SIAP: So anyone get their NLC letter stating:

[uhlerlion]

"Based on your feedback, there are a few exciting changes to the NLC membership levels for membership this year. For 2017, the maximums for season tickets based on donation levels have increased and nine sections of Beaver Stadium will see a decrease in per seat donations."

While decreasing the per seat donation, will create new opportunities for many fans, we hope you continue your level of support and ask to consider raising your commitment to create life changing opportunities for PSU student athletes. Two ways to do this are participate in the "110" more option or increase to the next membership level.

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Hmmm so is the Blake Shelton concert bringing in so much revenue they can do this, or did they fall on a crap load of money to do stadium renovations while lowering the giving level, or is the dreaded ticket price increase on the horizon?

Pray tell what is dear old Sandy up to?

 

[mn78psu83]

"Based on your feedback, there are a few exciting changes to the NLC membership levels for membership this year. For 2017, the maximums for season tickets based on donation levels have increased and nine sections of Beaver Stadium will see a decrease in per seat donations."

While decreasing the per seat donation, will create new opportunities for many fans, we hope you continue your level of support and ask to consider raising your commitment to create life changing opportunities for PSU student athletes. Two ways to do this are participate in the "110" more option or increase to the next membership level.

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Hmmm so is the Blake Shelton concert bringing in so much revenue they can do this, or did they fall on a crap load of money to do stadium renovations while lowering the giving level, or is the dreaded ticket price increase on the horizon?

Pray tell what is dear old Sandy up to?

Calling Barry and Art.

 

[fairgambit]

"Based on your feedback, there are a few exciting changes to the NLC membership levels for membership this year. For 2017, the maximums for season tickets based on donation levels have increased and nine sections of Beaver Stadium will see a decrease in per seat donations."

While decreasing the per seat donation, will create new opportunities for many fans, we hope you continue your level of support and ask to consider raising your commitment to create life changing opportunities for PSU student athletes. Two ways to do this are participate in the "110" more option or increase to the next membership level.

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Hmmm so is the Blake Shelton concert bringing in so much revenue they can do this, or did they fall on a crap load of money to do stadium renovations while lowering the giving level, or is the dreaded ticket price increase on the horizon?

Pray tell what is dear old Sandy up to?

They appear to be slowly realizing that empty seats are not a good thing. I will add that despite my nearly 40 years of season tickets, they have made no effort to get me back. I really wish they would so I could tell them to go to hell, but it seems they are reading my mind.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

"Based on your feedback, there are a few exciting changes to the NLC membership levels for membership this year. For 2017, the maximums for season tickets based on donation levels have increased and nine sections of Beaver Stadium will see a decrease in per seat donations."

While decreasing the per seat donation, will create new opportunities for many fans, we hope you continue your level of support and ask to consider raising your commitment to create life changing opportunities for PSU student athletes. Two ways to do this are participate in the "110" more option or increase to the next membership level.

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Hmmm so is the Blake Shelton concert bringing in so much revenue they can do this, or did they fall on a crap load of money to do stadium renovations while lowering the giving level, or is the dreaded ticket price increase on the horizon?

Pray tell what is dear old Sandy up to?

Maybe they just feel guilty for what they've done?

Sorry, the frostbite is settling into the cranial crevice!

 

[91Joe95]

"Based on your feedback, there are a few exciting changes to the NLC membership levels for membership this year. For 2017, the maximums for season tickets based on donation levels have increased and nine sections of Beaver Stadium will see a decrease in per seat donations."

While decreasing the per seat donation, will create new opportunities for many fans, we hope you continue your level of support and ask to consider raising your commitment to create life changing opportunities for PSU student athletes. Two ways to do this are participate in the "110" more option or increase to the next membership level.

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Hmmm so is the Blake Shelton concert bringing in so much revenue they can do this, or did they fall on a crap load of money to do stadium renovations while lowering the giving level, or is the dreaded ticket price increase on the horizon?

Pray tell what is dear old Sandy up to?

Have you not been paying attention? All these loans have lead to record revenues. Why the loans? For the opportunity to pay off all the BOT/Sandusky shenanigans. Isn't higher education a wonderful thing?

 

[91Joe95]

Calling Barry and Art.

Busy.

