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Saquon Barkley, college football's most outstanding player, deserves Heisman Trophy
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Could not agree more with this article. It is the entire body of work, not the game or two where the ENTIRE game plan was to stop you. That, in itself, is a complement and should also be taken into consideration by the "expert" Heisman voters.....but it won't be.
IMHO, He is by FAR the best player in college football, but the best player does not always win the Heisman. I don't intend to throw any shade on Baker Mayfield in expressing my agreement that Saquon should win the Heisman, but if Saquon does not, it does not detract a bit from what he has done. His worth will almost surely be reflected in his draft position, which should be no worse than No. 3 overall. A few teams need QB's, so there is a decent chance that Darnold, Rosen, or both go ahead of Saquon. Can't wait to watch him in the pros, getting PAID..
IMO Barkley and LJ aren't even close. Every D had one plan and one plan only. Stop Barkley. When he could run it, we threw two him and he scored, when we couldn't pass to him, we let him pass and he scored, when all those options weren't there he took KOs for TDs. Barkley was an all around unstoppable individual. LJ was a RB. A dam good one though.
Right. The Barry Sanders belief. Every time he touches the ball you believe he can score
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No question he’s the most outstanding player, at least in my mind. I’d pick him if I had a vote. And it’s disappointing that we’re wondering whether he’ll even get a seat at the ceremony. Who knows, maybe we’re all wrong and he’ll win it. I hope he does.
But there’s a subtle and probably unintended message about our offense and the capability of the other 10 guys on O (QB? WRs? Was the line seriously a screen door? And what about the coaches?) that I think many could be more careful with when praising Saquon. Four great defenses gave to stop him, but they didn’t entirely sell out to stop him.
The only time I’d agree he was clearly the entire gameplan was on kickoffs, as in Columbus. There, it’s was KEEP THE BALL AWAY FROM THAT GUY!
(And in the first, it was “are you f-ing serious? You kicked it to that guy?!?!?” Meyer went nuts!). On our last possession down by 1 we got the ball @ the 40 because they’d rather risk that than put the ball in saquon’s hands. And with their roster? Sheesh. That and saquon’s KO runback should earn him at least a seat at the ceremony!
Sorry for the rant but this Saquon was the entire focus-thing comes too close to making the others look inept.
Doesn’t change that hes MUCH more of a rarity than the other current candidates. Kid’s amazing!
But there’s a subtle and probably unintended message about our offense and the capability of the other 10 guys on O (QB? WRs? Was the line seriously a screen door? And what about the coaches?) that I think many could be more careful with when praising Saquon. Four great defenses gave to stop him, but they didn’t entirely sell out to stop him.
The only time I’d agree he was clearly the entire gameplan was on kickoffs, as in Columbus. There, it’s was KEEP THE BALL AWAY FROM THAT GUY!
(And in the first, it was “are you f-ing serious? You kicked it to that guy?!?!?” Meyer went nuts!). On our last possession down by 1 we got the ball @ the 40 because they’d rather risk that than put the ball in saquon’s hands. And with their roster? Sheesh. That and saquon’s KO runback should earn him at least a seat at the ceremony!
Sorry for the rant but this Saquon was the entire focus-thing comes too close to making the others look inept.
Doesn’t change that hes MUCH more of a rarity than the other current candidates. Kid’s amazing!
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Not to mention his blocking............geez the NFL loves this guy. The Bronco gasbags out here are talking him up. I hope he doesn't end up in Denver with that new dumster fire...a team sans an O line or quarterback
Barkley is a great player but there is no way that a RB gets the Heisman when he isn't even ranked in the top 30 in rushing in the country. If you look at his all purpose yards he is ranked number 2 but that doesn't include any passing stats.
Lamar Jackson who has been dismissed this year has 1443 yards rushing and 17 rushing TD's plus another 3489 passing with 25 passing TD's.
With those kind of stats it is easy to see how this has become a QB award.
Lamar Jackson who has been dismissed this year has 1443 yards rushing and 17 rushing TD's plus another 3489 passing with 25 passing TD's.
