Reminder Coaches show tonight
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Pretty sure always available through gopsusports.com or the app available for iphones (not sure but assume there is an android version).
every week .... can be found at the same URL
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I believe the URL for the specific program changes each week. Tonight's show can be accessed at THIS LINK at 6:05 pm EST
Primanti’s ?
Somehow I doubt either Cael or Mark order a Pastrami & Cheese, double meat plus fried egg.
Somehow I doubt either Cael or Mark order a Pastrami & Cheese, double meat plus fried egg.
Looking forward to Cael's ability to answer with non-answers on 125, 141, and 197 
Looking forward to Cael's ability to answer with non-answers on 125, 141, and 197
Funny. Quite possible.
Guessing that our new addition at 125 will be acknowledged, now that it is public info.
Hopefully we will here the outcomes of wrestle offs if they've happened.
Couple of things on Kuhns from the show.
- Cael said they found out for sure he was into school this past saturday
- first practice with the team was yesterday
- he needs to be weight certified yet
- need to see where he is conditioning, weight and health wise after his injury last season
Schnupp will be the guy in the short term it sounds like. As I posted somewhere earlier, we dont need him until tO$U so i wouldnt be surprised if that was the plan.
- Cael said they found out for sure he was into school this past saturday
- first practice with the team was yesterday
- he needs to be weight certified yet
- need to see where he is conditioning, weight and health wise after his injury last season
Schnupp will be the guy in the short term it sounds like. As I posted somewhere earlier, we dont need him until tO$U so i wouldnt be surprised if that was the plan.
Cael made one quote that trumped everything else discussed.
When asked about Kuhn's timeline he said ... "I don't know, even if I did I wouldn't tell you .. you know that."
We can also add that same qualifier at the end of answers he gave on 141 and 197.
When asked about Kuhn's timeline he said ... "I don't know, even if I did I wouldn't tell you .. you know that."
We can also add that same qualifier at the end of answers he gave on 141 and 197.
If you go to WrestleStat, they have a list of the upcoming duals and open tournaments. For example this weekend there are opens at Cleveland State, Millersville and Utah Valley.
Based on everything I can deduce about this situation we have a 27 year old rent a wrestler who will be here for 3 months. Are we bringing him in so in the O$U dual we only give up 3-5 team points at 125 vs 6? Do you guys expect this guy to contribute anything in his brief time here? A lot of high fiving on this board for a guy no one has ever seen wrestle. What’s coach say when this guy gets injured again. “Hey Schnupper get back in there and do your thing”. Hope the kid and his family loves their brief stay in hippie city.
Well technically he was a top 50 kid coming out of high school.. Limited amount of history to go on due to so many injuries.. not expecting him to go AA suddenly but I think he can win some dual matches and I think he can qualify for nationals if B1G gets a pretty decent number of auto qualifiers at the weight class.. In his few wins he has had, there have been some bonus points.. not sure who they were against of course.. It isn't like we stole the kid out from another program.. his program is gone.. so he worked his whole life to wrestle at the college level , stayed fit when many get fat and then had no where to wrestle.. can't really blame him for looking around, transferring and why not try to do so to a team that will contend for a national title..
I hope he can help, and will be happy for anything he gives us. But instead of looking at it as getting a rent a wrestler, why don't you look at it as Cael giving an opportunity to a kid whose program was eliminated. Any Boise kid that finds a home I commend that program's head coach for.
Why would you commend the Boise St head coach? The NCAA gave all wrestlers a full release because the program was terminated. The coach had nothing to do with it. That assumes you were inferring that.
Edit: thanks for the clarification guys.
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I believe he was commending the coach that was giving the Boise kid a shot, ie in this situation, Cael, not the Boise coach.
He means the program that gives the kid a chance, but it was worded incorrectly
I will never understand why people think dual meets matter in the grand scheme of things. Heck, B1G titles don't matter. Cael will position the team at each weight to maximize point potential at nationals. If he decides Kuhn is that guy, he'll man 125. If not, it'll be Schnupp. The tOSU dual is irrelevant.
Well, that's a rather cold-hearted post. The young man has a family, spent a couple years on a mission in Chile, and searched out Penn State...not to mention he had to go through the rigors of getting accepted to Grad School. I guess de-humanizing these kids makes it easier to post stuff like this.
Frankly, if Carson wants to take a final stab at a dream, or at worst is a positive influence in the room but does squat on the mat, he's welcome in my book.
