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Rokfin 2022 projections... Oh NO Iowa!!!

One thing I did note... Kemerer was not listed at 74... so not sure if Willie knows something or just assuming the grandpa is moving on..

And if he does then indeed return.. it would actually push Iowa ahead likely based on predictions...
 
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Lots of room to move up for both teams in this actually. Biggest revelation would be Kem not coming back. Hawks make some points up with Kennedy, but Starocci then becomes a very heavy favorite imo.
 
Willie said he is just going with the vibes. There's nothing definitive with Kemerer. He is not big on social media and posted yesterday for the first time but didn't say he was coming back which is why people are speculating that he's not.

Also - like I mentioned on the Wick thread, Willie said him transferring is fake news on the 165 preview.
 
Just some other interesting things I noticed in his projections. Again, this is not definitive like other people said.

133: Micic back for Michigan (ranked 3rd) behind Bravo-Young and Fix
141: No Rivera, I thought I heard he was planning to come back
149/57: Austin O'Connor up to 157
Shayne Van Ness #5 at 149
157: Brady Berge 7th
165:Griffith, Wentzel, Lewis, O'Toole, Marinelli, Wick, Karchla, Wittlake, Valencia (11), Lee (16)
174: No Kemerer, H. Hidlay (6th), Ethan Smith (7th)
184: Amine 2nd (dropping from 197)
197: Braxton Amos (WIS FR 5th), Beard 8th behind Norfleet and Schultz
285: Steveson, Parris, Cassioppi, Schultz, Kerkvliet
 
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Just some other interesting things I noticed in his projections. Again, this is not definitive like other people said.

133: Micic back for Michigan (ranked 3rd) behind Bravo-Young and Fix
141: No Rivera, I thought I heard he was planning to come back
149/57: Austin O'Connor up to 157
Shayne Van Ness #5 at 149
157: Brady Berge 7th
165:Griffith, Wentzel, Lewis, O'Toole, Marinelli, Wick, Karchla, Wittlake, Valencia (11), Lee (16)
174: No Kemerer, H. Hidlay (6th), Ethan Smith (7th)
184: Amine 2nd (dropping from 197)
197: Braxton Amos (WIS FR 5th), Beard 8th behind Norfleet and Schultz
285: Steveson, Parris, Cassioppi, Schultz, Kerkvliet
Yanni at 149... or is that old news?
 
Lots of room to move up for both teams in this actually. Biggest revelation would be Kem not coming back. Hawks make some points up with Kennedy, but Starocci then becomes a very heavy favorite imo.
Are you saying Kennedy equals Kems point total in Detroit and gets 2nd?
 
I think some of our finishers may be higher as well.. Robbie not AA per prediction.. I think he can AA next year with a full year.. Kerk at 5... I see him top 3 next year... Couple others I could see moving up some..
Don't forget that next year 125 will have Arujau and Glory back. Two more guys to get past.
 
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Are you saying Kennedy equals Kems point total in Detroit and gets 2nd?
No I said he makes up some of the points. We didn't get to see much of him this year, but I think optimistically he could be a mid to low AA with a possibility to challenge for a title, but no expectation. I don't expect him to replicate Kem's finish or bonus from last year.
 
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Willie said he is just going with the vibes. There's nothing definitive with Kemerer. He is not big on social media and posted yesterday for the first time but didn't say he was coming back which is why people are speculating that he's not.

Also - like I mentioned on the Wick thread, Willie said him transferring is fake news on the 165 preview.
One thing to keep in mind is that Willie shared an NCAA suite with some people connected with the Iowa program.
 
One thing to keep in mind is that Willie shared an NCAA suite with some people connected with the Iowa program.

Did not know that - thanks for sharing. Either way, cupboard wouldn't be bare behind Kemerer.
 
No I’m serious, he’s going to have to get surgery at some point.

The only way I can see that happening is if he makes the Olympic team and has to delay surgery for like August. Otherwise, he can probably be back by January (granted I'm not ACL expert) Spencer is not missing 2022 NCAAs.
 
