I find that hard to believe, Clifford was hurting and just not right against Illinois. Like I've said many times, he's - by far - the MVP of the B1G and has the heart of a lion
Please, just stop. He is a liar that has a well established reputation for playing unhealthy quarterbacks. This is just the latest example. Might cost us a key recruit.Why would he tell OSU that Clifford is anything but 100%? This is just gamesmanship, I doubt anyone actually believes Clifford is suddenly fully recovered after what we saw on Saturday.
Nah, I don't think so.Please, just stop. He is a liar that has a well established reputation for playing unhealthy quarterbacks. This is just the latest example. Might cost us a key recruit.
As I said elsewhere, none of us know anything about the state of Clifford’s health.Clifford apparently underwent a full body transplant since the end of the ILL game
His post is BS. These staffs have Doctors and Clifford isn’t an idiot. The loss sucked but no need to make up BS either. You cannot keep competitors off the field.Nah, I don't think so.
I think others are right -- he's just keeping OSU guessing. Nobody honestly thinks Clifford will be 100%, but by suggesting it, perhaps OSU will need to gameplan for the full complement of run and pass plays.
I wouldn't read too much into it.
Now, if Clifford is really hurt and CJF rolls him out there to get pounded anyway -- jeopardizing more serious injury -- then we have a real problem.
Seems as though @Tom McAndrew took out the trash tonight but forgot a bag.Please, just stop. He is a liar that has a well established reputation for playing unhealthy quarterbacks. This is just the latest example. Might cost us a key recruit.
Based on what?Please, just stop. He is a liar that has a well established reputation for playing unhealthy quarterbacks. This is just the latest example. Might cost us a key recruit.
A fifth of Jack I imagine.Based on what?
Not worth engaging a disingenuous troll like that fool.Based on what?
But if Franklin didn’t start/play him, these geniuses on this board would be yelling about how much of a pvssy SC is and how CJF is fvcking up by playing the kid who couldn’t get it done against Iowa.There is no way Clifford will be 100%. Not after the way he was beat up in the Illinois game. He never should have started it played much against Illinois. It was obvious he was not well.
They were actually saying that about SC DURING the Iowa game when he came back out on the sideline.But if Franklin didn’t start/play him, these geniuses on this board would be yelling about how much of a pvssy SC is and how CJF is fvcking up by playing the kid who couldn’t get it done against Iowa.
He's now Oldschoolski on the new board.Not worth engaging a disingenuous troll like that fool.
But if Franklin didn’t start/play him, these geniuses on this board would be yelling about how much of a pvssy SC is and how CJF is fvcking up by playing the kid who couldn’t get it done against Iowa.
I want a coach who views PSU as a destination job, not a stepping stone.Once again, he didn’t shut the door on leaving PSU.
It has the appearance of this .......Franklins gone, you can just tell. Just was totally uninterested in that PC just as you could tell during the entire Ill game that he was somewhere else. Just man up and say it already.
I'm not a doctor but it seems unlikely that Clifford was hurting so bad 3 days ago but he's expected to be 100% 4 days from now.Why would he tell OSU that Clifford is anything but 100%? This is just gamesmanship, I doubt anyone actually believes Clifford is suddenly fully recovered after what we saw on Saturday.
If CJF has one foot out the door, maybe Rhule will be the guy. It would surely be a destination job for him.I want a coach who views PSU as a destination job, not a stepping stone.
I can only think of two reasons why Franklin doesn't say he's not interested in USC. One is that he IS interested. The other is that he doesn't think PSU is committed to him.
He has been here eight years. Hardly a stepping stone.I want a coach who views PSU as a destination job, not a stepping stone.
I can only think of two reasons why Franklin doesn't say he's not interested in USC. One is that he IS interested. The other is that he doesn't think PSU is committed to him.
???He has been here eight years. Hardly a stepping stone.
You think the next coach is going to retire from PSU. Good luck???
If he leaves of his own accord it was a stepping stone.
I agree with what his statement could be and then let his agent do all the talking. This is if he is interested and he is so honest with recruits would t we be seeing a mass exodus by now?I don't want Franklin to leave, but his act is peevish and bordering on ridiculous considering he just a lost, on homecoming, to a 2-5 team. I can see he is well versed in double-speak and platitudes and committees(his weak little deferrals to his "leadership committee" ) these days. All tools employed by politicians and media figures not wanting accountability. I like Franklin, I have mostly respected Franklin minus a few very thin skinned outbursts(Blaming the thunderstorm in a loss to MSU in 2017, almost going after a PSU fan losing to OSU in 2018, and the "elite speech" come to mind), but I really hope I don't end up despising him over the next 4 or 5 weeks and I fear we are on that course. I get it, he doesn't want to show his hand, especially considering that if this season predictably goes down the toilet, he might not have anywhere to go, but I think he can make an affirmative statement of sorts. "I'd really like to continue to be the head football coach at PSU and I hope they feel that way." Leaves plenty of room for that to change at season's end. Media drips and double-speak are making it feel like we are being patronized. And before anyone says "well we are just dumb fans, it shouldn't matter what we think," you ever seen a coach totally lose a fanbase? How does that work out for administrators and the coach?
