett)
2013: +2 (pinned Schiller)
He had a difficult bracket in 2011, and IIRC his bonus rate at 197 was down vs. the previous year at 184.
It wasn't nearly as dramatic as Bo but Q getting a "seal PSU team title" walk off was such a chefs kiss.
He did not pin himself. Kilgore pinned him. As that sequence appeared to me Kilgore was the one pushing the offense (and had been since mid first period) and was obviously ready to deal with the OkieSt sit-under and hang-on defense. Without the fall call the 3rd period is 5-5 or 6-5 Kilgore with Kilgore starting down.
Kilgore did not luck into that championshipw with Foster somehow doing something idiotic. Kilgore countered an OkieSt counter that they employed often and were very good at. Kilgore was a legitimate threat to beat Q, and Q's preparedness was extraordinary.
Foster got his hips too low (it happens) and chose to roll to his back (which was idiotic given his hip position).
I agree with you that Kilgore was a legit threat, and that Q was supremely prepared.
My point is that Kilgore did not match the hype. Being over-hyped was not his fault, but was fact.
In my memory, that was the first time I could visibly see that the coaching staff had an overt fingerprint on a match beyond the general training regimen. They had clearly game planned for Kilgore and Q executed it masterfully. I remember comments after that match saying similarly.
yea well shit happens and we wont see it in the final score see Rohn from Lehigh!winning is all that matters!
If I'm honest, Q had a poor gameplan for that match. Maybe the worst in the Cael era. He was better than Bosak every day of the week and twice on Saturday. I bet he would wrestle differently if given half the chance. I say that even though my best friend in college was Bosak's dad.
That Bosak match was so frustrating. Quentin seemed content to let Bosak block him off by keeping his left thumb planted against Quentin's throat for much of the match. Tactically, it was the opposite of the Kilgore match in that Bosak had a solid game plan (block off for the whole match and convert his one and only takedown attempt in O.T.) while Quentin seemed content to allow Bosak to slow down the match while also not seeming to having a solid gameplan of his own.
The turning point in my mind was when Quentin allowed Bosak a seemingly easy escape with 30 seconds left in the 2nd period after getting the reversal earlier. This is just another example in the argument of whether a reversal should be worth three points. On the other hand, had Quentin had a more dominant top game, a la Zain, he would be a three-timer. And on a separate note, the Waist and Ankle Ride Stalling five second count is one of the better recent rule additions in my mind.
Dan Patrick and Rob Dibble had some funny moments. Dibble got fired because of some of his blunt but funny locker room stories.