 

[Art]

"Based on your feedback, there are a few exciting changes to the NLC membership levels for membership this year. For 2017, the maximums for season tickets based on donation levels have increased and nine sections of Beaver Stadium will see a decrease in per seat donations."

While decreasing the per seat donation, will create new opportunities for many fans, we hope you continue your level of support and ask to consider raising your commitment to create life changing opportunities for PSU student athletes. Two ways to do this are participate in the "110" more option or increase to the next membership level.

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Hmmm so is the Blake Shelton concert bringing in so much revenue they can do this, or did they fall on a crap load of money to do stadium renovations while lowering the giving level, or is the dreaded ticket price increase on the horizon?

Pray tell what is dear old Sandy up to?

Calling Barry and Art.

Not sure that it signifies anything significant. Someone probably figured out that it's better to sell seats at a lower price than not sell them at all.

That being said, I don't see how a major stadium project won't be accompanied by an increase in the cost of seats unless Screwface is planning to do to PSU what she did to Cal.

 

[uhlerlion]

Maybe they just feel guilty for what they've done?

Sorry, the frostbite is settling into the cranial crevice!

if you look at the handy dandy giving chart max 8 tickets at the 4 lower giving levels which I believe used to be maxes of 2,4,6,8. But now single game tickets are offered at those giving levels Max 2,4,6,8. Upper three giving levels are now 14 max which I believe used to be 10,12,14 tiers. I gotta think --allow a small concession on the how many seats you can get but an eventual seat price increase would offset the minor gain in giving level.

 

[Tweedbear]

After having season tickets since 1954 I gave up my tickets . STEP was the reason.

The seats are on the 50 they and the seats in front and behind me a total of 17 seats were not sold this year or last year.
STEP has been a financial disaster they are trying a patch. Crow is not tasty

 

[bjf1991]

"Based on your feedback, there are a few exciting changes to the NLC membership levels for membership this year. For 2017, the maximums for season tickets based on donation levels have increased and nine sections of Beaver Stadium will see a decrease in per seat donations."

While decreasing the per seat donation, will create new opportunities for many fans, we hope you continue your level of support and ask to consider raising your commitment to create life changing opportunities for PSU student athletes. Two ways to do this are participate in the "110" more option or increase to the next membership level.

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Hmmm so is the Blake Shelton concert bringing in so much revenue they can do this, or did they fall on a crap load of money to do stadium renovations while lowering the giving level, or is the dreaded ticket price increase on the horizon?

Pray tell what is dear old Sandy up to?

They are so f$cking disjointed, dysfunctional, and incompetent - - - your guess is BETTER than Sandy Baby's

This cluster f$ck........and I mean an absolute - no hyperbole - full on cluster f$ck in PSU ICA should be rated "Inverse X" (some scenes may be damaging and inappropriate for mature audiences)
This dates back to the STEP debacle (yes, BlueBandNut - that predates Tsunami Sandy)......but those guys never had a chance to attempt to straighten that STEP FUBAR out (if they had, maybe they would have - maybe not, but we will certainly never know)


I'm too old, too tired, and too disgusted to bother going through it all again - just to hear the bullshit from the Human Bidets and the 409ers:
But the misfits, morons, carpet-munchers, empty suits, deadweights, and rainbow-warriors that inundate the ever-bloating PSU ICA couldn't "un-f$ckup" a knotted shoelace - - -
Let alone the "septic-tank-overflowing-into-the-dining-room-on-Thanksgiving" shitstorm they've created out of PSU ICA Finances

 

[interrobang]

STEP most certainly has not been a financial disaster. Just it happened to be rolled out right when the scandal hit.

 

[AvgUser]

STEP most certainly has not been a financial disaster. Just it happened to be rolled out right when the scandal hit.

STEP has been a customer relations and customer loyalty disaster or certain. I gave up 47-yard line seats after begrudgingly paying STEP for two years. I know many long-timers who did the same. Some I thought were lifers. Nope. Enough is enough. Everyone has a breaking point.

 

[bjf1991]

STEP most certainly has not been a financial disaster. Just it happened to be rolled out right when the scandal hit.

Good grief.......really?

STEP rolled out 2 years earlier

100% (or effectively 100%) season ticket sales dropped to 80%.........and the long-term impact?
Let's put this in a format that a complete financial neophyte should be able to understand:
They took an entire herd of dairy cattle - that produced valuable, high-grade, marketable milk every day.......and traded it for a few pounds of butter - because someone told them that while milk sold for $0.50 per pound, the butter was worth $5.00 per pound.