He is going to continue to tell the team and the recruits that he is staying ... right up until the moment he tells them he is leaving. He has no choice but to continue to lie to them right up to the last minute. Undoubtedly, he is struggling with this (as I think we all would), but he really has no choice, unless he resigns mid season and I don't think that will happen.I agree with what his statement could be and then let his agent do all the talking. This is if he is interested and he is so honest with recruits would t we be seeing a mass exodus by now?
Almost as bad as Ferentz’s gum chewing.Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously.
I dont think it has spread to his team or recruits, he starts with his agent, but as this stuff leaks....yeah, it will flow to the team and recruits.I agree with what his statement could be and then let his agent do all the talking. This is if he is interested and he is so honest with recruits would t we be seeing a mass exodus by now?
This statement is incorrect.He is going to continue to tell the team and the recruits that he is staying ... right up until the moment he tells them he is leaving. He has no choice but to continue to lie to them right up to the last minute.
I am no Franklin fanboy, but your take is ridiculous.Please, just stop. He is a liar that has a well established reputation for playing unhealthy quarterbacks. This is just the latest example. Might cost us a key recruit.
Unless we only seek "PSU men" as candidates there's always a flight risk for top coaches because there are schools out there with a lot to offer and that are more willing to open up the checkbook than PSU. I have no interest in limiting the field only to candidates that we think will stay for 20 years. Just get the best coach you can. Of course I'm also hoping Franklin doesn't leave so there's that.I want a coach who views PSU as a destination job, not a stepping stone.
I can only think of two reasons why Franklin doesn't say he's not interested in USC. One is that he IS interested. The other is that he doesn't think PSU is committed to him.
This says Franklin is the 9th highest paid in the country and highest in the BiG.Unless we only seek "PSU men" as candidates there's always a flight risk for top coaches because there are schools out there with a lot to offer and that are more willing to open up the checkbook than PSU. I have no interest in limiting the field only to candidates that we think will stay for 20 years. Just get the best coach you can. Of course I'm also hoping Franklin doesn't leave so there's that.
17.5 point underdog this week.Happy Valley Insider - James Franklin shares Sean Clifford status update ahead of PSU-OSU
The Nittany Lions are 17.5-point underdogs ahead of Saturday's showdown at Ohio State.bwi.rivals.com
With all respect, I know it’s Ohio State but they aren’t THAT dumb. .Nah, I don't think so.
I think others are right -- he's just keeping OSU guessing. Nobody honestly thinks Clifford will be 100%, but by suggesting it, perhaps OSU will need to gameplan for the full complement of run and pass plays.
I wouldn't read too much into it.
Now, if Clifford is really hurt and CJF rolls him out there to get pounded anyway -- jeopardizing more serious injury -- then we have a real problem.
If you're talking PSU men who do we list and do Tyler Bowen or Yurcich count? Seider or Terry Smith?Unless we only seek "PSU men" as candidates there's always a flight risk for top coaches because there are schools out there with a lot to offer and that are more willing to open up the checkbook than PSU. I have no interest in limiting the field only to candidates that we think will stay for 20 years. Just get the best coach you can. Of course I'm also hoping Franklin doesn't leave so there's that.
If you're talking PSU men who do we list and do Tyler Bowen or Yurcich count? Seider or Terry Smith?
It’s not true.Yeah, something seems weird about the clifford we all saw on Saturday being 100% healthy 3 days later? What gives?
Signs of a politician. Yes?If he unequivocally shoots down the rumors every time, then if and when the time comes that he doesn't directly shoot them down, everyone will know he's gone. From his perspective, better to keep it vague like he's doing.
$hit, he keeps mismanaging the depth chart the way he does he won't land another HC gig. There's no excuse for the QB and DLine situation in this day and age of player free agency. None!He keeps winning 5-6-7 games his name will stop coming up real quick for those other jobs.
You had me there until the "a top two/three NFL HC jobs." Maybe when waxing nostalgic over the number of SB wins, but not much more. And I'm a Stillers fan.He genuinely seemed insulted and rightfully so. You don't leave a top two/three NFL HC job for *any* college football job. It doesn't exist.
Newsflash: Franklin is the consummate salesman."We expect to have a 100 percent Sean Clifford this weekend," Franklin said.
Franklin is a liar. To me, this is worse than losing to Illinois.
Signs of a politician. Yes?
$hit, he keeps mismanaging the depth chart the way he does he won't land another HC gig. There's no excuse for the QB and DLine situation in this day and age of player free agency. None!
You had me there until the "a top two/three NFL HC jobs." Maybe when waxing nostalgic over the number of SB wins, but not much more. And I'm a Stillers fan.
Newsflash: Franklin is the consummate salesman.