SIAP: Fina, other Philly DA porny racists transferred! HAA!

[demlion]

Well that sure did not take long, did it Seth?

http://mobile.philly.com/beta?wss=/philly/blogs/cityhall&id=360487921

We just got word that the prosecutors at the center of the 'Porngate' email scandal are being transferred out of their units in the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office.


"Frank Fina will be transferred from Special Investigations to Civil Litigation; Marc Costanzo will be transferred from Special Investigations to Appeals, and Patrick Blessington will be transferred from Insurance Fraud to the Post Conviction Relief Act Unit."

HAHAHAHAHA! The first of what I hope will be many career changes for these hosebags.

 

[WishfulLion]

Pornography, on a private e-mail, is not a crime. Even for a judge.

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...uilds-for-Kane-s-removal/stories/201512310006

 

[elvis63]

You are correct wishfullion.

 

[PennSt8er]

Pornography, on a private e-mail, is not a crime. Even for a judge.

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...uilds-for-Kane-s-removal/stories/201512310006

Somebody at that rag is getting a payday from Fina and his boys. That is utter rubbish.

 

[demlion]

Pornography, on a private e-mail, is not a crime. Even for a judge.

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...uilds-for-Kane-s-removal/stories/201512310006

Racism is not a crime, either. But having porny racists prosecute criminal cases in which the victims or the perps or both are women or minorities or both is very stupid, and even the slow-witted Seth Williams can now see it. Why can't you guys?

 

[bkmtnittany1]

DEM....here's hoping this case explodes even more with Gansler

 

[WishfulLion]

Racism is not a crime, either. But having porny racists prosecute criminal cases in which the victims or the perps or both are women or minorities or both is very stupid, and even the slow-witted Seth Williams can now see it. Why can't you guys?

Because I think jokes are just that jokes. And anyone who read them can tell they weren't intended to harm anyone. And I think you know it....you just refuse to admit it because you smell blood in the water.

Reminder of the joke:

Woman: Doctor, My jaw hurts because my husband hits me when he comes home after a night of drinking.

Doctor: OK, take this solution, and when you see your husband coming, put it in your mouth and swish it around until he goes to bed.

Woman 3 weeks later at her next appointment: Doctor, it worked. Amazing!

Doctor: See how keeping your mouth shut helps!

Now that's harmless humor. And you know it....

 

[WishfulLion]

Even worse!!!


Or the photo of a topless woman captioned: "Dear Abby: I'm an 18-year-old girl from Arkansas and I'm still a virgin. Do you think my brothers are gay?"

Ahhhh, no that's HORRIBLE. As a redneck, I'm scarred for life. Oh, the horror!!!!

 

[demlion]

Because I think jokes are just that jokes. And anyone who read them can tell they weren't intended to harm anyone. And I think you know it....you just refuse to admit it because you smell blood in the water.

Reminder of the joke:

Woman: Doctor, My jaw hurts because my husband hits me when he comes home after a night of drinking.

Doctor: OK, take this solution, and when you see your husband coming, put it in your mouth and swish it around until he goes to bed.

Woman 3 weeks later at her next appointment: Doctor, it worked. Amazing!

Doctor: See how keeping your mouth shut helps!

Now that's harmless humor. And you know it....

I hope you're joking. If not you are insane. Unless you work for some creepy megachurch, your a$$ would be on the street if you said that in most any office in the country.

 

[demlion]

DEM....here's hoping this case explodes even more with Gansler

This move looks an awful lot like a REACTION to Gansler.

 

[WishfulLion]

No, I'm not joking and I'm not insane....AND he didn't say it in the office.

One more point - people had to actually seek out these jokes to find them, just so they could be offended. He didn't tell them (as inoffensive as they are) at the office, in a meeting. In fact, he was typically only on the receiving end on his personal e-mail account.

He DID forward the horribly offensive joke about the woman whose drunk husband hit her.

I guess we'll let people decide if those jokes above are so horrible.

 

[demlion]

No, I'm not joking and I'm not insane....AND he didn't say it in the office.

I guess we'll let people decide if those jokes above are so horrible.

HAHAHA! Well the people who Seth Williams wants to vote for him are going to find this kind of tough to take. Keep in mind that there are other lawyers just like Seth who do NOT employ porny racists. Some of them live in Philly and they can run against Seth.

 

[WishfulLion]

HAHAHA! Well the people who Seth Williams want to vote for him are going to find this kind of tough to take.

