Reid Injury

[Secret Asian Man]

looking at the snap counts....Reid never returned after getting hurt in the third defensive play of the game. That means neither starting corner played 95% of the game. Also, Donovan Johnson has been hurt almost all season. We were also missing our starting QB, of course, and probably our starting RB (Cain). Hope Reid is OK for the bowl.

 

[TheGLOV]

looking at the snap counts....Reid never returned after getting hurt in the third defensive play of the game. That means neither starting corner played 95% of the game. Also, Donovan Johnson has been hurt almost all season. We were also missing our starting QB, of course, and probably our starting RB (Cain). Hope Reid is OK for the bowl.

And we are still winning.

DEPTH!!!

 

[JWB389]

Also our best pass rusher, Gross-Matos did not play. I posted in another thread, that PSU team was seriously short handed on Saturday.

 

[BobPSU92]

Also our best pass rusher, Gross-Matos did not play. I posted in another thread, that PSU team was seriously short handed on Saturday.

And we were shorter-handed at wide receiver. Or maybe we were not shorter-handed.

 

[bcspsu]

Also our best pass rusher, Gross-Matos did not play. I posted in another thread, that PSU team was seriously short handed on Saturday.

You may laugh at this, but I actually thought that Rutgers was a better team than their record. I'm not saying that they are even an average team, but they're weren't completely lacking some decent players.

 

[bdgan]

You may laugh at this, but I actually thought that Rutgers was a better team than their record. I'm not saying that they are even an average team, but they're weren't completely lacking some decent players.

Liberty scored 34 on Rutgers.

PSU was certainly short handed but I think Clifford was the only one on offense. It was a good season for PSU but a weak performance on Saturday.

 

[JWB389]

You may laugh at this, but I actually thought that Rutgers was a better team than their record. I'm not saying that they are even an average team, but they're weren't completely lacking some decent players.

They looked better than I expected, probably for a lot of reasons.

 

[bcspsu]

Liberty scored 34 on Rutgers.

PSU was certainly short handed but I think Clifford was the only one on offense. It was a good season for PSU but a weak performance on Saturday.

Our last 3 performances against Rutgers have been poor. Obviously, our players don't believe that Rutgers poses any threat to them, and it shows in their play. I believe that if Clifford had played, we probably would've scored in the upper 30s or low 40s, but it still probably would've been a listless performance.

 

[Secret Asian Man]

Liberty scored 34 on Rutgers.

PSU was certainly short handed but I think Clifford was the only one on offense. It was a good season for PSU but a weak performance on Saturday.

Cain

 

[NJLions]

Reid has played poorly the last couple of games.

 

[marshall23]

Reid has played poorly the last couple of games.

IMO he hasn't been the same since his surgery.

 

[83wuzme]

Reid has probably been the most reliable CB we have had this season.

 

[PSU87]

You could kinda see Saturday coming. I didn't expect it to be quite that bad, but I honestly figured a 35-6 kinda game.
Multiple starters out on both sides of the ball including the starting QB. Then losing Reid besides.
Nothing left to play for and very little chance of actually losing the game.
Weak opponent.
Mediocre crowd.

 

[LongJakk]

Reid's is good, but he is too handsy. This sometimes causes him to lack ball awareness.

 

[Cpeplion]

Liberty scored 34 on Rutgers.

PSU was certainly short handed but I think Clifford was the only one on offense. It was a good season for PSU but a weak performance on Saturday.

Liberty was full strength with one of the best Wr's in the nation. PSU, like it or not, was running on fumes sat after running an unheard of BIG gauntlet with a one dimensional qb. It's irrational to compare that game to anything.

 

[BBrown]

Liberty scored 34 on Rutgers.

PSU was certainly short handed but I think Clifford was the only one on offense. It was a good season for PSU but a weak performance on Saturday.

Cain was out and when did Walker get hurt because I don't think he ever did come back in.

 

[BBrown]

IMO he hasn't been the same since his surgery.

This is one of the those "its funny that you saw that" type of posts because I thought the last 4 games of last season he was playing really well and better than his pre-injury. But something definitely happened in the summer or fall because he wasn't very good this season.
I felt bad for him though, that his Sr. day to ended like that.

