I hope he has a great, long NFL career. I don’t see it but I am not an NFL scout. Seems like a good kid.
SIAP: With NFL draft decision looming, Miles Sanders leans on his mother
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“Tough to tell how he projects to the NFL. Kid has never played a meaningful football game in his life.”
One thing in his favor is that he is as running backs go relatively low mileage having only one year of wear and tear on his body. I think that matters for running backs who seem to have a number of hits before the body breaks down. He has most of the measurable. He’s big enough fast enough and runs hard between the tackles. Obviously ball security is a problem
Ok, thanks for the clarification. Definitely not Braddock or Rankin.
How fast is he? He does run hard between the tackles, but still seems to want to try to take it east/west more than he should.
could you imagine the stink if they dont pay for it? And even if they dont they can borrow the money against future earnings to pay for it themselves. There are some good reasons to do a private pay, in that you can buy even more insurance. Doing this is not a NCAA rules violation.
I used to think this. But if you look at her posts, she mentions the brother/sister relationship. She is several years older and has a child of her own.
The article that was posted said no. It also said getting a degree is very important to him.
Obviously we all want the best for the kid. Another good Penn State story. I have changed from selfishly hoping he stayed to thinking it might be best for PSU if he left. We would see a slight drop off next year for sure but with Slade, Brown and now Ford and Cain and a slew of high end talent in the area next year we need to keep the 3 and out pipeline flowing. Miles leaving would almost certainly mean Ford or Cain or both would get some snaps next year.
I created the situation by stating the truth that bowl games are meaningless? Make perfect sense. I love when people resort to being childish because they can't actually make a valid argument. It's adorable.
The article is wrong if it says he lives in Forest Hills. Think more Turtle Creek/East Pittsburgh.
I don't think any University should be required to pay for an insurance policy for a kid not to go to the NFL. The way the rules are now, the kid can leave early, and still come back and get his degree for free. If the kid wants to have an insurance policy, I don't think it's unreasonable for him to pay for it himself. Now, if the school is really leaning on the kid not to go and he really wants to go, I suppose that is a different story.
If/when Sanders goes, I wouldn't count out CJ Holmes as eventually becoming the lead back in 2019. ND transfer, former 4* recruit, he's looked very good on the Scout team.
C.J. Holmes | Running Back
Team: Penn State Nittany Lions
Ht / Wt: 6'0" / 202
Holmes ranked as Rivals' No. 203 overall prospect in the 2017 class and there should be plenty of talent remaining to mine
C.J. Holmes | Running Back
Team: Penn State Nittany Lions
Ht / Wt: 6'0" / 202
Holmes ranked as Rivals' No. 203 overall prospect in the 2017 class and there should be plenty of talent remaining to mine
you are correct, they are not required to pay for it, but they are allowed to pay for it per NCAA rules. Why anyone would leave early for money makes no sense to me, or to the guys in the pros. The pros want them to stay in the game, and become more of a finished product, and most likely make more money in the long run.
Here is more on that from the NCAA website: http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/insurance/student-athlete-insurance-programs
I think this is worth a read (and thus a re post) from Phil Savage....(May 2018)
While the annual National Football League Selection Meeting proved to be another rousing success with regard to the setting, television viewership and the attention received across the country, there was one segment of the prospect population that suffered through a long, frustrating three days.
Back in January, 106 underclassmen officially declared for this year’s draft. After seven rounds, 70 of those players were selected, but only 41 in the first three rounds (top 100 picks). Thirty-six of these prospects were not selected at all and went into the undrafted free agent pool. I call this group the “Lost Round” because those 36 prospects essentially represent an entire “round” in the draft and it is my belief that if they had returned to college for one more season, they would have had a chance to improve their draft stock, gotten closer to their respective degrees or even graduated and then advanced into a Master’s program.
For that matter, I am convinced that the 65 players who found themselves outside of those top three rounds, all could have helped themselves by returning to college for one more season.
Some will argue that the goal of reaching a second contract outweighs the reasons for staying in school. Well, the player has to secure that first contract and perform at a level needed to deserve an extension before that kind of thinking actually becomes a reality. And the reality is that if a prospect is selected in the first three rounds, his chances are greatly improved in making an NFL roster and actually getting paid vs. the prospect who is a 4th round or later draft choice who will have a number of obstacles in front of him in solidifying his spot on a team.
In my opinion, earlier education and open communication regarding the financial realities of this situation as well as the different insurance options that are available through the universities is not only a must for players and their families, but should be required by every Power Five program in the country. There are a number of schools doing remarkable work in these areas, however, most are not and, if you wait until the spring of a prospect’s junior year, it really is too late because the player and his family are already under siege from all sorts of outside influences, some who really know what they are talking about and others who simply have no clue.
Prior to 2012, the early entry list never topped 60 total prospects. In the last three drafts alone, 297 players have declared and that’s an average of 99 per year, just a staggering trend for college football and a number that the NFL is concerned about as well. In order to stop this epidemic that has had and will continue to have a negative impact on the college game, professional football and the players themselves, it is time for the leadership of USA Football, the NCAA, the NFL and the NFL Players’ Association to join forces and collaborate on an answer to this very complex and complicated issue. As someone who has seen the game from virtually every angle over the last 30 years, I would love to be part of the conversation that leads to a much-needed, long-term solution for this “Lost Round” of prospects and their families.
