Rumor: Home duals to be held at BJC beginning 2025-26
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I was at a Billy Joel concert and paid $26 each for two shot mixed drinks. PSU duals are events. For those who like to imbibe at events, you'll pay the price to enjoy your time. Again, it's leaving revenue on the table if you don't. The lines were long at those prices. Crazy.
You can admit it was two white claws. Safe space here.
I thought White Claw was some secret code on this board but I was somewhere and actually saw White Claw being sold. I didn't touch it mind you. I didn't want to get an infection or something. I stick to 10+% beer.
That is what I would prefer, but I heard olympic sports not wrestling specific. Women’s volleyball would use it also.
"Fair"?
Unfortunately the universe is not fair, on nearly any level. Our world does operate on some very basic principles however, with one being basic economics, and the classic supply, demand and price curves.
Demand for PSU tickets outpaces the supply. In one sense moving to the BJC in time may result in some lower prices as supply has been increased. The opportunity for more tiered pricing is enhanced. Then again the lower priced tickets will most likely align with poorer locations and viewing experience. Thus once again satisfying the correlation between demand and price.
I haven't seen any economic formuli that relate to loyalty.
As a Steeler fan who's family had season tickets in the 70s I don't feel it's very fair today either. As a young kid I stood on my chair and saw the immaculate reception with my dad. The last time the Steelers played here out west vs the Raiders I looked into to getting tickets for my family. Upon discovering litterally the worst, seats in the stadium were going to cost me $1500 for those 5 seats, not to mention the drive, parking, food, and the risk of death to anyone who wears the opposition's colors to a Raider game, I decided to stay home and watch in HD and BBQ some ribs. I am pretty happy with the value of that decision, granted it didn't feel very fair at the time.
Where does the money come from? PSU Athletics is in significant debt with the current phase of Beaver Stadium upgrades, and then there's the new $20M/year in revenue sharing.
A new building with training facilities, maybe I can be convinced. But a new arena with presumably less capacity than BJC? That doesn't make sense as long as Rec Hall is still viable.
Any money raised for a new arena that doesn't replace BJC, is an opportunity cost against the other known financial issues.
Just take away the whole BJC thing, and just focus on the $50 fee. If PSU Wrestling started that fee in Rec Hall and said it would go toward scholarships to keep the dynasty going in this new environment, is there anyone who can't or wouldn't pay the fee? To me, $50 is a very small price to pay to see my favorite team win every year.
I'd pay that without blinking for PSU Wrestling
The interesting piece in all of this will be how schools adjust to partial scholarships being available for all sports, including football. The roster limits don't require full scholarships, or scholarships at all. But schools can also give partial scholarships based on expected contribution, so if you are a starter, you get a full scholarship, but maybe backups only get 1/2 and the other guys in the room get even less. It'll also be interesting to see which (mens) sports get cut to maintain title IX compliance.
All the more reason for fans of non-revenue sports to financially support their team. Do I need another $50 PSU sweatshirt, or is there a better gift for Christmas.
I may be making this up (old age) but I could swear that I remember a discussion that more $ is actually made by the matches at Rec Hall than the ones at BJC since Rec Hall is university-owned by BJC is university-leased. But, I suppose if fans are going to have to donate $ to NLC in addition to paying higher prices for season and general tickets to matches at BJC, then there is definitely a higher ceiling for revenue generation.
BBall rents the BJC… wrestling would too. A new facility would be interesting and like the open lot in front of the turf fields at the traffic light on North Atherton. That would be as good a spot for one unless they are wanting to move all sports over to the Stadium Complex which would make sense, too.
Is this true?
BJC was built only because B10 required a new basketball arena for conference entry. Harrisburg coughed up money for a year-round entertainment venue. The agreement was: it would be owned by PSU but not Athletics; Men's and Women's Hoops got free use because of the B10 entry requirement; all other PSU teams had to pay rent.
Did something change recently? If only we had reporters around to confirm.
Also, we did the math about 10 years ago: at the time, Wrestling needed to have at least 11.5k paid attendance to break even. The math is different now -- ticket prices, facility rental, etc. -- so not sure what the break-even attendance figure is today. But it's likely more than Rec Hall capacity.
If that rental rule has recently changed, then that opens up BJC as a risk-free season-long revenue source, as opposed to a money maker for the Iowas and a risk for the lower-level teams.
EDIT to clarify: "break even" did not mean under 11.5k attendance at BJC would be a financial loss. It meant a Rec Hall sell-out would still be more profitable.
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There is literally 0 reason for new facilities at this point especially with team rosters getting cut to 30. Renovations are good but absolutely no need to build standalone ones when we're looking to add 20.1 scholarships a year and in the age of NIL. The ROI on facilities are almost nonexistent. The inevitable 30M price of facilities can literally endow all those scholarships.
DT even said he prefers if Oklahoma State doesn't spend money there.
DT even said he prefers if Oklahoma State doesn't spend money there.
If the waiting list is really 7000 deep, as was said earlier in this thread, there won't be any curtains.
Let me put this another way. The wrestling team isn't moving to the Jordan center to put up curtains.
Not fair like that I'm no snowflake!
Fair is fair in love and war, kinda of fair.
I thought I cleared that up with my other post, guess not. I will try better next time.
Maybe put curtains in front of the Ohio State section, so Ryan can beef about the seats.
