Seriously, how can't creating an intentionally fraudulent Presentment for the purpose of...

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

....generating illegitimate Indictments not be an eligible PCRA item in Pennsylvania? Any of you lawyers out there who are supposed to be in love with both the PA and US Constitutions care to explain to me how the production of an intentionally fraudulent SWIGJ Presentment (the only thing allowing the production of Indictments) is not relevant subject-matter to a PCRA in Pennsylvania? What a phucking disgrace this Country has become and most intelligent people understand what profession is responsible for taking us down the "road to ruin" via the acceptance, if not the outright promotion, of unrighteous, immoral and disgraceful pragmatic and self-serving behavior

 

[NC2017]

What a phucking disgrace this Country has become and most intelligent people understand what profession is responsible for taking us down the "road to ruin" via the acceptance, if not the outright promotion, of unrighteous, immoral and disgraceful pragmatic and self-serving behavior

Release the Tomahawks.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Crickets.....go figure.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Still crickets from the lawyers as to how this is possible given "Constitutionally Guaranteed Protections".....go figure.

 

[mn78psu83]

Ius est ars boni et aequi!

Mr. Bumble disagrees though. "The law is a ass, a idiot."

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Ius est ars boni et aequi!

Mr. Bumble disagrees though. "The law is a ass, a idiot."

Here is the reference from Legal Dictionary:

Jus est ars boni et aequi

Law is the science of what is good and evil. Dig. 1, 1, 1, l.​

Although I believe the literal Latin translation is actually: "The law is the art of goodness and equity.". However, this maxim is relative to the PRACTITIONER and their respect of the spirit of "the law" as Christ made clear to the High Priests and Pharisees in regards to the Jewish Law (i.e., "The Covenant"...."The Ten Commandments"). He called them what they were - hypocrites and arrogant scumbags.

 

[mn78psu83]

Here is the reference from Legal Dictionary:

Jus est ars boni et aequi

Law is the science of what is good and evil. Dig. 1, 1, 1, l.​

Although I believe the literal Latin translation is actually: "The law is the art of goodness and equity.". However, this maxim is relative to the PRACTITIONER and their respect of the spirit of "the law" as Christ made clear to the High Priests and Pharisees in regards to the Jewish Law (i.e., "The Covenant"...."The Ten Commandments"). He called them what they were - hypocrites and arrogant scumbags.

They've given a bad translation. It is, "Law is the art of the good and the just." Aequi, gen., neuter, sing. (aequus, - a, -um) - even, just, calm, equal, etc...

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Ius est ars boni et aequi!

Mr. Bumble disagrees though. "The law is a ass, a idiot."

By the way, you didn't have to reach that far....you could have just used the quotes of Pennsylvania's latest newly minted lawyer-turned-politician AG, Josh Shapiro:

Josh Shapiro says "no one is above the law"​

Sadly, never has ROTGLMFAO been such an apropos acronym.....

 

[mn78psu83]

By the way, you didn't have to reach that far....you could have just used the quotes of Pennsylvania's latest newly minted lawyer-turned-politician AG, Josh Shapiro:

Josh Shapiro says "no one is above the law"​

Sadly, never has ROTGLMFAO been such an apropos acronym.....

No one should be. Our Commonwealth is a farce.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Still no answers.....shocking!

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Still nothing but......

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

...

 

[mn78psu83]

..

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

....generating illegitimate Indictments not be an eligible PCRA item in Pennsylvania? Any of you lawyers out there who are supposed to be in love with both the PA and US Constitutions care to explain to me how the production of an intentionally fraudulent SWIGJ Presentment (the only thing allowing the production of Indictments) is not relevant subject-matter to a PCRA in Pennsylvania? What a phucking disgrace this Country has become and most intelligent people understand what profession is responsible for taking us down the "road to ruin" via the acceptance, if not the outright promotion, of unrighteous, immoral and disgraceful pragmatic and self-serving behavior

It's Pennsylvania.

 

[coveydidnt]

no offense, but exactly how was the GJP legally fraudulent and not just an assertion that failed to be substantiated in court.

