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Rules and Bones are made to be broken

dunkej01

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In the article they quoted a price of $200 per month. Is that about the going rate these days?
 
Iowa should change its colors from Black and gold to just grey....as they seem to want to operate there

What rule is being broken? Private youth clubs have used Carver Hawkeye for practice for a long time. I used to attend practices there 20 years ago.
 
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What rule is being broken? Private youth clubs have used Carver Hawkeye for practice for a long time. I used to attend practices there 20 years ago.
Did the college kids roll w you?

You read the complaints from socon schools about the unfairness of RTCs w high school kids?

No rules are broken and I didn't type there was.
 
I thought the thread would be about PD3 or AJ
 
Great opportunity for young kids to begin over training and accumulating joint problems before they get to Iowa to really finish the deal. If it isn't working do it harder and more frequently and mix in bashing your head on a brick wall. Hard pass.
 
Great opportunity for young kids to begin over training and accumulating joint problems before they get to Iowa to really finish the deal. If it isn't working do it harder and more frequently and mix in bashing your head on a brick wall. Hard pass.
A common criticism of Sebolt
 
One of YGs, if not the original PA location, was in the UPJ wrestling room. I never saw this as working in a grey area.
your right about UPJ and I dont think it would ever be an issue for UPJ to do that hosting. Then or now.

But would fans of other teams have an issue with M2 training at Lorenzo? Would it be an issue for other schools if the PSU RTC/Alums are rolling with M2 kids at Lorenzo?

Maybe not. But clearly other teams do that is why those schools are trying so hard to end the current RTC practices and as we have seen the NCAA is at least listening to them. Why? I guess they dont have much else to work on. But they are listening and its been posted about here and a topic in wrestling media.

So the thread is an obvious dig at Iowa (as are most things to generate traffic), its real intention is a shout out to the community, that these are the things that are pissing off the smaller schools.

 
your right about UPJ and I dont think it would ever be an issue for UPJ to do that hosting. Then or now.

But would fans of other teams have an issue with M2 training at Lorenzo? Would it be an issue for other schools if the PSU RTC/Alums are rolling with M2 kids at Lorenzo?

Maybe not. But clearly other teams do that is why those schools are trying so hard to end the current RTC practices and as we have seen the NCAA is at least listening to them. Why? I guess they dont have much else to work on. But they are listening and its been posted about here and a topic in wrestling media.

So the thread is an obvious dig at Iowa (as are most things to generate traffic), its real intention is a shout out to the community, that these are the things that are pissing off the smaller schools.

I see where you are coming from. If things keep going the direction they currently are, the small schools could rally and force changes to RTCs. This would not be good for wrestling in the larger picture.
 
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Couldn’t this be an area where smaller schools could connect with the wrestling community and make recruiting connections? This seems the opposite of RTCs. The school would need little to no financial obligation beyond opening its doors. They could even use it to raise money, by renting out the wrestling room to youth clubs.
 
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Couldn’t this be an area where smaller schools could connect with the wrestling community and make recruiting connections? This seems the opposite of RTCs. The school would need little to no financial obligation beyond opening its doors. They could even use it to raise money, by renting out the wrestling room to youth clubs.
This already happens at many smaller programs. They've clubs that run out of the room. Youth practices at night a few days a week. And the college athletes attend and help
 
This already happens at many smaller programs. They've clubs that run out of the room. Youth practices at night a few days a week. And the college athletes attend and help
True, though talent distribution becomes a complication outside of the big wrestling states. For example, Rhode Island doesn't produce a lot of D1 talent -- so it doesn't help Brown much.

Even within the big wrestling states, the setup is of limited benefit to some schools. Some for institutional and demographic reasons (Bucknell), others for incompetence (Pitt before Gavin).

Still worth doing, but something that helps the power programs a lot more than it helps the smaller programs.
 
True, though talent distribution becomes a complication outside of the big wrestling states. For example, Rhode Island doesn't produce a lot of D1 talent -- so it doesn't help Brown much.

Even within the big wrestling states, the setup is of limited benefit to some schools. Some for institutional and demographic reasons (Bucknell), others for incompetence (Pitt before Gavin).

Still worth doing, but something that helps the power programs a lot more than it helps the smaller programs.
Fans only have a problem with it when the good teams do it. Once your a threat then it becomes a issue with fan bases.
 
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Did the college kids roll w you?

You read the complaints from socon schools about the unfairness of RTCs w high school kids?

No rules are broken and I didn't type there was.
No college kids rolled. Occasionally they were brought in as paid instructors. But when they were it was typically off campus at a local high school.

Silly me for thinking the title saying rules are meant to be broken was implying that rules were being broke .
 
No college kids rolled. Occasionally they were brought in as paid instructors. But when they were it was typically off campus at a local high school.

Silly me for thinking the title saying rules are meant to be broken was implying that rules were being broke .
We’re just on a hair trigger here because the Larry Lee hijinks have us on edge
 
Are we taking turns keeping eyes on Lar...thought of a name for the PSU girl wrestlers. The MissKittys-(gunsmoke)
We’ve got a rotating crew of spotters on him. He’s real good at throwing tails. He’s been seen several times lurking around physical therapy offices - offering his advice in the waiting room to the parents of young wrestlers rehabbing knees and such.
 
Since the “student athletes” are now actually professional athletes, it might be time to keep the small programs in the picture by implementing a luxury tax ala MLB. The small schools have the choice of using their subsidies to:
(A) buy better athletes,
(B) fund a RTC,
(C) pad something else, or
(D) some combination of the above.

What gets taken off the table is having a legitimate complaint that RTC’s are creating an unlevel playing field.
 
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We’ve got a rotating crew of spotters on him. He’s real good at throwing tails. He’s been seen several times lurking around physical therapy offices - offering his advice in the waiting room to the parents of young wrestlers rehabbing knees and such.
I blew it on my shift. He made me. I was reading HR and laughing. He looked and saw my THAT’S WHAT WE DO shirt. Demanded to know who put me on him, but I didn’t rat you out. Now he’s calling me every ten minutes to say he wasn’t doing anything and he doesn’t want to send the “Associates”, but he will
 
so drake gets to see more sebolt wrestling he should be happy that means less Penn State wrestling!LOL
 
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