While the annual National Football League Selection Meeting proved to be another rousing success with regard to the setting, television viewership and the attention received across the country, there was one segment of the prospect population that suffered through a long, frustrating three days.
Back in January, 106 underclassmen officially declared for this year’s draft. After seven rounds, 70 of those players were selected, but only 41 in the first three rounds (top 100 picks). Thirty-six of these prospects were not selected at all and went into the undrafted free agent pool. I call this group the “Lost Round” because those 36 prospects essentially represent an entire “round” in the draft and it is my belief that if they had returned to college for one more season, they would have had a chance to improve their draft stock, gotten closer to their respective degrees or even graduated and then advanced into a Master’s program.
For that matter, I am convinced that the 65 players who found themselves outside of those top three rounds, all could have helped themselves by returning to college for one more season.
Some will argue that the goal of reaching a second contract outweighs the reasons for staying in school. Well, the player has to secure that first contract and perform at a level needed to deserve an extension before that kind of thinking actually becomes a reality. And the reality is that if a prospect is selected in the first three rounds, his chances are greatly improved in making an NFL roster and actually getting paid vs. the prospect who is a 4th round or later draft choice who will have a number of obstacles in front of him in solidifying his spot on a team.
In my opinion, earlier education and open communication regarding the financial realities of this situation as well as the different insurance options that are available through the universities is not only a must for players and their families, but should be required by every Power Five program in the country. There are a number of schools doing remarkable work in these areas, however, most are not and, if you wait until the spring of a prospect’s junior year, it really is too late because the player and his family are already under siege from all sorts of outside influences, some who really know what they are talking about and others who simply have no clue.
Prior to 2012, the early entry list never topped 60 total prospects. In the last three drafts alone, 297 players have declared and that’s an average of 99 per year, just a staggering trend for college football and a number that the NFL is concerned about as well. In order to stop this epidemic that has had and will continue to have a negative impact on the college game, professional football and the players themselves, it is time for the leadership of USA Football, the NCAA, the NFL and the NFL Players’ Association to join forces and collaborate on an answer to this very complex and complicated issue. As someone who has seen the game from virtually every angle over the last 30 years, I would love to be part of the conversation that leads to a much-needed, long-term solution for this “Lost Round” of prospects and their families.
Would like to see Miles dominate for a year and put away any concerns about ball security, but can't blame him either way. We are extremely fortunate to have added Noah Cain with Devyn Ford.
I think Miles will be a 3rd round steal. There’s a ton of upside to him as long as improves his ball security, has a lot of tread on his tires from not carrying a large workload in college ball
He’s going to do a whole lot better than people here give him credit for. He was the best player on the team for large stretches of 2018, and easily the best player on offense. If Miles Sanders played for a team other than Penn State, I think a lot more posters here would see him as the no-brainer early entry guy that he is.
^^^This^^^
It’s the kid’s right to decide when to cash in his chips. Even being a 3rd-4th-5th round pick can lead to life changing money for a kid from his background. He absolutely deserves to make the call based on what’s in his/the family’s best interests.
Like somebody who posted earlier in this thread, selfishly I would like to see him play another year at PSU.
With that out of the way, Miles Sanders has impressed me very much this season. On the field, he has impressive skills. Rushing, receiving and pass blocking - he does extremely well. Yes, he has had fumbling "issues", but I think (just a feel, no numbers to back this up) that he has worked on this and has improved - especially when looking at turnivers/carry ratio.
What I am most impressed with about Miles Sanders is his ability to communicate with the media. When interviewed, this young man speaks well and has been a great representative of the school. He's very mature.
Miles, you do what you need to do. This is one old grad who is very happy that you travelled that 130 miles east to grow.
With that out of the way, Miles Sanders has impressed me very much this season. On the field, he has impressive skills. Rushing, receiving and pass blocking - he does extremely well. Yes, he has had fumbling "issues", but I think (just a feel, no numbers to back this up) that he has worked on this and has improved - especially when looking at turnivers/carry ratio.
What I am most impressed with about Miles Sanders is his ability to communicate with the media. When interviewed, this young man speaks well and has been a great representative of the school. He's very mature.
Miles, you do what you need to do. This is one old grad who is very happy that you travelled that 130 miles east to grow.
No doubt. With those numbers, his strong inside running style, and - when given the chance- his pass catching ability, he'll be just fine.
I agree. I’m not sure where all the folks who question his speed are coming from - I think he’s a low 4.5 guy at the combine, and could even break high 4.4s. He worked his way into being the best running back in the country coming out of high school largely because of his speed and quickness.
He doesn't have breakway speed like Saquon did. Or a Christian McCaffrey. Not really fair to set that as the goal for a back but he definitely is someone that gets caught from behind. I do think he's probably a low 4.5/high 4.4 guy which is plenty fast enough to succeed.
Honestly, his receiving skills (or lack there of) are what worry me the most about him at the next level. That should be his focus leading up to the draft. He needs to flash at the combine in those drills to lock himself into a second day pick.
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