Sure, it's their absolute right to vote him out of office.

Now, as a man of two daughters, I'd much rather them be subjected to the joke above than to an office where the CEO was getting hummers from teenage interns. But maybe we have different standards.

 

[PSUEngineerx2]

Because I think jokes are just that jokes. And anyone who read them can tell they weren't intended to harm anyone. And I think you know it....you just refuse to admit it because you smell blood in the water.

Reminder of the joke:

Woman: Doctor, My jaw hurts because my husband hits me when he comes home after a night of drinking.

Doctor: OK, take this solution, and when you see your husband coming, put it in your mouth and swish it around until he goes to bed.

Woman 3 weeks later at her next appointment: Doctor, it worked. Amazing!

Doctor: See how keeping your mouth shut helps!

Now that's harmless humor. And you know it....

You're a sick moron. Look at the first 5 images from Frank Fina. What is wrong with you?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzbHEwvc5jZlckdSLW1hZC12UG8/view?usp=sharing

 

[Agoodnap]

Pornography, on a private e-mail, is not a crime. Even for a judge.

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...uilds-for-Kane-s-removal/stories/201512310006

You are too stupid to know that the "private email" was opened, viewed, sent, and received on a PUBLIC TAXPAYER owned computer while at work being paid by those same TAXPAYERS. Hint: you don't need your home computer to access your personal/private email. If I open my private email at work and something inappropriate is there I'm fired and literally no one at the company can save me.

 

[slwlion]

Racism is not a crime, either. But having porny racists prosecute criminal cases in which the victims or the perps or both are women or minorities or both is very stupid, and even the slow-witted Seth Williams can now see it. Why can't you guys?

Racism is not a crime, either. But having porny racists prosecute criminal cases in which the victims or the perps or both are women or minorities or both is very stupid, and even the slow-witted Seth Williams can now see it. Why can't you guys?[/QUOTE
I believe one definition of 'racism is treating people differently because of race, and if proven , correct me if I'm wrong , is a crime.

 

[BobPSU92]

I. AM. OUTRAGED. by wishful lion's LACK.
OF. OUTRAGE.

 

[WishfulLion]

You are too stupid to know that the "private email" was opened, viewed, sent, and received on a PUBLIC TAXPAYER owned computer while at work being paid by those same TAXPAYERS. Hint: you don't need your home computer to access your personal/private email. If I open my private email at work and something inappropriate is there I'm fired and literally no one at the company can save me.

That's not what happened. He never opened them at work. Apparently Kane got them from another recipient who was copied on some of the e-mails. So, you simply are uninformed.

 

[WishfulLion]

You're a sick moron. Look at the first 5 images from Frank Fina. What is wrong with you?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzbHEwvc5jZlckdSLW1hZC12UG8/view?usp=sharing

Now I don't know much about Fina. We were talking about Eakin. Did Fina receive and/or send those e-mails at home on a personal account, or at work? Some posters here have avatars that are just as harmful, including gifs showing people having sex. I don't remember any of the posters here being outraged at that.

 

[elvis63]

They don't give a crap , they just want to see those they blame punished z

 

[demlion]

Sure, it's their absolute right to vote him out of office.

Now, as a man of two daughters, I'd much rather them be subjected to the joke above than to an office where the CEO was getting hummers from teenage interns. But maybe we have different standards.

I also have two daughters. I ALSO had a secretary who was shot to death by her abusive, controlling ex-husband. Her 5 yo daughter, who was asleep upstairs when her Dad shot her Mom through the front window of her house, grew up with Mommy in the graveyard and Daddy in jail. That was after coming down from her room to find her mother dying of a shot in her chest. Domestic violence is not funny, you jackass.

 

[PSUEngineerx2]

Now I don't know much about Fina. We were talking about Eakin. Did Fina receive and/or send those e-mails at home on a personal account, or at work? Some posters here have avatars that are just as harmful, including gifs showing people having sex. I don't remember any of the posters here being outraged at that.

Fina and his buddies and that series of hundreds of disgusting emails was on state computers during working hours on the taxpayers' dime.

 

[Aoshiro]

Because I think jokes are just that jokes. And anyone who read them can tell they weren't intended to harm anyone. And I think you know it....you just refuse to admit it because you smell blood in the water.

Reminder of the joke:

Woman: Doctor, My jaw hurts because my husband hits me when he comes home after a night of drinking.