 

[N&B4PSU]

You could kinda see Saturday coming. I didn't expect it to be quite that bad, but I honestly figured a 35-6 kinda game.
Multiple starters out on both sides of the ball including the starting QB. Then losing Reid besides.
Nothing left to play for and very little chance of actually losing the game.
Weak opponent.
Mediocre crowd.

Funny thing is that if we don't have our 3rd string QB out there at the Rtgrs 5 we probably wind up winning 34-6. [And at 34-6 R might have packed it in and maybe we get a cheap score and finish 41-6.. both 34-6 and 41-6 "look" lot better to voters and the CF world.]

 

[Uncle_Ned]

looking at the snap counts....Reid never returned after getting hurt in the third defensive play of the game. That means neither starting corner played 95% of the game. Also, Donovan Johnson has been hurt almost all season. We were also missing our starting QB, of course, and probably our starting RB (Cain). Hope Reid is OK for the bowl.

I hope he is fine, he's a good young man. As a player, he had had a poor season. Can't sugar coat it.

 

[Uncle_Ned]

Reid's is good, but he is too handsy. This sometimes causes him to lack ball awareness.

The other thing, is he's short and slow and has poor hips. Sorry, he was the weak link on the field, but we simply don't have anything to replace him with. Need to find a few experienced corners in the portal or go youth movement next year

 

[ryoder1]

Funny thing is that if we don't have our 3rd string QB out there at the Rtgrs 5 we probably wind up winning 34-6. [And at 34-6 R might have packed it in and maybe we get a cheap score and finish 41-6.. both 34-6 and 41-6 "look" lot better to voters and the CF world.]

Yes! That series was BRUTAL! I thought we could punch it in and get it to 34-6 which looks like a lopsided win. Sad that we could not dominate Rutgers on that series, pathetic. We only needed 5 yards and could not open a hole if our life depended on it.

I do think Rutgers played one of their best games if not their best game. Why? Not sure except they can get up for a game against PSU, border rivalry in their mind, light at the end of a miserable tunnel for them, who knows. With that said, even with the injuries we had a horrible performance. No energy or passion, sleepwalked through.

 

[artsandletters]

The other thing, is he's short and slow and has poor hips. Sorry, he was the weak link on the field, but we simply don't have anything to replace him with. Need to find a few experienced corners in the portal or go youth movement next year

Reid is not slow. You say he’s slow, short and has bad hips yet he started for three years and played a lot his freshman year and was the punt returner for one season. How do you explain that?

 

[bdgan]

Liberty was full strength with one of the best Wr's in the nation. PSU, like it or not, was running on fumes sat after running an unheard of BIG gauntlet with a one dimensional qb. It's irrational to compare that game to anything.

PSU with a backup QB and some tired players should be substantially better than Liberty (7-5) at full strength.

I think the staff made things difficult on Levis. It seemed to me that we often ran on 1st and second down then passed on 3rd and long. It was very predictable, not much to keep the defense off balance. PSU did run a couple of bubble screens on early downs but they were poorly disguised and Rutgers sniffed them out. Not many balls 10 yds over the middle.

 

[N&B4PSU]

First, this was the only game this year that I did not re-watch... simply clicked delete and tried to forget about it. Quickly.

The coaches appeared to have read our comments about how easily we were going to blow them out, so apparently decided to go plain jane, calling a very uninspired (imo) game.

A couple friends who did not see the game were quick to ask what happened. I explained missing personnel, the gauntlet, the hangover from osu and maybe the turkey (of course, Rgers ate turkey, too lol)... and it was Rtgrs super bowl blah blah blah.

What I got was.... dude, you were at home on senior day and were playing one of the very worst teams in CF... and you laid a turd.

Those are hard watching CF people... this win does not resonate well.

One (who scanned the stats line) also asked about Levis... saying he isn't much of a thrower. To which I openly wonder whether it was Levis or lousy playcalling, because mostly when he had time he threw it pretty well (looked very comfortable on his first pass). But it seemed it was ez to figure out when he'd be throwing and he was often under heavy pressure.

Me... I'm chalking it up to a lousy game we zombied our way through and I'm assuming that if we land a very good bowl game (roses vs either oregon or utah) that we'll bring our A game. [Presumes we are at full throttle and not missing a lot of kids.]

 

[Cpeplion]

PSU with a backup QB and some tired players should be substantially better than Liberty (7-5) at full strength.

