So, does the Michele Carter (texting/suicide) conviction spell doom for Penn States Beta Theta Pi???

[Mack_Daddy]

She was just found guilty of involuntary manslaughter basically for NOT calling anyone and not telling her boyfriend to get out of the car.

Sure, I am comparing apples to oranges. Nonetheless, Beta Theta Pi didn't call and for 40 minutes that morning they were (at least on the surface from what I read) MORE concerned about covering their tracks than calling 911.

I have a bad feeling that these Beta Theta Pi kids are going to be found guilty.

Their only defense, IMO, is if their lawyers can successfully show how difficult it is to distinguish between someone "sh1tfaced" and someone with a head injury. I know, at age 20, I would not have been able to distinguish between the two.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/us/michelle-carter-texting-case/index.html

 

[ritaith]

well, a mass case has no relevance legally with this case, but i agree there are some similarities. a jury will almost certainly be used in PA...

 

[scpsu76]

She was just found guilty of involuntary manslaughter basically for NOT calling anyone and not telling her boyfriend to get out of the car.

Sure, I am comparing apples to oranges. Nonetheless, Beta Theta Pi didn't call and for 40 minutes that morning they were (at least on the surface from what I read) MORE concerned about covering their tracks than calling 911.

I have a bad feeling that these Beta Theta Pi kids are going to be found guilty.

Their only defense, IMO, is if their lawyers can successfully show how difficult it is to distinguish between someone "sh1tfaced" and someone with a head injury. I know, at age 20, I would not have been able to distinguish between the two.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/us/michelle-carter-texting-case/index.html

I hate to be the one to tell you this but in PA they had no duty to call for help. They are being prosecuted for their negligence in causing/contributing to his intoxication which led to his injury and death.

 

[gogolion]

I haven't followed the Mass. case closely, but as I recall from the initial news reports, which included text message transcripts, she didn't simply "not call for help". She encouraged him to do it. He got scared and texted her, expressing his doubts, and she more or less told him "you can do it, don't be scared" (I'm paraphrasing). Much different than simply not calling for help.

 

[PSU_Nut]

She was just found guilty of involuntary manslaughter basically for NOT calling anyone and not telling her boyfriend to get out of the car.

Sure, I am comparing apples to oranges. Nonetheless, Beta Theta Pi didn't call and for 40 minutes that morning they were (at least on the surface from what I read) MORE concerned about covering their tracks than calling 911.

I have a bad feeling that these Beta Theta Pi kids are going to be found guilty.

Their only defense, IMO, is if their lawyers can successfully show how difficult it is to distinguish between someone "sh1tfaced" and someone with a head injury. I know, at age 20, I would not have been able to distinguish between the two.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/us/michelle-carter-texting-case/index.html

Their negligence goes fa beyond not calling. Even if they had called immediately hey cold still be tried. Any illegal act that ends in death can be involuntary manslaughter in PA. In the Beta case they provided alcohol to a minor which is a crime and hazing which is also a crime in pa weather or not he did it voluntarily.

 

[redbyrds]

Most people accept the fact that this was an overcharging as is usually done in todays world. Most of the 18 will not get convicted of anything or anything serious. There will be a few officers who were in charge and orchestrated the event and cover-up that should be shitting a few bricks at this point and rightly so.

 

[83wuzme]

I haven't followed the Mass. case closely, but as I recall from the initial news reports, which included text message transcripts, she didn't simply "not call for help". She encouraged him to do it. He got scared and texted her, expressing his doubts, and she more or less told him "you can do it, don't be scared" (I'm paraphrasing). Much different than simply not calling for help.

The victim was at a KMart parking lot on a Friday using his car to generate carbon monoxide in a closed environment. He got scared and got out of the vehicle as he was feeling the effects. She texted him to get himself back in the vehicle. Unfortunately, he followed her instructions.
The guy was mentally ill, but the accused from everything I have heard, displayed a lot of callous cruelty with him. I think the mental illness was a game changer in this case. After hearing what I heard with respect to her texts, all I can say is that I think this woman needs to be isolated from society.