Doctor: OK, take this solution, and when you see your husband coming, put it in your mouth and swish it around until he goes to bed.

Woman 3 weeks later at her next appointment: Doctor, it worked. Amazing!

Doctor: See how keeping your mouth shut helps!

Now that's harmless humor. And you know it....

It's not humorous and it is harmful. There is nothing funny about domestic abuse and a person who thinks that it is funny should not be serving as a district attorney.

 

[Aoshiro]

Now I don't know much about Fina. We were talking about Eakin. Did Fina receive and/or send those e-mails at home on a personal account, or at work? Some posters here have avatars that are just as harmful, including gifs showing people having sex. I don't remember any of the posters here being outraged at that.

He sent them from his PA OAG account.
PA taxpayers paid for his misogyny and racism.

 

[Aoshiro]

No, I'm not joking and I'm not insane....AND he didn't say it in the office.

One more point - people had to actually seek out these jokes to find them, just so they could be offended. He didn't tell them (as inoffensive as they are) at the office, in a meeting. In fact, he was typically only on the receiving end on his personal e-mail account.

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I see. So if they were attending Klan meetings it would also have no bearing on their ability to fairly uphold the law because someone would have to "seek out" their attendance so they could be offended? I mean, so what if they were burning crosses in their spare time - it doesn't mean that they wouldn't treat black defendants fairly, right?

Those emails reflect their attitudes. None of the recipients should be in the judiciary or in any public prosecutor's office.

 

[demlion]

Now I don't know much about Fina. We were talking about Eakin. Did Fina receive and/or send those e-mails at home on a personal account, or at work? Some posters here have avatars that are just as harmful, including gifs showing people having sex. I don't remember any of the posters here being outraged at that.

With Eakin and Fina, there is another issue that renders which computer it was, and where it was accessed from, irrelevant. When your firm (or office in the case of a Prosecutor) is handling criminal cases or other matters in front of a court, whatever friendship you have with a judge on that court has to be suspended except for the basic civilities.

When a SC justice sends or receives porny or racist or "DV is funny" emails from a high level State's attorney while appeals are pending before the court that touch in any way on any of the issues joked about, that may well be a matter of very serious concern for the Judicial conduct board. (Unless of course that Board has been whored out the way every state agency seems to be in PA.)

Eakin's fat is in the fire on this, not because it was necessarily a crime, but because of the unsavory association with Fina while the AG's office had domestic murders or black criminal defendants or ANY kind of women's issue before the court. That is true whatever email account was used or if they used the Pony Express or smoke signals or passenger pigeons to communicate.

 

[demlion]

I see. So if they were attending Klan meetings it would also have no bearing on their ability to fairly uphold the law because someone would have to "seek out" their attendance so they could be offended? I mean, so what if they were burning crosses in their spare time - it doesn't mean that they wouldn't treat black defendants fairly, right?

Those emails reflect their attitudes. None of the recipients should be in the judiciary or in any public prosecutor's office.

That ANY person of reasonable intelligence would have to have this explained to him is mind-boggling.

 

[WishfulLion]

He sent them from his PA OAG account.
PA taxpayers paid for his misogyny and racism.

Well, then Fina should be fired, IF you are correct. I would appreciate a link and then I'll agree he should be fired.

 

[WishfulLion]

I see. So if they were attending Klan meetings it would also have no bearing on their ability to fairly uphold the law because someone would have to "seek out" their attendance so they could be offended? I mean, so what if they were burning crosses in their spare time - it doesn't mean that they wouldn't treat black defendants fairly, right?

Those emails reflect their attitudes. None of the recipients should be in the judiciary or in any public prosecutor's office.

No, active participation in KKK meetings is enough to indicate that a judge could not rule impartially in a case involving a black man.

But that's not at all what we have here, is it? What you've done is construct a straw man.

I am saying that, depending upon the nature of the joke, a person who tells a joke to the detriment of a Polish person, or a Frenchman, or a black person, or a woman can tell such a joke and be completely capable of judging impartially.

Are you saying that because I tell my friend the tired old joke "What do you call 10,000 Frenchmen with their hands up? The army", that I cannot rule against a man who steals from a Frenchman?

Are you seriously saying that? Because that's what it sounds like. Nice strawman.

 

[WishfulLion]

That ANY person of reasonable intelligence would have to have this explained to him is mind-boggling.