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One thing to keep in mind is that Willie shared an NCAA suite with some people connected with the Iowa program.
Iowa does a very good job of schmoozing and does a real nice job of bringing light to their program.

Psu on the other hand let's the lights show the program.
 
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The only way I can see that happening is if he makes the Olympic team and has to delay surgery for like August. Otherwise, he can probably be back by January (granted I'm not ACL expert) Spencer is not missing 2022 NCAAs.
If he has surgery he could take his RS.

Also the kid may need a break to recharge the battery after this year.

But I agree if it's about another team title he has this next year and then not again until the 30s........
 
The only way I can see that happening is if he makes the Olympic team and has to delay surgery for like August. Otherwise, he can probably be back by January (granted I'm not ACL expert) Spencer is not missing 2022 NCAAs.
Agreed. Also it's not his first rodeo with knee surgery or with college wrestling, he knows what to expect.
 
Only if he shirts to recover from his injury -- and it's way too early to proclaim that.

Beyond that ... the idea that Spencer Lee would pass up an opportunity to become a 4x NCAA champ is laughable. Despite what some people here have been pushing in the past week.
I thought I had read him saying he is coming back.
 
It's not bare but I don't see a final for Kennedy like Kem did

Yeah it's too early to tell, that kid is for sure talented though. Kemerer was feasibly good enough to bonus his first 3 opponents at nationals (and nearly his 4th) as well.
 
One thing I did note... Kemerer was not listed at 74... so not sure if Willie knows something or just assuming the grandpa is moving on..

And if he does then indeed return.. it would actually push Iowa ahead likely based on predictions...
Kennedy was picked to AA so switching in Kemmerer would a plus 10? for Iowa. Joe Lee also ranked and Berge picked to AA, lots of room to move up or down on those predictions
 
Again I can see kennedy as a 4 to 8th place but I don't see kems points. Probably 5 to 10 points less....not a big loss but a small net loss in points.
 
No I’m serious, he’s going to have to get surgery at some point.
He has to make the decision soon. He has his health to consider and Olympic trials to think about. Real question is Does he make a go at the trials/Olympics then surgery afterward? If that route then hes out for next NCAA season. He would get a med redshirt if he wanted to come back the year after. Or does he forego the trials and gets the surgery so hes ready for next season?
 
Only if he shirts to recover from his injury -- and it's way too early to proclaim that.
Yianni came back after ACL surgery following the NCAAs, without losing any time the next season (although he was hampered by one of those Iowa leg brace things for a while).
 
Only if he shirts to recover from his injury -- and it's way too early to proclaim that.

Beyond that ... the idea that Spencer Lee would pass up an opportunity to become a 4x NCAA champ is laughable. Despite what some people here have been pushing in the past week.
It seems like he's passed up a number of opportunities to prioritize FS over Folk and has chosen Folk each time. And the nearer we get to a possible fourth title, the less it makes sense that he'd suddenly choose to prioritize FS.
 
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Listen to yesterday's Flo podcast. Outstanding segment on ACL injuries and wrestling. Pretty convincing surgery is not needed.

Well, Dr. Flo tried to give Willie a lobotomy.

Nobody knows what medical attention Spencer needs. Certainly nobody on any message board. Whatever the path, Spencer's doctor will figure that out.
 
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No I said he makes up some of the points. We didn't get to see much of him this year, but I think optimistically he could be a mid to low AA with a possibility to challenge for a title, but no expectation. I don't expect him to replicate Kem's finish or bonus from last year.
First match of the year he wrestled Labriola tough enough I caught myself thinking that after a year in Iowa's room he's going to beat Labriola.
 
First match of the year he wrestled Labriola tough enough I caught myself thinking that after a year in Iowa's room he's going to beat Labriola.
Already looking forward to the Starocci match. Kennedy always throws everything he has at you. Should be entertainging.
 
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Willie is super high on Dustin Plott. Had him 3rd. I'd buy it also, kid certainly is talented if his shoulder is 100% recovered.
 
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