Please - you can't be that ignorant
It may have been the single worst long-term fiscal decision ever self-imposed by a collegiate ICA group
Now: IF the "situation" hadn't arisen that led to the "turnover" at the highest levels of ICA......might they have been able to work some things out to mitigate the "minor" shotgun blast to the head that they self-administered? Maybe......we'll never know

If you don't know WTF you are talking about......don't "comment"

Or do "comment" ......I don't care.

 

[junior1]

Good grief.......really?

STEP rolled out 2 years earlier

100% (or effectively 100%) season ticket sales dropped to 80%.........and the long-term impact?
Please - you can't be that ignorant
It may have been the single worst long-term fiscal decision ever self-imposed by a collegiate ICA group
Now: IF the situation hadn't arisen that led to the "turnover" at the highest levels of ICA......might they have been able to work some things out to mitigate the "minor" shotgun blast to the head that they self-administered? Maybe......we'll never know

If you don't know WTF you are talking about......don't "comment"

Or do "comment" ......I don't care.

Not disagreeing with you! The step goal was to increase overall revenue... they accomplished that. But the added revenue was at the expense of losing many, many of the longtime supporters of the program. The university put money over fans. I don't begrudge them the need for more money, but the way they instituted step was piss poor

 

[bjf1991]

Not disagreeing with you! The step goal was to increase overall revenue... they accomplished that. But the added revenue was at the expense of losing many, many of the longtime supporters of the program. The university put money over fans. I don't begrudge them the need for more money, but the way they instituted step was piss poor

It was a fiscal disaster as well - a HUGE fiscal disaster

It's been detailed so many times over the last five years - - and I ain't gonna' go through it again (largely because nearly all of the 5% of the population that will actually critically read information, already knows and understands the situation, and the rest....?)

They took some short term cash.....and not much cash at that....... in exchange for one of the most reliable "ATM" revenue producers to ever exist for any ICA department in the nation (the milk/butter analogy I used earlier to TRY to make it simple enough for anyone to understand)

It is what it is.......and it was so f-ing obvious to a blind man (BEFORE the program that would become known as "STEP" was even rolled out) that it is absolutely bewildering that the program was rolled out by folks who SHOULD have been intimately familiar with the PSU Athletics history and landscape

A "marketing/operations management" grad student - if they did a "PSU ICA Case Study", and came up with an unjustifiable proposal as F-Ed up as "STEP" would deserve an "F" on their project, an "F" for the course, and immediate expulsion from their Grad program.

 

[Tweedbear]

Interrobang check the numbers and do the math. If you are a hoarder check out the preSTEP NLC financials with the current ones.

 

[kgilbert78]

STEP has been a customer relations and customer loyalty disaster or certain. I gave up 47-yard line seats after begrudgingly paying STEP for two years. I know many long-timers who did the same. Some I thought were lifers. Nope. Enough is enough. Everyone has a breaking point.

It was *one* of our reasons. There were others. High hotel prices and the fact that, at 60, the jaunt from Central Ohio to Central PA on a regular basis got tougher and tougher--though we only did 3-4 games a year (I shared with a friend). In fact, we didn't go to any football games this year (though we do follow faithfully on TV). What I paid for my tickets, etc. got us 10 days in Heidelberg this summer. Just sayin'.

We do still hope to do more of our Big Ten Road Trip, as there are a number of campuses we've not been to yet. Iowa is on the plans for next season, as my wife's grandfather was from eastern Iowa, and Mrs. KG wants to see where he was from. But UP? Hard to say when we will get back for a game (we are planning to go to graduation this spring--friend's daughter).

And let's be real. Something like STEP probably was needed. It was the way they handled it that was a disaster. Insulting your fan base by telling them that they are ripping off the school is not a good idea.

 

[Nitwit]

If you gave up your seats because of Step or any other reason, you missed a bunch of great games. This was the most fun season I've had in 40 years of attending games. OSU, Minn., Iowa, MSU - what a season to be a season ticket holder.

 

[bjf1991]

If you gave up your seats because of Step or any other reason, you missed a bunch of great games. This was the most fun season I've had in 40 years of attending games. OSU, Minn., Iowa, MSU - what a season to be a season ticket holder.