It is mind-boggling that a joke can be equated to attendance at a KKK meeting. In fact, I find it mind-boggling that someone of reasonable intelligence would be willing to make such an absurd comparison.

 

[demlion]

No, active participation in KKK meetings is enough to indicate that a judge could not rule impartially in a case involving a black man.

But that's not at all what we have here, is it? What you've done is construct a straw man.

I am saying that, depending upon the nature of the joke, a person who tells a joke to the detriment of a Polish person, or a Frenchman, or a black person, or a woman can tell such a joke and be completely capable of judging impartially.

Are you saying that because I tell my friend the tired old joke "What do you call 10,000 Frenchmen with their hands up? The army", that I cannot rule against a man who steals from a Frenchman?

Are you seriously saying that? Because that's what it sounds like. Nice strawman.

There is a further question about this, too, which you are ignoring. Judges must not only BE impartial, they must have the APPEARANCE of being impartial. So even if the laughable notion that a guy who tells racist jokes might, somehow, be impartial is TRUE, it does not matter because he APPEARS not to be impartial. Yikes what a fool.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

No, active participation in KKK meetings is enough to indicate that a judge could not rule impartially in a case involving a black man.

But that's not at all what we have here, is it? What you've done is construct a straw man.

I am saying that, depending upon the nature of the joke, a person who tells a joke to the detriment of a Polish person, or a Frenchman, or a black person, or a woman can tell such a joke and be completely capable of judging impartially.

Are you saying that because I tell my friend the tired old joke "What do you call 10,000 Frenchmen with their hands up? The army", that I cannot rule against a man who steals from a Frenchman?

Are you seriously saying that? Because that's what it sounds like. Nice strawman.

OMG

Can anyone really be this dumb?

I want to doubt it.....and just write him off as a complete troll trying to propagandize.
But, the scary thing.....he just might believe what he wrote.

 

[WishfulLion]

It's not humorous and it is harmful. There is nothing funny about domestic abuse and a person who thinks that it is funny should not be serving as a district attorney.

You are saying that women are so weak-minded that they cannot tolerate the telling of a relatively clean joke?

 

[91Joe95]

Pornography, on a private e-mail, is not a crime. Even for a judge.

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion...uilds-for-Kane-s-removal/stories/201512310006

But it is a fireable offense when you bring it into work.

 

[WishfulLion]

OMG

Can anyone really be this dumb?

I want to doubt it.....and just write him off as a complete troll trying to propagandize.
But, the scary thing.....he just might believe what he wrote.

Stinky, I don't know what to tell you. No one is alleging that Eakin or Fina went to Klan meetings.

They did tell some jokes about women, and apparently black people, though I have not seen those jokes. I will never understand how people who took so little offense to Bill Clinton's absolute abuse of power in getting blow jobs from a 19 year old intern are now so offended by a mere joke.

 

[91Joe95]

You are too stupid to know that the "private email" was opened, viewed, sent, and received on a PUBLIC TAXPAYER owned computer while at work being paid by those same TAXPAYERS. Hint: you don't need your home computer to access your personal/private email. If I open my private email at work and something inappropriate is there I'm fired and literally no one at the company can save me.

He knows.

 

[Aoshiro]

You are saying that women are so weak-minded that they cannot tolerate the telling of a relatively clean joke?

Misogynists like you and Frank Fina are surely disappointed that women are so strong-minded that they will not tolerate this shit any more from public officials.

 

[demlion]

You are saying that women are so weak-minded that they cannot tolerate the telling of a relatively clean joke?

So suppose you had wounded combat vets in your family and I told jokes suggesting they were baby killers who got what they deserved. If those joke offended you or them it would only be because you were "Weak-minded?" Oh wait. That hypothetical might be a little too close to the bone for you.

 

[WishfulLion]

There is a further question about this, too, which you are ignoring. Judges must not only BE impartial, they must have the APPEARANCE of being impartial. So even if the laughable notion that a guy who tells racist jokes might, somehow, be impartial is TRUE, it does not matter because he APPEARS not to be impartial. Yikes what a fool.

Are you saying that Sonia Sotomayor has the appearance of impartiality after saying that she favored the view of a "wise Latina woman" to that of other people? I don't think you really mean what you say.

 

[WishfulLion]

Misogynists like you and Frank Fina are surely disappointed that women are so strong-minded that they will not tolerate this shit any more from public officials.

I thought we agreed to fire Frank Fina.