I will never understand why someone would say dual meets don't matter. It's a chance to compete, and here in the Big Ten, against top competition in front of huge crowds no less. When you yourself are a top talent, that should be all the motivation you need. Sure NCAAs are the big prize, but the attitude that you are somehow above competing beforehand flies in the face of what this program (and sport, quite frankly) stands for, IMHO.
Also, State College is a hippy city? Ever been to Iowa City, or Bloomington, much less Boulder or Berkeley?
Also, State College is a hippy city? Ever been to Iowa City, or Bloomington, much less Boulder or Berkeley?
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Hippy city, complete with a dairy farm on campus?
Wait, did I miss something? When did Happy Valley becomes known as Hippie City? Are we talking about Penn State or Cal Berkeley?
I feel he has a different definition of what a "hippie city" is.
'85, did you lend your id and password to Tom Ryan?
Anyone who feels dual meets don't matter in the grand scheme of things.....if you have season tix I will very graciously agree to buy your tickets for Iowa or tOSU. I would give anything to be able to go and scream my lungs out at those duals. Oh it matters....it most definitely matters.
I bet Cael wouldn't mind setting the all-time dual win streak. That would be fun for Jammenz too.
There is some excitement about Kuhn because quite frankly Schnupp is currently out manned and that has been before the gauntlet of Lizak, Suriano, Tomasello and Lee starts in 2 weeks. Schnupp has been competitive, fights, much like Carpenter last year, but facts are facts.
How much Kuhn adds, who knows? Based upon his past, he has a chance to qualify for nationals, from there anything can happen. If Kuhn gets hurt and Schnupp is back out there, well, he decided to join a D1 wrestling team. Everybody on the team would love to have the chance to compete in real matches representing PSU if they could. They all work too hard to not to want to wrestle for PSU regards of who they are competing against.
Regarding Schnupp's family, I am not sure what there is to be upset about. Cael will always look to improve the team. They needed somebody for 133 for this year and got Keener, George Carpenter rejoined the team so he must be okay with it but most likely would have loved the chance. Cael is bringing in Teske and Teasdale next year, one of them is manning 125, Kuhn just accelerated the time table a semester. Quite frankly, some of these kids join the program knowing they will in all likeliness never start a dual at PSU because there is just too much talent on the team. Of the 37 on the PSU wrestling team, most join knowing they are workout partners who will compete at Opens.
This is not rec sports.
In the grand scheme of things, duals don't matter at the end of the season. Not even a scintilla. The entire setup in collegiate wrestling is geared toward performance at nationals. Anything else is fantasy.
Having said that, you need duals to promote the sport, gain new fans, help with ranking individual wrestlers, and to condition the wrestlers. Beyond that though, dual meets do not influence who becomes the team or individual champions at the end of the season. More people will remember Logan as a four timer than that he once lost to a true freshman in a dual meet. More people will remember that PSU won the title last year than that tOSU won B1Gs.
I support duals just as much as the next guy, but I recognize them for what the really are and how some coaches have begun to use them, and that is as filler between when the wrestlers can start practicing in the fall and when nationals begin in March. I know that comes off as drastically negative to duals, but in my eyes, it's simply an admission of what is occurring. The same applies to other sports as well. A means to an end.
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probably not, but I'd bet he'd give up the dual meet streak if it meant he'd get another national title.
Ticket for tOSU are going for as high as $500. It must matter to some people.
Quite a narrow and incomplete view, imho.
Seedings at Nationals as well as admittance to wrestle at Nationals are based upon results at Duals and prior tournaments.
Top awards like the Hodge Trophy, Most Dominant and others are based upon performances at Duals and prior Tournies.
The very concept of Dual Meets is an important part of being an NCAA wrestler.
Rather than just wrestling as an individual, wrestlers are part of something bigger than themselves. They aren't on an island.
Because of Duals, where only 10 line up against 10, each individual's performances impact and are impacted by the results of others.
For example, the need for a pin for a team to win, adds extra incentive and excitement that pays off for one team or the other. Or, the need to avoid giving up bonus points in a loss can change the dynamics of a match. It adds excitement and changes the goals and the importance of the final result, win or lose.
The Team concept adds excitement to every event. It lights the fire for season-long participation by fans, whose support is critical for the sport to survive.
Duals add an important extra layer of team competition and fan support that are wonderful parts of NCAA Wrestling.
Seedings at Nationals as well as admittance to wrestle at Nationals are based upon results at Duals and prior tournaments.
Top awards like the Hodge Trophy, Most Dominant and others are based upon performances at Duals and prior Tournies.
The very concept of Dual Meets is an important part of being an NCAA wrestler.