The latter happens all the time in all 50 states in every county in the US. If every indichtment that was unsubstantiated were illegal & fraud we'd basically have no justice system at all.

 

[Locolion]

Still no answers.....shocking!

Answers from whom? Aren't you being rhetorical?

 

[marshall23]

Political prosecutions by the OAG under Corbett were SOP. He especially relished going after potential rivals for the office of governor. In totalitarian states it is practice to eliminate political opposition thru these methods. Citizens tend to turn a deaf ear to what they deem "politics." Sadly, I think we have developed a tolerance for scum of the earth, running for and holding public office.
The intentionally false and inflammatory presentment in the Sandusky case was a basic and time honored technique of the Corbett OAG playbook. Eshbach revealed the intent when she cautioned McQueary not to correct its lies. She was concerned it would hurt the case. How? By damaging its intent of tainting public opinion and the potential jury pool. Surveys have demonstrated that people questioned wanted PSU administrators punished even if they had not broken any laws. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Ring Master Corbett thought that PA. would remain his circus to manipulate. He found toadies like Surma and Frazier on the BOT and mixed in a few of his own plumbers in Tomalis and Freeh.
Tommy Boy like Karen "with flies on her" Peetz, was certain that the furor over this charade would fade. It cost him his job and all his political aspirations.
Now we should question.....who had a hand in the crafting of the presentment? We know from testimony that Jonelle Eshbah protected it from being corrected. She is running for public office? Lies and political prosecutions have continued under new AG Josh Shapiro. His willingness to taunt PSU faithful by using Jack Raykovitz as a witness, his victory lap and the shameful histrionics of Hurricane Ditka, should not be forgotten when it comes time to end his political career.

 

[coveydidnt]

The intentionally false and inflammatory presentment in the Sandusky case was a basic and time honored technique of the Corbett OAG playbook.

I'm sure you can list dozens of intentionally false and inflammatory presentments by the Corbett OAG. This is the kind of ridiculous crap that proves the tinfoil crowd is crazy.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I'm sure you can list dozens of intentionally false and inflammatory presentments by the Corbett OAG. This is the kind of ridiculous crap that proves the tinfoil crowd is crazy.

Really? Why did none other than Mike McQueary, the State's supposed "star eyewitness", send a written e-mail to the OAG immediately following the release of the Presentment and Indictments stating precisely this? Why did Mike McQueary testify to the 30th SWIGJ (as confirmed by a 30th SWIGJ Grand Juror) that he DID NOT see or eyewitness what the State claimed he would testify to as an "eyewitness" (i.e., direct evidence) in their Presentment and Indictments - IN FACT, the State had NO EYEWITNESS to their claims in the Presentment and Indictments despite repeatedly claiming they did in the Presentment and accompanying Indictments. Their repeated claims of having an "eyewitness" (direct evidence - not circumstantial evidence) is a PROVABLY FALSE CLAIM - i.e., A LIE - relative to both Mike McQueary's actual Grand Jury Testimony made to the 30th SWIGJ Grand Jurors, not the 33rd SWIGJ Grand Jurors, and Mike McQueary's subsequent sworn testimony in multiple trial court settings!

The State NEVER had an "eyewitness" to a topic they dedicated 80% of their Presentment to despite claiming repeatedly in the Presentment they had an "eyewitness" to the claims. "Eyewitnesses" are considered "Direct Evidence" under the law, while non-eyewitness testimony requiring conjecture and assumption to draw conclusions is considered "circumstantial evidence" under the law. The Presentment was the only thing that enabled the Indictments (no indictments without a SWIGJ Presentment) and the claims of the Presentment are provable lies contrary to your absurd claim to the contrary!

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I'm sure you can list dozens of intentionally false and inflammatory presentments by the Corbett OAG. This is the kind of ridiculous crap that proves the tinfoil crowd is crazy.