With those kind of stats it is easy to see how this has become a QB award.
Collins hurt him that year. Both had a good argument to win. KiJana and Collins were definitely worthy
Barkley won't win but anyone who has watched the guy and isn't a liar will tell you that he's the best player in CFB.
And the sick thing is that KiJana (2nd) would not have won even if he got all of the Collins (4th) vote.
Rashan 298 carries were 100 (50% more) more carries than KiJana to get to 2000 yards (compared to KJ’s nearly 1600) and 1 more TD.
Barkley does NOT deserve to win the Heisman but through no fault of his own. Franklin cost him it. I don't care what anyone says!
He (Franklin) had a player who is incomparable at the collegiate level but made him a secondary figure in our offense. He made Barkley literally none existant against MSU and was a little too late against OSU. Games the entire college football nation was watching.
Franklin had a once-in-a-lifetime chance to help the best overall and most explosive player, IMO, not only at Penn State but all of college football win the Heisman and HE DROPPED THE BALL.
We will never see another player like Barkley again. He was the "Lavar Arrington" (FREAK) of our time and it pisses me off!
He should of won it!!!!
He (Franklin) had a player who is incomparable at the collegiate level but made him a secondary figure in our offense. He made Barkley literally none existant against MSU and was a little too late against OSU. Games the entire college football nation was watching.
Franklin had a once-in-a-lifetime chance to help the best overall and most explosive player, IMO, not only at Penn State but all of college football win the Heisman and HE DROPPED THE BALL.
We will never see another player like Barkley again. He was the "Lavar Arrington" (FREAK) of our time and it pisses me off!
He should of won it!!!!
No he didn't....KiJana could have got all of Collins votes and still not win. It was the hype train for Salaam that won it.
It was those bastions of objectivity people rave about -- Herbstreit, Corso, and Co -- that cost Ki-Jana the Heisman in 1994. All those idiots ever talked about was how "every RB who gained 2,000 yards has won the Heisman." No mention of number of carries or the numerous times Carter sat out the entire 4th quarters because the HC didn't want to "embarrass" the opponent with a rout.
Now that "2,000 yard" mantra was dropped in 2002 when a Penn State RB achieved it. You know, like the way "winning a conference championship means everything" changed when it was Penn State that won it.
I'm not talking votes. It's hard, though not impossible, to win when there's two elite players on the same offense. KiJana should have won IMO but 2k still mattered back then
I also remember a discussion going into the bowl games in 94 about whether Penn State should jump Nebraska if they were impressive in their bowl game and Nebraska wasn't. That was met with a resounding no, a number one team that wins should never get jumped. Fast forward three years later when UM was #1 and Nebraska was #2....same question completely opposite answer by the same talking heads that said no three years earlier. That and the KiJana/LJ discussions solidified in my mind that there has always been an anti-PSU slant with all these clowns. Nothing since then has changed my mind.
It's hard (and yes, pretty much impossible) to win if you have PSU on your jersey. Just ask LJ.
Which other blue blood program only has one Heisman winner? Which other blue blood program has as many undefeated seasons without a NC? I'll save you the googling, the answer is zero. If you don't see an anti-PSU bias over the years, you're looking the other way.
Those early undefeated seasons were because of many reasons including political as you know. The 94 season was about Tommy Osbourne finally getting a title. I think Penn St > Nebraska but sadly they never played * playoff anyone* It was the system. Joe wasn't hated then. KiJana and LJ are the only two arguments for the Heisman. KiJana losing makes sense even if I disagree with it. Saquon is amazing but doesn't have the numbers. Everyone isn't out to get us...aside from our own BOT at one point
So you can explain away the trees but not the whole forest. Why do all these explanations focus on explaining why PSU or one of its players got screwed? The other blue bloods don't need to explain away all the times they got short changed....that's the point.
KiJana spent a lot of time on the sidelines once Paterno took his foot off the gas. He could have easily surpassed the 2k number if he had been allowed to stay in and amass meaningless yards (i.e. the Wisconsin approach w/ Ron Dayne).
You're absolutely right. That may have cost us a title as well...as stupid as that is.
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