Rather than just wrestling as an individual, wrestlers are part of something bigger than themselves. They aren't on an island.
Because of Duals, where only 10 line up against 10, each individual's performances impact and are impacted by the results of others.
For example, the need for a pin for a team to win, adds extra incentive and excitement that pays off for one team or the other. Or, the need to avoid giving up bonus points in a loss can change the dynamics of a match. It adds excitement and changes the goals and the importance of the final result, win or lose.
The Team concept adds excitement to every event. It lights the fire for season-long participation by fans, whose support is critical for the sport to survive.
Duals add an important extra layer of team competition and fan support that are wonderful parts of NCAA Wrestling.
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I'll admit, this is a pet peeve of mine, but I've long preferred collegiate athletics to professional specifically because it elevated competition for its own sake. There are obvious problems with the NCAA "model," but what it does is give fans of a Lock Haven, or Campbell a reason to pay attention. I dislike how the CFP has minimized bowl and regular season games for the vast majority of teams, and I tend to lean away from efforts to make wrestling conform to this new "all or nothing" expectation. This elevation of the championship to be "the only thing that matters" has diminished the spirit of competition as its own reward. It could be argued that Alabama had an easier road than most this year because they didn't have to win a conference championship game. Will Saban sit his starters in a late conference game with that in mind (it probably wouldn't matter, as 'Bamas backups are still pretty f'in elite)?
I'll admit, it is ironic to talk about this on this board. PSU has established an extremely high bar of late, and our recruiting is benefiting in the same manner that Saban's does, to the detriment of other quality programs. Anything less than another trophy will seem like a disappointment to us, but if I can take a breath and step back a little, I can honestly say that's just a little bit sad.
Good points. I'll add, fan support at duals is a big reason top HS wrestlers want to come to PSU. They see that duals matter.
Taking last weekend off sure has some of our fan base a little on edge. Friday night will be here soon enough......it should be a good night to have a beverage and watch wrasslin......or listen if you prefer.
A blank statement that duals don't matter is inaccurate. Of course they matter. 10,000 folks showed up in Allentown to watch PSU and Lehigh. Nearly 16,000 will be in the BJC for the PSU and Iowa match. Logie Bear is whinning because Penn State did not tell their season ticket holders they could not attend the OSU meet because some OSU fans wanted their seats.
Wade Schalles pinned a kid on the X at a home meet, not nationals. Mike Reid pinned the Lehigh heavyweight to send a Rec Hall standing room crowd into a frenzy.
Duals are competitions, and to competitors competitions matter.
Duke and Kentucky play regular season game and TV numbers are huge, arena is sold out, winner is elated and loser feels like crap.
Yankees and Red Sox play 16 regular season games and they are all sell outs and seemingly on ESPN.
The ultimate prize is the championship, but the competitions and their stories pave the path to the championships.
If you are old enough you have memories of Clyde Frantz, Jerry White, Bill Bertrand, Dave Joyner and others (but I have to run).
My list continued, Wayne Packet. Dave Webber, Bob Truby, Dave Hart, Troy Sunderland, Dan Mayo and on and on. All guys who do not have their banner picture hanging in the wrestling room, but all guys depending on your age who have created memories for Penn State wrestling fans.
Everybody know who Mark Janus is? The true Hawkeye fan certainly does.
Back. My point about listing the guys above is they each are important to Penn State Wrestling history, and there is a lot of it and it isn't all about theNCAA championships.
Duals most certainly do matter.
Wade Schalles pinned a kid on the X at a home meet, not nationals. Mike Reid pinned the Lehigh heavyweight to send a Rec Hall standing room crowd into a frenzy.
Duals are competitions, and to competitors competitions matter.
Duke and Kentucky play regular season game and TV numbers are huge, arena is sold out, winner is elated and loser feels like crap.
Yankees and Red Sox play 16 regular season games and they are all sell outs and seemingly on ESPN.
The ultimate prize is the championship, but the competitions and their stories pave the path to the championships.
If you are old enough you have memories of Clyde Frantz, Jerry White, Bill Bertrand, Dave Joyner and others (but I have to run).
My list continued, Wayne Packet. Dave Webber, Bob Truby, Dave Hart, Troy Sunderland, Dan Mayo and on and on. All guys who do not have their banner picture hanging in the wrestling room, but all guys depending on your age who have created memories for Penn State wrestling fans.
Everybody know who Mark Janus is? The true Hawkeye fan certainly does.
Back. My point about listing the guys above is they each are important to Penn State Wrestling history, and there is a lot of it and it isn't all about theNCAA championships.
Duals most certainly do matter.
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