The other thing that very clearly proves the intentionally fraudulent lies of the 33rd SWIGJ Presentment is THE FACT, that the 30th SWIGJ was ADJOURNED without producing a Presentment or any recommendations for Indictments!!! Prior to the adjournment of a sitting SWIGJ, prosecutors attempt to get a Presentment because if the SWIGJ does not produce a Presentment, no Indictments can be produced. Mike McQueary did not testify to the 30th SWIGJ in the manner claimed by the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" - we know this from Mike McQueary's e-mail, the confirmation that McQueary testified to the diametric opposite (i.e., did not see or eyewitness the OAG's claims) from a 30th SWIGJ Grand Juror AND from Mike McQueary's subsequent "at-trial" sworn testimony which blew up the OAG's Presentment/Indictment claims of Mike McQueary being an "eyewitness" to what they stated....BUT NOT ONLY do we know it was fraudulent based on this provable information, but we ALSO KNOW FOR CERTAIN that the 30th SWIGJ did not produce a Presentment and a recommendation for Indictments before being adjourned and this would NOT BE POSSIBLE had Mike McQueary told them what the State claims he told them that he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" (again, which we know is false and a lie based on the record) because the 30th SWIGJ would have unquestionably produced a Presentment and Indictments based on such Eyewitness, Direct Evidence Testimony and yet it FACTUALLY did not do so finding testimony before it, including Mike McQueary's testimony, INSUFFICIENT to generate a Presentment and recommendation for Indictments prior to being adjourned!!!

Again, simply not possible had Mike McQueary testified to the 30th SWIGJ Grand Jurors in the manner the OAG claims in the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment"!!! (again, this is not how Mike McQueary testified to the 30th SWIGJ by his own admission and further CONFIRMED by a 30th SWIGJ Grand Juror who has spoken publicly on the topic).

 

[vesialgia]

Remember this was a Corbett led attack on PSU's Spanier with collateral damage to Curley, Schultz, Paterno and most of PSU's reputation. Don't forget the 200 million lost to attorney fees, lawsuit settlements, etc. Could have provided a lot scholarships.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

The other thing that very clearly proves the intentionally fraudulent lies of the 33rd SWIGJ Presentment is THE FACT, that the 30th SWIGJ was ADJOURNED without producing a Presentment or any recommendations for Indictments!!! Prior to the adjournment of a sitting SWIGJ, prosecutors attempt to get a Presentment because if the SWIGJ does not produce a Presentment, no Indictments can be produced. Mike McQueary did not testify to the 30th SWIGJ in the manner claimed by the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" - we know this from Mike McQueary's e-mail, the confirmation that McQueary testified to the diametric opposite (i.e., did not see or eyewitness the OAG's claims) from a 30th SWIGJ Grand Juror AND from Mike McQueary's subsequent "at-trial" sworn testimony which blew up the OAG's Presentment/Indictment claims of Mike McQueary being an "eyewitness" to what they stated....BUT NOT ONLY do we know it was fraudulent based on this provable information, but we ALSO KNOW FOR CERTAIN that the 30th SWIGJ did not produce a Presentment and a recommendation for Indictments before being adjourned and this would NOT BE POSSIBLE had Mike McQueary told them what the State claims he told them that he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" (again, which we know is false and a lie based on the record) because the 30th SWIGJ would have unquestionably produced a Presentment and Indictments based on such Eyewitness, Direct Evidence Testimony and yet it FACTUALLY did not do so finding testimony before it, including Mike McQueary's testimony, INSUFFICIENT to generate a Presentment and recommendation for Indictments prior to being adjourned!!!

Again, simply not possible had Mike McQueary testified to the 30th SWIGJ Grand Jurors in the manner the OAG claims in the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment"!!! (again, this is not how Mike McQueary testified to the 30th SWIGJ by his own admission and further CONFIRMED by a 30th SWIGJ Grand Juror who has spoken publicly on the topic).