I think the staff made things difficult on Levis. It seemed to me that we often ran on 1st and second down then passed on 3rd and long. It was very predictable, not much to keep the defense off balance. PSU did run a couple of bubble screens on early downs but they were poorly disguised and Rutgers sniffed them out. Not many balls 10 yds over the middle.

I would agree the gameplan was garbage and predictable...almost like watching an old Nebraska game. I just don't think you can put any stock into that game.

 

[MJG-90]

I think the staff made things difficult on Levis. It seemed to me that we often ran on 1st and second down then passed on 3rd and long. It was very predictable, not much to keep the defense off balance. PSU did run a couple of bubble screens on early downs but they were poorly disguised and Rutgers sniffed them out. Not many balls 10 yds over the middle.

It seemed to me that we'd get away from what was working early. We'd get a couple first downs running the ball. Then we'd try to throw the ball and next thing you know, we're punting. If we played that game over right now, we'd crush Rutgers with Levis out there. I think he had some jitters to get over as a first time starter and being a home game. By the fourth quarter, it looked like he had things figured out and made a lot of good decisions and good throws.

 

[psulongago]

And we were shorter-handed at wide receiver. Or maybe we were not shorter-handed.

Certainly wrong place to post but did you notice that Ohio State receivers never drop passes, same not so for our guys or Michigan/

 

[bdgan]

If we played that game over right now, we'd crush Rutgers with Levis out there. I think he had some jitters to get over as a first time starter and being a home game. By the fourth quarter, it looked like he had things figured out and made a lot of good decisions and good throws.

Levis had 81 yards passing. 44 of those yards came on a broken play where he fumbled the ball but it bounced right back into his hands and was able to find an open receiver. Without that play he would have had a total of 37 passing yards.

That was a very lucky play. I give credit to Levis for having enough composure to pick up the ball and make a good throw to a wide open receiver. But I wouldn't say that it looked like he had figured things out.

I agree that he had jitters just like he did vs OSU when he failed to see wide open receivers. I think he'll get better. I think the staff could have helped him build confidence with some 10 yard passes over the middle on 1st or 2nd down. Instead the staff decided to run, run, run. They must have thought they could win this game without taking chances and they were correct. Only 15 passes vs 46 runs. If I recall Levis was sacked 3 times, all on 3rd down attempts.

 

[MJG-90]

But I wouldn't say that it looked like he had figured things out.

We scored more points in the fourth quarter than in the first three combined. I was talking more about his decisions in the running game. But he made a couple other good throws too.

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

The other thing, is he's short and slow and has poor hips. Sorry, he was the weak link on the field, but we simply don't have anything to replace him with. Need to find a few experienced corners in the portal or go youth movement next year

Reid is an excellent student of the game, was a great CB for us and does seem to have lost a step since his injury. Even if he’s testing as fast, seems he’s played slower, gotten beat more, more penalties, etc. this season. Shame to see that but he has a bright future, wherever his path takes him.

I have no idea where you go the rest of what you wrote. Short? Hips? He was great! I expected him to try for the NFL before the injury. Seems a bit slower but he was very effective until that injury and he was at least decent this year.

 

[PSUSignore]

Levis had 81 yards passing. 44 of those yards came on a broken play where he fumbled the ball but it bounced right back into his hands and was able to find an open receiver. Without that play he would have had a total of 37 passing yards.

That was a very lucky play. I give credit to Levis for having enough composure to pick up the ball and make a good throw to a wide open receiver. But I wouldn't say that it looked like he had figured things out.

Lucky? Our QBs are 3 for 3 when they bounce the snap to themselves. That play was likely just the way we drew it up. /s

 

[danvillenit]

Levis had 81 yards passing. 44 of those yards came on a broken play where he fumbled the ball but it bounced right back into his hands and was able to find an open receiver. Without that play he would have had a total of 37 passing yards.

That was a very lucky play. I give credit to Levis for having enough composure to pick up the ball and make a good throw to a wide open receiver. But I wouldn't say that it looked like he had figured things out.

I agree that he had jitters just like he did vs OSU when he failed to see wide open receivers. I think he'll get better. I think the staff could have helped him build confidence with some 10 yard passes over the middle on 1st or 2nd down. Instead the staff decided to run, run, run. They must have thought they could win this game without taking chances and they were correct. Only 15 passes vs 46 runs. If I recall Levis was sacked 3 times, all on 3rd down attempts.