If someone gave up their seats because of STEP..........


They could have (if they wanted to) gone to every game over the last 7 years - - - - for 1/2 the cost of the folks who purchased the same seats through "STEP"

 

[NittanyBlue92]

"Based on your feedback, there are a few exciting changes to the NLC membership levels for membership this year. For 2017, the maximums for season tickets based on donation levels have increased and nine sections of Beaver Stadium will see a decrease in per seat donations."

While decreasing the per seat donation, will create new opportunities for many fans, we hope you continue your level of support and ask to consider raising your commitment to create life changing opportunities for PSU student athletes. Two ways to do this are participate in the "110" more option or increase to the next membership level.

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Hmmm so is the Blake Shelton concert bringing in so much revenue they can do this, or did they fall on a crap load of money to do stadium renovations while lowering the giving level, or is the dreaded ticket price increase on the horizon?

Pray tell what is dear old Sandy up to?

If that's exactly how it is in fact written, someone needs an editor to clean up the various grammatical errors and poor syntax. I realize that's not the point of the discussion here, but you would think we would be able to produce a better constructed email/letter going to thousands of NLC members.

 

[uhlerlion]

If that's exactly how it is in fact written, someone needs an editor to clean up the various grammatical errors and poor syntax. I realize that's not the point of the discussion here, but you would think we would be able to produce a better constructed email/letter going to thousands of NLC members.

There was introductory paragraph which I left out-- the normal thanks for your commitment crap.

The first part was word for word sans NLC -my acronym- the second paragraph I inserted PSU for Penn State. And the last sentence was a paraphrase or 2-3 more sentences in the letter. I was illustrating the general concept of the letter. That is why I didn't use quotes on the 2nd paragraph.

I left out the obligatory thank you paragraph as well, so there was more to the letter than what I posted. I thought what I posted was important to the conversation and not intended to be a critique of my paraphrasing.

So really not the point of the discussion as you noted is it?

 

[Victor E. Bell]

Based on your feedback

My experience with Penn State is that nothing is done based on anybody's "feedback" unless feedback is defined as staying home on Saturday or towing a plane banner. Wonder if they got any feedback when Peetz, Frazier, and Erickson were burying PSU and the community as a bunch of crazy soulless scumbags. I'm guessing there may have been. That sure changed their minds, eh?

 

[bjf1991]

My experience with Penn State is that nothing is done based on anybody's "feedback" unless feedback is defined as staying home on Saturday or towing a plane banner. Wonder if they got any feedback when Peetz, Frazier, and Erickson were burying PSU and the community as a bunch of crazy soulless scumbags. I'm guessing there may have been. That sure changed their minds, eh?

^^^^^^ BOOM!!! ^^^^^

 

[PSU_Nut]

And let's be real. Something like STEP probably was needed. It was the way they handled it that was a disaster. Insulting your fan base by telling them that they are ripping off the school is not a good idea.

STEP was needed but the incompetent leadership did nothing for over a decade until it was too late. Schools had been slowly implementing these types of programs all over the country. Penn State's leaders sat back and did nothing. The only solutions they had was add more seats and raise football ticket prices. It was so bad that even a school like Wisconsin had passed Penn State in revenue in the late 2000's. They knew the end was near for Paterno and could not rely on his magic touch with donors so they came up with STEP. Instead of slowly implementing it through the years in different sections and slowly increasing they jumped in head first. It ridiculous that they thought people would just except a $600 a seat donation increase. Especially after a decade of more lean years then good years. They had sold out of season tickets 2 years out of the previous 8 seasons. They tried to justify it as other schools are doing it. I wish they would completely overhaul it but they are getting closer to were it should be. This latest change is just another step to finding a balance between donations and ticket sales.

 

[91Joe95]

STEP most certainly has not been a financial disaster. Just it happened to be rolled out right when the scandal hit.

Thank you BOT.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

Thank you BOT.

I always keep in the back of my mind that in the early fall of '11 they sent out bait to the NLC that if you renewed your tickets by Nov 1 (I believe) they were giving bonus NLC points. The first time they ever made such an offer in my dealings with them. A month or so later the presentment hit the fan. Somebody had their ear to the rails. Can't tell me otherwise.

 

[richmin3]

Stupid is as stupid does