By-the-by, under the PA SWIGJ Statute a vote is taken before adjournment of the SWIGJ as to whether a Presentment and recommendation for Indictments should be produced -- a Presentment is produced if a SIMPLE MAJORITY of the Grand Jurors vote in favor of producing a Presentment and recommendation of Indictments. The 30th SWIGJ, the one Mike McQueary testified to, did not have sufficient support to even produce a Presentment, a necessary first step before Indictments can be produced. IOW, the FACT that the 30th SWIGJ produced no Presentment is demonstrative proof of the intentional misrepresentations - i.e., LIES - that the PA OAG told in the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment - Statement of Fact" in support of the illegitimate Indictments tied to it. "The Record", including Mike McQueary's e-mail to the OAG on the topic also demonstrates beyond any doubt that the OAG intentionally DIAMETRICALLY misrepresented Mike McQueary's testimony to the 30th SWIGJ in the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" it ultimately produced for the purpose of generating the illegitimate Indictments and Malicious Prosecutions it begot. How this wanton trampling of multiple individuals supposedly Constitutionally-Guaranteed and Federally-Protected civil rights and outright tyranny is permitted in Pennsylvania is rather startling and downright scary.

 

[mn78psu83]

Any attorneys out there who'd like to venture into the no holds barred verbal arena?

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

no offense, but exactly how was the GJP legally fraudulent and not just an assertion that failed to be substantiated in court.

The latter happens all the time in all 50 states in every county in the US. If every indichtment that was unsubstantiated were illegal & fraud we'd basically have no justice system at all.

Nice try, the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" also had Indictments attached to it -- the "Probable Cause Evidence" attached to 100% of the double-digit Indictments issued against C/S/S are provably fraudulent and the OAG had no "eyewitness" to support the Indictments claims. Mike McQueary testified before the 30th SWIGJ, not the 33rd SWIGJ. The 30th SWIGJ adjourned without producing a Presentment or Indictments. Mike McQueary factually testified and stated that he DID NOT "see" or "eyewitness" the sexual assault claimed by the OAG, the anal-rape of a 10 year old in Lasch on 2/9/2001 (not only has Mike McQueary confirmed this multiple times including under oath in a PA Court of Law, but a Grand Juror who sat on the 30th SWIGJ, Stand Bolton, has spoken publicly on the topic and unequivocally stated that McQueary said he was NOT an eyewitness nor did he see what the OAG claimed). McQueary actually provided EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE with his testimony to the 30th SWIGJ relative to the claims of the fraudulent "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and its Indictments.

The 33rd SWIGJ Presentment and its accompanying Indictments were completely fraudulent relative to the "Probable Cause Evidence" it claimed for 100% of the charges against C/S/S as the only evidence the cited was "eyewitness" testimony supporting their claims that was also supposedly made to JVP, Curley and Schultz, but the FACTUAL RECORD proves beyond any question that the corrupt PA OAG lied when they said they had an "eyewitness" supporting their claims as no such "eyewitness" ever exist.....it was a completely made up piece of bull$hit that the corrupt OAG then conjured with "smoke and mirrors" to enable the illegitimate Indictments and Malicious Prosecution of 3 separate citizens for which they had ZERO "Probable Cause" or "Evidence" to issue Indictments for.

 

[Westcoast24]

Any attorneys out there who'd like to venture into the no holds barred verbal arena?

.......

 

[mn78psu83]

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[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

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Just curious since the OAG didn't engage in "Malicious Prosecution" (the issuance of Indictments without "Probable Cause"), could you explain to me why:

• The OAG NEVER produced an "eyewitness" who saw "anal rape" that they claimed in the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" supporting 100% of their double-digit Indictments against C/S/S?
• The OAG NEVER produced this same "State eyewitness" who gave the OAG's claimed "eyewitness account" to JVP, Curley and Schultz in support of 100% of their "Felony" Conspiracy, Perjury and Failure to Report charges (all of which the State lost at Court - not only lost, but this same OAG was sanctioned by the Court for "Prosecutorial Misconduct" during these deliberations related to these charges).
• The OAG intentionally misrepresented Mike McQueary's testimony to the "30th SWIGJ" in their written "33rd SWIGJ Presentment", the one which produced Indictments, claiming that Mike McQueary "saw and eyewitnessed anal rape" that night when Mike McQueary testified to the DIAMETRIC OPPOSITE (did NOT see or eyewitness anal rape or any sexual act that night and could only speculate about the possibility that is, in fact, what was going on) to the "30th SWIGJ", the actual SWIGJ he testified before (which again was NOT the "33rd SWIGJ" which produced both the Presentment and Indictments)?
• Why the 30th SWIGJ produced no Presentment or Indictments if Mike McQueary provided "Direct Evidence" eyewitness testimony as the OAG claims that he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" anal rape (which we know he factually didn't from the actual record - and MM actually testified in the diametrically opposite fashion to the 30th SWIGJ which is "exculpatory evidence" relative to the OAG's "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and Indictment claims, the diametric opposite of "Direct Evidence Eyewitness" testimony the State claimed they would provide in their INDICTMENTS! - we know it not only from MM's actual 30th SWIGJ Testimony, but also from his OAG e-mail directly following the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment, his subsequent "at trial" sworn testimony consistent with MM's statements that he did not "eyewitness" what the State claimed in their "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" AND NEVER TOLD ANYONE HE HAD; AND FINALLY a Grand Juror who sat on the 30th SWIGJ publicly CONFIRMED that MM testified to the opposite at the 30th SWIGJ of what the corrupt OAG claimed in their INEXPLICABLE "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and Indictments)???
• Why Mike McQueary acted as a defense witness providing EXCULPATORY TESTIMONY relative to the State's claim that he ever claimed to be, or provide testimony as, an "eyewitness" who "saw" and "reported that he saw anal rape"???
• The OAG issued indictments saying they had, and would produce, an "eyewitness" who would provide "DIRECT EVIDENCE" of proof of their claims, but never produced an "eyewitness" such that 100% of the Indictments brought against C/S/S were brought with INTENTIONALLY FRAUDULENT "Probable Cause Evidence" cited in the Indictments!?!? (claiming MM filed a "Report" - a fact that was never in dispute by the defense - is not "PROVING" MM made an "eyewitness report of anal rape" to the PSU Administrators ESPECIALLY when MM has testified in a PA Court of Law multiple times, including his seminal testimony to the 30th SWIGJ, that he DID NOT IN FACT provide such an "eyewitness" account to ANYONE and only ever SPECULATED as to the possibility that this may have been what was going on! 100% of the Indictments, including the "Felony Perjury" counts claim that MM provided the administrators with an "eyewitness" Report that he unquestionably "saw" and "eyewitnessed" anal rape that night and this is what he reported!!! Clear CONJECTURE, and OBTUSE CONJECTURE at that [stuff like "I thought it was over the line and I would have made it clear that I thought it was over the line whatever it was.....blah, blah, blah] is not EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY anywhere in the United States except apparently in the corrupt confines of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania!!!).

 

[mn78psu83]

Just curious since the OAG didn't engage in "Malicious Prosecution" (the issuance of Indictments without "Probable Cause"), could you explain to me why:

• The OAG NEVER produced an "eyewitness" who saw "anal rape" that they claimed in the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" supporting 100% of their double-digit Indictments against C/S/S?
• The OAG NEVER produced this same "State eyewitness" who gave the OAG's claimed "eyewitness account" to JVP, Curley and Schultz in support of 100% of their "Felony" Conspiracy, Perjury and Failure to Report charges (all of which the State lost at Court - not only lost, but this same OAG was sanctioned by the Court for "Prosecutorial Misconduct" during these deliberations related to these charges).
• The OAG intentionally misrepresented Mike McQueary's testimony to the "30th SWIGJ" in their written "33rd SWIGJ Presentment", the one which produced Indictments, claiming that Mike McQueary "saw and eyewitnessed anal rape" that night when Mike McQueary testified to the DIAMETRIC OPPOSITE (did NOT see or eyewitness anal rape or any sexual act that night and could only speculate about the possibility that is, in fact, what was going on) to the "30th SWIGJ"), to the actual SWIGJ he testified before (which again was NOT the "33rd SWIGJ")?
• Why the 30th SWIGJ produced no Presentment or Indictments if Mike McQueary provided "Direct Evidence" eyewitness testimony as the OAG claims that "saw" and "eyewitnessed" anal rape (which we know he factually didn't from the actual record - and MM actually testified in the diametrically opposite fashion to the 30th SWIGJ which is "exculpatory evidence" relative to the OAG's "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and Indictment claims! - we know it not only from MM's actual 30th SWIGJ Testimony, but also from his OAG e-mail directly following the "33rd SWIGJ Presentment, his subsequent "at trial" sworn testimony consistent with MM's statements that he did not "eyewitness" what the State claimed in their "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" AND NEVER TOLD ANYONE HE HAD; AND FINALLY a Grand Juror who sat on the 30th SWIGJ publicly CONFIRMED that MM testified to the opposite at the 30th SWIGJ of what the corrupt OAG claimed in their INEXPLICABLE "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" and Indictments)???
• Why Mike McQueary acted as a defense witness providing EXCULPATORY TESTIMONY relative to the State's claim that he ever claimed to be, or provide testimony as, an "eyewitness" who "saw" and "reported that he saw anal rape"???
• The OAG issued indictments saying they had, and would produce, an "eyewitness" who would provide "DIRECT EVIDENCE" of proof of their claims, but never produced an "eyewitness" such that 100% of the Indictments brought against C/S/S were brought with INTENTIONALLY FRAUDULENT "Probable Cause Evidence" cited in the Indictments!?!? (claiming MM filed a "Report" - a fact that was never in dispute by the defense - is not "PROVING" MM made an "eyewitness report of anal rape" to the PSU Administrators ESPECIALLY when MM has testified in a PA Court of Law multiple times, including his seminal testimony to the 30th SWIGJ, that he DID NOT provide such an "eyewitness" account to ANYONE and only ever SPECULATED as to the possibility that this may have been what was going on! 100% of the Indictments, including the "Felony Perjury" counts claim that MM provided the administrators with an "eyewitness" Report that he unquestionably "saw" and "eyewitnessed" anal rape that night and this is what he reported!!! Clear CONJECTURE, and OBTUSE CONJECTURE at that [stuff like "I thought it was over the line and I would have made it clear that I thought it was over the line whatever it was.....blah, blah, blah] is not EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY anywhere in the United States except apparently in the corrupt confines of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania!!!).

I'm not an attorney.
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[2turgisgrimm]

I'm not an attorney.
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4 handles in 2 weeks...think he is drinking heavier than usual.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Any attorneys out there who'd like to venture into the no holds barred verbal arena?

Isn't it more entertaining watching Bushwood yell at himself pretending to have other people's opinions? I'm not a lawyer, but he continues to say that too. I love his threads where he rants on and then replies to hemself because nobody reads his crap. His posts are formatted like crap in addition to being too long and basically are just a man yelling over and over again.

 

[artsandletters]

......

You're short one .

But I'm not OCD.

 

[mn78psu83]

.....

 

[artsandletters]

.....

I'll count the periods after I get done checking that all the burners are off on the stove which I haven't used in a month and making sure all the doors are locked -- again.

 

[mn78psu83]

I'll count the periods after I get done checking that all the burners are off on the stove which I haven't used in a month and making sure all the doors are locked -- again.

The other day, I asked my wife if she had seen my glasses. Her response, "You mean the ones there?" They were resting on my chest hanging from the neck cord I was wearing?

 

[artsandletters]

The other day, I asked my wife if she had seen my glasses. Her response, "You mean the ones there?" They were resting on my chest hanging from the neck cord I was wearing?

Don't get me started.

 

[artsandletters]

The other day, I asked my wife if she had seen my glasses. Her response, "You mean the ones there?" They were resting on my chest hanging from the neck cord I was wearing?

I did what I thought was the funniest thing yesterday. I had tried a number on my trusty flipphone and it went to a VM. I ended the call and put the cell phone to my ear to make sure there was a dial tone before I made the next call. Honestly, I had reverted back to that practice, you know when there was a pause between the thumb hangup and the dial tone coming on. I laughed. I haven't used a regular phone in years. SMH, what a dope.

And I can't tell you how many times, back some years, that I tried to dial the remote to make a call or picked up the remote to answer the ringing phone.

 

[mn78psu83]

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[artsandletters]

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Too easy. I didn't even have to count. Tormenting me seems to ple shit did I lock my car.

 

[mn78psu83]

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