Levis was not good in the pass game. He did throw a 10 yard pass over the middle that was intercepted while Hamler was waving his arms on the outside. His running is nice but he’s got a ways to go if he is going to be a starter

 

[jbenedict]

Levis had 81 yards passing. 44 of those yards came on a broken play where he fumbled the ball but it bounced right back into his hands and was able to find an open receiver. Without that play he would have had a total of 37 passing yards.

That was a very lucky play. I give credit to Levis for having enough composure to pick up the ball and make a good throw to a wide open receiver. But I wouldn't say that it looked like he had figured things out.

I agree that he had jitters just like he did vs OSU when he failed to see wide open receivers. I think he'll get better. I think the staff could have helped him build confidence with some 10 yard passes over the middle on 1st or 2nd down. Instead the staff decided to run, run, run. They must have thought they could win this game without taking chances and they were correct. Only 15 passes vs 46 runs. If I recall Levis was sacked 3 times, all on 3rd down attempts.

We need a new QB period. Both of our QB's struggle to see wide open receivers. I understand that one will not always identify these receivers, but it seems as though this happens often . Is this something that is taught or innate? I would like to know from past QB's out there in McAndrews World.

 

[artsandletters]

We need a new QB period. Both of our QB's struggle to see wide open receivers. I understand that one will not always identify these receivers, but it seems as though this happens often . Is this something that is taught or innate? I would like to know from past QB's out there in McAndrews World.

“Need a new QB.”

That’s funny. Is there a QB store out there somewhere? Can a team get fitted for one ? A bespoke QB maybe?

 

[blmr31]

What a bunch crying bitch**, we've had an incredible run coming off sanctions....no losing seasons, which is unbelievable. But carry on with your entitled expectations keyboard warriors!!

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Levis had 81 yards passing. 44 of those yards came on a broken play where he fumbled the ball but it bounced right back into his hands and was able to find an open receiver. Without that play he would have had a total of 37 passing yards.

That was a very lucky play. I give credit to Levis for having enough composure to pick up the ball and make a good throw to a wide open receiver. But I wouldn't say that it looked like he had figured things out.

I agree that he had jitters just like he did vs OSU when he failed to see wide open receivers. I think he'll get better. I think the staff could have helped him build confidence with some 10 yard passes over the middle on 1st or 2nd down. Instead the staff decided to run, run, run. They must have thought they could win this game without taking chances and they were correct. Only 15 passes vs 46 runs. If I recall Levis was sacked 3 times, all on 3rd down attempts.

To be fair, Hamler should have caught the 45-50 yard pass. Sure, slightly underthrown, but that ball s/b caught 90+% of the time.

And Levis had no chance on the sacks. We never roll out and every team in the conference throw blitzes at us like crazy on 3rd down.....and of course we never throw a quick safety-valve type pass to our running backs in those situations.

 

[Chris92]

Reid's best position is nickel back covering the slot receiver. Unfortunately, with Donovan Johnson out almost all season, Reid was needed outside in our nickel package with Lamont playing inside. If Zech stayed, he would have played a ton and allowed Reid to play his best position at nickel.

 

[djr4rebs]

Reid is not slow. You say he’s slow, short and has bad hips yet he started for three years and played a lot his freshman year and was the punt returner for one season. How do you explain that?

Reid played so early in his career that I suspect the average fan assumed he'd be a first round draft pick and total shutdown corner by the time he left here.

Because of scheme, he spends most of his time watching guys come back to passes or blowing by on deep routes which leads to a hesitant catch up and our safety's never seem to come over for help.

TCF suffered from the same thing. Played early. Stood out. Never became that elite corner people expected because we beat Bama for him.

 

[Nitwit]

Liberty scored 34 on Rutgers.

PSU was certainly short handed but I think Clifford was the only one on offense. It was a good season for PSU but a weak performance on Saturday.

Cain was injured and Shorter off the team- both offensive players if not starters.

 

[cjrugger]

You may laugh at this, but I actually thought that Rutgers was a better team than their record. I'm not saying that they are even an average team, but they're weren't completely lacking some decent players.

They’re actually way worse than their record. Most games they played this year were non competitive